Index talk:First Lessons in the Tie-chiw Dialect.pdf

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This book's romanization is full of weirdness. I don't feel like it's worth finishing the transcription TBH... (also the scan is terrible) Suzukaze-c (talk) 00:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Maybe there is a better scan somewhere? I appreciate how much you had done until you ran into the badly scanned pages. --Tar-ba-gan (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Also, there is hardly a good transcription system in use in most books at that time, while the dialects in question display very wide range of pronunciations. I mean, I heard older people saying that they speak Cantonese while it was phonetically very far-fetched from Cantonese and their more educated relative was calling it a different and "unofficial" dialect. While I cannot judge how bad the situation is with the book in question (I only know Mandarin and only to a limit), when I deal with old Romanization of Mandarin I just add template:tooltip where I can provide what I consider standard pinyin - I think it helps readers AND myself to make progress in the language. Tar-ba-gan (talk) 22:36, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

Color scan?

@Suzukaze-c: There is a color scan of this book available here. If you think it is a superior scan looking at it, and if you yourself are not able to download it, should I do so for you? (I've been downloading books for Hrishikes already, so I may as well help others out as much as I can.) Mahir256 (talk) 03:05, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

That is most definitely a superior scan 😲 Thank you for the heads up.

I have the ability to download PDFs from HathiTrust, but thank you for the gracious offer. Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:09, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

The page numbers are slightly different (the black-and-white scan has two less pages). I recall discussions about this sort of problem, but I don't recall any solutions in detail. Do you happen to remember what they are? Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: You can try omitting two blank pages with something like pdftk. This is how I omitted the HathiTrust preamble from their downloads when uploading to Commons. Mahir256 (talk) 03:27, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

@Mahir256: One of the two pages has content, and I would like to keep them (it is a title page; this book seems to have two of them, although admittedly they are nearly identical). I suppose the best solution would be manual page moves for the Page:s on Wikisource? Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:33, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c: That may well work. I leave the decision to you. Mahir256 (talk) 03:40, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

It appears the existing upload is a DJVU, so I suppose page moves are obligatory now 😅 Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:44, 19 September 2017 (UTC)