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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 12:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)


PSM Volume 17[edit]

Many thanks for your help in cleaning up this and the previous volumes.— Ineuw talk

Hi, I've just finished proofreading Volume 25. So much easier with your clean-up, compared to Volume 24. Is there any chance you could do your wizardry on further volumes? Cheers, Zoeannl (talk) 11:47, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, happy to know it was useful. I'll try. Not in the short term though.--Mpaa (talk) 14:27, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
BTW, Vol 28 is cleaned up already, if you are interested.--Mpaa (talk) 19:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
And Vol 29 on its way.--Mpaa (talk) 21:08, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Your common.js[edit]

Hello Mpaa

I happened to spot your recent edit. Please review this and act (or not) accordingly, but are you sure this line:

        regexToolWithShortcut('lower [u]','upper()', 'l');

—should not in fact read:

        regexToolWithShortcut('lower [u]','lower()', 'l');

—?

Just looked a little strange to me. AuFCL (talk) 11:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Yepp, thanks--Mpaa (talk) 12:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Author:Multiple Editors[edit]

Hi Mpaa, is this author page useful? Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Third Orders lists editors individually and, as you can see from page history, it has never linked to that author page.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 14:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Must have been created by mistake. It can safely be deleted. Thanks for pointing out.--Mpaa (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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billinghurst sDrewth 16:02, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for help on Creole Sketches![edit]

Hi, as you may or may not have noticed, Creole Sketches is my first wikisource project, so I'm learning on the job, and any help and advice is welcome. My understanding of where it's at: it looks to me like pages 88-89, 106, and 168-9 are missing from the deja-vu file I imported from the Internet archive. In addition pp. 38-39 and 16-17 are scanned twice in the source file. If you can point me at the procedure for fixing errors in the underlying source file that would be appreciated, in particular for how to insert the missing pages (I think someone has modified the page index file to fix the duplicates problems). Any other advice about learning as I go is of course appreciated. Also, if this kind of help isn't your kind of thing, just let me know. Thanks, Dictioneer (talk) 03:02, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi. You need to highlight the errors present in the pagination of the djvu file (in the Index page is a good place). And look for a replacement of missing pages from a scan of the same edition (possibly). Then, you need to ask in Scriptorium/Help for someone to fix the underlying djvu file for you. If we do not fix/swap the djvu, there is not much we can do.--Mpaa (talk) 11:54, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice on fixing the index, and from what I can tell from the index page, thanks for doing some of it too! Your summary of the errors is close to mine, however I note that you shift between numbering schemes in specifying duplicate pages (djvu file names) versus missing pages (page number from the book). To clarify, I believe page 107 from the book is missing from the djvu file, as are book pages 88-89 and 168-169. Since I think one has to redo the whole numbering scheme when you insert / delete pages, I just wanted to make sure we agree that I'm tracking down the right page images from the book to insert into the file.
Another user, ShakespeareFan00, put me on the trail of the djvulibre tools, and it looks like I can run a script that will (attempt to) convert a jpg image into a djvu page. Once I've got those individual djvu files (107, 88-89, and 168-169), if I understand you correctly, at that point I go to the village scriptorium and ask for help in fixing the file itself. If you think I'm doing this in the right order, let me know, or warn me before I go creating unnecessary work for myself and innocent bystanders. In any case, thanks for what you've already done, I greatly appreciate it. Dictioneer (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
OK, you are one step ahead. If you will use djvulibre, you can use it to delete duplicate pages and insert new pages in the djvu file. At that point, no need to ask for extra help, you can reupload to Commons the new djvu file version.
Note that Pages/xx can be moved, so you will not lose work already done. You need to tell me what will change from the old numbering to the new.
Example: assume that you will delete Page/48 and Page/49 -> Page/50 and following will have to be moved down by 2.
Example (fake): assume that you will insert 2 before Page/90 -> Page/90 and following will have to be moved up by 2.
But you are performing several changes at the same time, insertion and deletion, you need to be careful and tell me the net effect on a given range, as it might be that in the end one page is not moved at all. In my example: Page/50 to Page/89 will be moved down by 2 becoming Page/48 ... Page/87, 2 new pages will be inserted as Page/88 and Page /89, and Page/90 will stay as it is now.
All I need is: range [x:y] to be moved +/- N pages.
A bit complex, hope I explained myself clearly enough ... but easier done than said :-)--Mpaa (talk) 20:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
All right, I think we are ready to go. I have created a new djvu file using the utilities, deleting the duplicated pages 16-17 (book numbering) and 38-39 (book) in the original file, and inserting missing pages 88-89, 107, and 168-169 (all book numbering). If I understand you correctly, you need to know the djvu file numbering, using the file numbers appearing for each indexed page. So, for example, the (first) page 16 points at djvu file number 46, 17 at 47; then the second index page 16 points at file number 48, second 17 points at file number 49 -- these two files (48 & 49) are what need to be deleted and replaced with the renumbered file names.
Assuming the above assumption is correct, here goes: djvu file pages 1-47 are unchanged, 48-49 are deleted, and range [50:71] are moved -2 pages; next, pages 72-73 are deleted, and file range [74:121] are moved -4 pages. Then, insert two pages after (new) 117, so that range [122:138] is moved -2 pages. Now, insert a page after (new) 136, and range [139:198] is moved -1 page. Finally, insert two pages after (new) 197, and range [198:230] is moved +1 page. Now, buy yourself a drink, you deserve it!
Assuming the above makes sense, a chicken / egg question: do I upload the revised djvu file to Commons before or after you make these changes? I will upload the corrected file whenever you specify. I hope I've understood your instructions correctly, and thanks for your help on this. Dictioneer (talk) 21:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Before. So I can check that my moves are consistent with the new file. Bye--Mpaa (talk) 22:59, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, it's uploaded to Commons. Let me know if you need anything else or find a problem. Thanks, Dictioneer (talk) 00:04, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Done. One thing.Next time, if available, do not forget the text layer in the djvu file. Now they are empty. So you need to copy&paste from somewhere (the text of the scan from where you toook the pages should have them) or type the manually. Bye--Mpaa (talk) 09:59, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Great, the new file syncs up perfectly! ShakespeareFan00 was kind enough to type in the missing text on the inserted pages, so I believe I'm getting quite a way along to getting this book ready for... well, whatever happens next! :) Thanks for helping a newbie, I would have been stuck without you. Dictioneer (talk) 19:05, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Welcome. BTW, mark your ages as Proofread once done. See what ShakFan and myself have done, esp. on headings, etc.Bye--Mpaa (talk) 20:42, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

A list request - if possible[edit]

Would it be possible to get a list of the last date when these works were last proofread/validated? I am cleaning up the list, and would like to append the YYYY-MM of the these dates. Perhaps this would help move the works. There may be some works that have been validated, two were found already and moved off the list. Please ignore the PSM volumes. They are being proofread (mostly) in volume order. — Ineuw talk 20:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Wikisource:Scriptorium/Rebinding[edit]

Is it possible to set up archiving on this for completed requests? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:47, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

No, archive is based on timestamp only. It can't differentiate on anything else. If something stays unanswered for long, it will be archived anyhow.--Mpaa (talk) 22:48, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
That's fine, Next question, can archiving be set up for this page?ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:26, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, copy the template from top of this page and adjust settings as needed.--Mpaa (talk) 07:36, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Done, I think.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:11, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Index:Hillsborough Taylor Interim Report Cm765.pdf[edit]

Can I ask you to do one of two things ? (i) do some legwork to find-out the (C) status of the included images (marked as problematic)

(ii) Redact the scans of the relevant pages

I've marked the relevant pages as problematic.

Thanks.

BTW The following may contain other material that could help trace the status : http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I am no expert in (c) status. If you have questions, post them at Wikisource:Copyright violations.
Regarding images, I do not have the right tools installed on my current laptop. Post a request at Scriptorium/Help.--Mpaa (talk) 22:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Index:Hutton, William Holden - Hampton Court (1897).djvu[edit]

Hi, can I leave the contents page and book "index" of this work with you?

I should have the text of the mian work finsihed over the weekend and then need to move to other projects.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi ShakespeareFan00. No I will not take it. If you do not want to finish, leave it there, hoping that someone will pick it sooner or later.--Mpaa (talk) 08:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Need some guidance[edit]

I've spotted you making some gerrit patches for .py stuff and was wondering if you might be able to steer me in the right direction.


Long story short - All I'd like do to "help" move things along is create a "patch" that inserts this single line...

                                                        'filters': [ 'body:not(.ns-0)' ],

... between Lines #186 & #187 of THIS .js file.


I've been studying the Gerrit-Patch-Uploader and find myself second guessing what at first appeared to be rather straight forward. Is it really nothing more than downloading & modifying the .js file in question and then just a matter of pointing to the revised local version for upload? How does "it" know which file in the extension's folders & file paths I'm trying to amend?

Any advice you might have is greatly appreciated either way. -- George Orwell III (talk) 21:52, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I have never used it, I use another workflow with git. I think you need to identify in which "project" the file you want to modify is in. You do not have to upload the new file but a "patch" in one of the specified formats, where basically it is defined which lines of the old version are replaced and with which new lines. See [1] here an example of a "diff -u" command.--Mpaa (talk) 15:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
This is an example of what you will see in the review tool [2]. You will have to respond in this forum to reviewers' comments and upload new revisions, if needed.--Mpaa (talk) 15:36, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Retitled works[edit]

Did some followups to some requested moves , by making requests at Commons. Nothing broke this end, but it would be nice to complete the Wikisource side of the re-title process. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:45, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: I noticed that you are driven by some higher power to instruct others to make everything neat and tidy on all English language wikis (are you proficient in other languages?). I noticed that you did it on Wikipedia, by tagging a lot of images to be moved to the commons, a gallery which myself put to good use by moving some 19th century B&W images. Nevertheless, for the past weeks I was wondering, how come you don't do it yourself? After all, no one seems to be objecting to your efforts. Have you considered that we are occupied with own projects, and your unending stream of missives are somewhat annoying? Based on your past contributions, I am convinced that you are very capable to do the tasks by yourself. Finally I must ask, do you do windows? — Ineuw talk 15:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
In respect of re-titles, I posted here, because it was my understanding that Mpaa had access to a re-title script (which needed some permissions he has and I don't) which relocated pages as well as the index. My reasons for the requests on Scriptorium first was to give time for objections. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Also I as a normal contributor don't have deletion or AWB rights.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Only move (possibly w/o redirect) is needed. So in principle, everyone could do it. Even if automated it is much faster ...
Bot request is anyhow the right entry place for future requests. A larger crowd can take the task.--Mpaa (talk) 17:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, It isn't so much a bot request that was needed, but a script request, as I did want to possible review what it was intending to move, I.E a tool-assisted edit script would be better than a bot. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
I lost you ... You do not need an 'edit script', you just need a Move action on the Indexxxx.yyy: and Page:xxx.yyy/n.
Anyhow, if you are not more specific on what needs to be checked, I wouldn't know how to help you. You cannot expect me to track your work at Commons or here. Highlight somewhere at what stage all your requests are, and it will be easier for everyone to support.--Mpaa (talk) 18:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
That's why I was updating the Rebinding entries, but someone seemingly said the cleanup should just happen. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:13, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
I've now re-aligned all but 2 of the works whose files moved at Commons. (on one I had to also realign a transclusion which is something I noted would need to be done on the bot request I made.)
In respect of the "windows", please clarify on my talk page :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
In respect of remaining issues. Please refer to my talk page ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the redirect cleanups.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:38, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome. But do not expect any commitment on this task from me. Especially regarding the script you requested.--Mpaa (talk) 07:53, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm not expecting anything, I've added the script to my wish list in hope. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

MpaaBot[edit]

Question is there a way to tell MpaaBot to re-title a work that a normal user like myself could add to the index page? (This would save a lot of hassle longterm).ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:29, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure I got you. Do you mean run-time when you create an Index, to validate the name? If so, no. I guess some js script could though.--Mpaa (talk) 20:46, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I meant a tag like {{newindex|newname}} on the old Index which Mpaabot can look for and which tells the bot that the extant Page:'s for that index need to be relocated before the Index itself can be moved. (For example the page transfers done on the Treatise On a Steam Engine work.
I think I need to go read the API notes. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:51, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Some js to do a sanity-check for creating an Index on a file that doesn't exist would also be useful, but some index are created by manual page list construiction from jpg/tiff etc, so don't obviously have an associated file in that sense. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:42, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

TOC err[edit]

Hello, Mpaa. I noticed that the poems listed from Part I on Page:Love Songs.djvu/16 do not show up in the Mainspace. I was going to validate, but I'm not sure how to fix the problem. Thanks! Londonjackbooks (talk) 05:07, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Similar issue with Helen of Troy and Other Poems. Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:08, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Pasted on Help page as I cannot figure it out.--Mpaa (talk) 19:33, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Find out the fix (after many attempts ...). Thanks for pointing out.--Mpaa (talk) 20:20, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

The Tsar's Window Four Leaf Clover[edit]

Help:Adding images mentions Imagemagick, which could be used to get rid of the paper texture of the four leaf clover and the horseshoe that ate illustrations used in the No Name series novel The Tsar's Window. By the way, how good are you with images? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 12:27, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

I can do that single image for you, if you wish.— Ineuw talk 15:47, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes please. I need to reinstall tools as I changed PC.--Mpaa (talk) 21:33, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Hi. I did that and everything else on the volume, and placed it in the queue for validation. — Ineuw talk 21:39, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks.--Mpaa (talk) 18:34, 16 November 2014 (UTC)