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?I8 RECORDS OF THE FEDERAL CONVENTION Friday MADISON August ?7 ay.N- C. divd. S. C. ay. Geo. ay. [Ayes--S; noes--3; divided- 2.] so agreed to-- Mr. (Madison) and Mr. Dickenson moved (to insert as explanatory,) after "State" -- ? against the Government there- of" There might be a rebellion agst the U- States. -- (which was) Agreed to nero- con. On the clause as amended N.H. ay. Mss-* abst. Ct ay. Pen. abst. Del. no. Md. no. Va. ay. N- C. no. S.C. no- Georg. ay -- (so it was} lost [Ayes -- 4; noes -- 4; absent -- 2.] "To 7 make war" Mr Pinkne 7 opposed the vesting this power in the Legis- lature. s Its proceedings were too slow. It wd. meet but once a year. The Hs. of Reps. would be too numerous for such deliberations. The Senate would be the best depositary, being more acquainted with foreign affairs, and most capable of proper resolutions. If the States are equally represented in Senate, so as to give no advantage to large States, the power will notwithstanding be safe, as the small have their all at stake in such cases as well as the large States. It would be singular for one-- authority to make war, and another peace. Mr Butler. The Objections agst the Legislature lie in a great degree agst the Senate. He was for vesting the power in the President, who will have all the requisite qualities, and will not make war but when the Nation will support it. Mr. M(adison) and Mr Gerry moved to insert "declare," striking out "make" war; leaving to the Executive the power to repel sudden attacks. Mr Sharman thought it stood very well. The Executive shd. be able to repel and not to commence war. "Make" better than ?'declare" the latter narrowing the power too much. Mr Gerry never expected to hear in a republic a motion to empower the Executive alone to declare war.

  • (In the printed Journal Mss. no)
  • Crossed out "Mr. Dickenson moved". A considerable.blank space was left

apparently for the insertion of the motion and the action upon it. This may have been Vote 3 x2, Detail of Ayes and Noes? see the Journal above. s See Appendix A, CCCXXVI.