Talk:U.S. Department of the Army No Gun Ri Review Report

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Page numbers after p.40 appear to be incorrect[edit]

It appears that there is a large jump in page number from the end of Chapter 2 to the beginning of Chapter 3. End notes to Chapter 2 begin on page 38, and continue through page 40. Page 40 appears to contain more content than previous pages (2-3 pages worth), as if page numbering had stopped. There are no new page numbers until the first page of Chapter 3, which is labelled page 72. The final endnote to Chapter 2 is endnote 72.

I'm guessing that whoever or whatever was numbering pages saw endnote 72 as page 72 and continued page numbers from there (which would make the first page of chapter 3 p.73, which doesn't quite fit). It is also possible that the 49 endnotes on page 40 span 30+ pages, perhaps due to photographs that are not displayed in this online version, in which case the page numbering would be correct, but that seems less likely. --Wikimedes (talk) 17:16, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Good catch. Looking at the printed copy, Chapter 2's endnotes end at page 44, and pages 45-71 are taken up with photos. Those photos were not in the digital copy used to create this Wikisource copy. I'll make a note to insert an explainer line plus missing page numbers among those endnotes. FYI, creation of this item on Wikisource was necessitated by the fact that the U.S. Defense Department took down its online NGR Review report soon after publication of the 2010 Critical Asian Studies article that detailed, citing page numbers etc., the serious irregularities in that report. That original online report was the source for this one. Besides photos, it also is missing an annex of fold-out maps from the printed version, including a map of U.S. air missions that allowed one to see and show how the Army investigators "erased" air attacks on the No Gun Ri area that occurred on the first day of the killings and thereafter. Further re photos: The AP journalists had very good reason to believe photos of the NGR carnage existed, but were seized and destroyed or otherwise secreted away by the Army in 2000-2001. Cjhanley (talk) 17:56, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation and for adding the information.--Wikimedes (talk) 15:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Incidentally, I've found the archived version online (Wayback machine). The PDF report is only available in 13 parts. I'm not certain as to whether they can legally be attached here, or whether to add the downloadable versions to the "External links" on the article page only. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:47, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Excellent. This is a U.S. government report and therefore in the public domain, reproducible wherever you'd like. I see now that it does include the photos and the final annex of maps. I realize now that when I copied it over to my files long ago (and subsequently to Wikisource), the text left the "art" behind. Very helpful. Thank you. Cjhanley (talk) 11:55, 6 August 2015 (UTC)