can't—if I said something else, you know, that's possible. If it was more detailed, but—but just on the record.
Q So just, it was your understanding at this time in January that Ms. Caroline Wren was part of the Trump campaign. Is that fair to say?
A What's fair to say is that Caroline Wren represented greater access to the decisionmakers in Trump world, in Trump world it could be the RNC, it could be the Trump campaign, it could be the joint fundraising committee, with any number of entities. And again, just out of the abundance of caution, because you know, I wasn't asked to volunteer my testimony. I'm here under subpoena. And I know you guys have got a job do. And I know that there's been some, you know, adversarial accusations about me, but you know I would love to nail it more down for you, but I think that's what I can give you.
Q So it was Ms. Wren who asked you to speak at the Ellipse on January 6th, to the best of your recollection?
A To the best of my recollection.
Q Okay. You mentioned that Ms. Wren worked with President Trump's son and Ms. Kimberly Guilfoyle. Can you please elaborate more on that working relationship for us?
A No. But if you have a specific question, I couldn't because I wasn't with them.
Q What did she represent to you. How was she working with the President's son and Ms. Kimberly Guilfoyle?
A Well, what's been widely recorded is that she works in a fundraising capacity officially with Kimberly Guilfoyle. And I think it was either RNC part-time and Trump campaign part-time or something like that, you know, consultants we're allowed to have
