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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 12:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

PSM Volume 17[edit]

Many thanks for your help in cleaning up this and the previous volumes.— Ineuw talk

Your common.js[edit]

Hello Mpaa

I happened to spot your recent edit. Please review this and act (or not) accordingly, but are you sure this line:

        regexToolWithShortcut('lower [u]','upper()', 'l');

—should not in fact read:

        regexToolWithShortcut('lower [u]','lower()', 'l');


Just looked a little strange to me. AuFCL (talk) 11:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Yepp, thanks--Mpaa (talk) 12:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Author:Multiple Editors[edit]

Hi Mpaa, is this author page useful? Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Third Orders lists editors individually and, as you can see from page history, it has never linked to that author page.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Must have been created by mistake. It can safely be deleted. Thanks for pointing out.--Mpaa (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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billinghurst sDrewth 16:02, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for help on Creole Sketches![edit]

Hi, as you may or may not have noticed, Creole Sketches is my first wikisource project, so I'm learning on the job, and any help and advice is welcome. My understanding of where it's at: it looks to me like pages 88-89, 106, and 168-9 are missing from the deja-vu file I imported from the Internet archive. In addition pp. 38-39 and 16-17 are scanned twice in the source file. If you can point me at the procedure for fixing errors in the underlying source file that would be appreciated, in particular for how to insert the missing pages (I think someone has modified the page index file to fix the duplicates problems). Any other advice about learning as I go is of course appreciated. Also, if this kind of help isn't your kind of thing, just let me know. Thanks, Dictioneer (talk) 03:02, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi. You need to highlight the errors present in the pagination of the djvu file (in the Index page is a good place). And look for a replacement of missing pages from a scan of the same edition (possibly). Then, you need to ask in Scriptorium/Help for someone to fix the underlying djvu file for you. If we do not fix/swap the djvu, there is not much we can do.--Mpaa (talk) 11:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice on fixing the index, and from what I can tell from the index page, thanks for doing some of it too! Your summary of the errors is close to mine, however I note that you shift between numbering schemes in specifying duplicate pages (djvu file names) versus missing pages (page number from the book). To clarify, I believe page 107 from the book is missing from the djvu file, as are book pages 88-89 and 168-169. Since I think one has to redo the whole numbering scheme when you insert / delete pages, I just wanted to make sure we agree that I'm tracking down the right page images from the book to insert into the file.
Another user, ShakespeareFan00, put me on the trail of the djvulibre tools, and it looks like I can run a script that will (attempt to) convert a jpg image into a djvu page. Once I've got those individual djvu files (107, 88-89, and 168-169), if I understand you correctly, at that point I go to the village scriptorium and ask for help in fixing the file itself. If you think I'm doing this in the right order, let me know, or warn me before I go creating unnecessary work for myself and innocent bystanders. In any case, thanks for what you've already done, I greatly appreciate it. Dictioneer (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
OK, you are one step ahead. If you will use djvulibre, you can use it to delete duplicate pages and insert new pages in the djvu file. At that point, no need to ask for extra help, you can reupload to Commons the new djvu file version.
Note that Pages/xx can be moved, so you will not lose work already done. You need to tell me what will change from the old numbering to the new.
Example: assume that you will delete Page/48 and Page/49 -> Page/50 and following will have to be moved down by 2.
Example (fake): assume that you will insert 2 before Page/90 -> Page/90 and following will have to be moved up by 2.
But you are performing several changes at the same time, insertion and deletion, you need to be careful and tell me the net effect on a given range, as it might be that in the end one page is not moved at all. In my example: Page/50 to Page/89 will be moved down by 2 becoming Page/48 ... Page/87, 2 new pages will be inserted as Page/88 and Page /89, and Page/90 will stay as it is now.
All I need is: range [x:y] to be moved +/- N pages.
A bit complex, hope I explained myself clearly enough ... but easier done than said :-)--Mpaa (talk) 20:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
All right, I think we are ready to go. I have created a new djvu file using the utilities, deleting the duplicated pages 16-17 (book numbering) and 38-39 (book) in the original file, and inserting missing pages 88-89, 107, and 168-169 (all book numbering). If I understand you correctly, you need to know the djvu file numbering, using the file numbers appearing for each indexed page. So, for example, the (first) page 16 points at djvu file number 46, 17 at 47; then the second index page 16 points at file number 48, second 17 points at file number 49 -- these two files (48 & 49) are what need to be deleted and replaced with the renumbered file names.
Assuming the above assumption is correct, here goes: djvu file pages 1-47 are unchanged, 48-49 are deleted, and range [50:71] are moved -2 pages; next, pages 72-73 are deleted, and file range [74:121] are moved -4 pages. Then, insert two pages after (new) 117, so that range [122:138] is moved -2 pages. Now, insert a page after (new) 136, and range [139:198] is moved -1 page. Finally, insert two pages after (new) 197, and range [198:230] is moved +1 page. Now, buy yourself a drink, you deserve it!
Assuming the above makes sense, a chicken / egg question: do I upload the revised djvu file to Commons before or after you make these changes? I will upload the corrected file whenever you specify. I hope I've understood your instructions correctly, and thanks for your help on this. Dictioneer (talk) 21:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Before. So I can check that my moves are consistent with the new file. Bye--Mpaa (talk) 22:59, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, it's uploaded to Commons. Let me know if you need anything else or find a problem. Thanks, Dictioneer (talk) 00:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Done. One thing.Next time, if available, do not forget the text layer in the djvu file. Now they are empty. So you need to copy&paste from somewhere (the text of the scan from where you toook the pages should have them) or type the manually. Bye--Mpaa (talk) 09:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Great, the new file syncs up perfectly! ShakespeareFan00 was kind enough to type in the missing text on the inserted pages, so I believe I'm getting quite a way along to getting this book ready for... well, whatever happens next! :) Thanks for helping a newbie, I would have been stuck without you. Dictioneer (talk) 19:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Welcome. BTW, mark your ages as Proofread once done. See what ShakFan and myself have done, esp. on headings, etc.Bye--Mpaa (talk) 20:42, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

A list request - if possible[edit]

Would it be possible to get a list of the last date when these works were last proofread/validated? I am cleaning up the list, and would like to append the YYYY-MM of the these dates. Perhaps this would help move the works. There may be some works that have been validated, two were found already and moved off the list. Please ignore the PSM volumes. They are being proofread (mostly) in volume order. — Ineuw talk 20:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


Is it possible to set up archiving on this for completed requests? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:47, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

No, archive is based on timestamp only. It can't differentiate on anything else. If something stays unanswered for long, it will be archived anyhow.--Mpaa (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
That's fine, Next question, can archiving be set up for this page?ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, copy the template from top of this page and adjust settings as needed.--Mpaa (talk) 07:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Done, I think.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Index:Hillsborough Taylor Interim Report Cm765.pdf[edit]

Can I ask you to do one of two things ? (i) do some legwork to find-out the (C) status of the included images (marked as problematic)

(ii) Redact the scans of the relevant pages

I've marked the relevant pages as problematic.


BTW The following may contain other material that could help trace the status :

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I am no expert in (c) status. If you have questions, post them at Wikisource:Copyright violations.
Regarding images, I do not have the right tools installed on my current laptop. Post a request at Scriptorium/Help.--Mpaa (talk) 22:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)