a lot of hats. But, you know, you have like different guidance memos and firewalls. So if I represented anything more to you, I would be speculating. But—and then obviously, as I understand the President's son, you know, was at a lot of these events. I don't know that he was a contractor getting paid for his work. He's obviously a surrogate for his father.
Q Which son, just so we're clear?
A Donald Trump, Jr.
Q So I just want to make sure I'm understanding this correctly. You understood Ms. Wren's role with Ms. Kimberly Guilfoyle and Mr. Donald Trump, Jr. based upon public reporting. Is that true?
A We certainly had a conversation about it.
Q Okay.
A But I can't recall it 12 months later.
Q Got it.
A I'm sorry.
Q Oh, no worries. No worries at all.
So in your view, who was in charge of the January 6th event at the Ellipse? For example, was it Stop the Steal? Was it the White House? Was it Women for America First? Who was in charge of that event?
A Could you clarify what you mean by in charge?
Q Who was responsible for the decisionmaking of the January 6th event at the Ellipse?
A You know, I've done 15 years of political organizing, and I've been doing events since, I think, 2010, I think 2010. I did help the RNC in 2008, but—I don't want to be coy, but coalition-type events, the decision tree it really depends on what silo of the
