Index talk:The varieties of religious experience, a study in human nature.djvu

Formatting

Suggestions:

• Use {{fs90}} for smaller text (quotations) — {{fs90/s}}, {{fs90/e}} where necessary.

[from Scriptorium] If you want everything between {{fs90/s}} & {{fs90/e}} to render as paragraphs, the start and end templates must exist before and after the block of text on their own lines (not up against the begining and end of the first or last sentences/lines). If you don't want the last line of a paragraph split over 2 pages to become a new paragraph, insert an extra blank line in the footer before the dummy end tag (quirk in Page: namespace only). -- George Orwell III (talk) 01:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

• Use {{smallrefs}} in footer

I have added {{fs90/s}}+{{fs90/e}} to the edittools box, near {{smallrefs}}. --Zyephyrus (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk

3-page-ref

[mental note: 3-page-spanning refs instances: pp. 10-12, 389-391, 492-494, 495-497 (all fixed)]

This reference which spans 3 pages (pp. 10-12) renders correctly in the Main (rendering paragraph breaks). I'm pretty sure I copied all the formatting idiosyncrasies to a 'T', yet paragraph breaks are not rendered in the Main for another instance of a 3-page reference (pp. 389-391). What am I missing? Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Look, this work exposes how limited the "simplified" wikicode actually is compared to straight HTML (i.e. a page with a paragraph that has a quote in a sub-paragraph which has a ref spanning 3 or more pages.)

If you want extra paragraphs beyond the first paragraph in any ref to act like a paragraph - stop worrying about the stupid wikicode and go with straight HTML - just wrap the paragraphs in <p> </p> tags!!!!

Also, why is it that on ref p3, the ref follow page number ('p11') is not within quotation marks (as it is on ref p2)? I know that doing so would cause that block of text to not render in the Main, but what is it about leaving the quotation marks off that causes it to render?

Beats me. In the normal world anything preceded by an equal sign need to be wrapped by quotes and thats the way I operate. Just because the Wikicode is designed to make things easier for newbies and such doesn't make it right.

What would you do in the case of a 4-pg-spanning reference? Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:26, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Shoot the editor square in the forehead, asap. -- George Orwell III (talk) 15:35, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Not an option. Improvisation (with respect to [unconventional] formatting,—i.e., 'fudging it') would be a better alternative :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:14, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like you still have it slightly backwards. Wikicode fudges HTML in the hope doing so will make editig easier for the newcomer. It usually does... but as is the case with most shortcuts - it usually comes at the expense of something else.

FWIW.... I really don't know how to handle a 4 page ref but I assume its no different than a 3 page ref. You also know what they say about the word 'ass u me'. -- George Orwell III (talk) 16:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I am very much aware of 'what they say'... My husband and I frequently make ass u m[e]ptions with respect to one another. With respect to fudging it, I wasn't trying to be technical, but in this case, your assumption proved enlightening. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Your Welcome. Its satisfying enough just to know something my brain farted out has helped further your efforts. :) -- George Orwell III (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

I wish my brain worked more the way y'all's does, but I'm learning to live with it. My 'brain farts' are not usually so productive ;) Takes all kinds to further efforts here, I guess... (chit-chat over) Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:21, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

paragraph breaks in refs not rendering

Solution: Wrap paragraphs in <p> </p> tags. (GO3's recommendation)

ellipses

Which one?

• … (&hellip)
• . . .
• ...

from WP: "The most common form of an ellipsis is a row of three periods or full stops (. . .) or a pre-composed triple-dot glyph (…)... The Chicago Manual of Style recommends that an ellipsis be formed by typing three periods, each with a space on both sides."

Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:02, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and 'decided' to use the 'hellip' option, and applied it to the text where other methods were used. Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:45, 18 December 2012 (UTC)