NUMBER 19 (See page 133)
TESTIMONY OF W. T. SCHEIDE
[Report of the Special Committee on Railroads, New York Assembly, 1879. Volume III, pages 2774-2777.]
Q. Why were you shipping over the Pennsylvania road and not over the Erie?
A. For the reason that the Pennsylvania was most eligibly situated for our purposes.
Q. How did you come, then, to ship over the Erie at all?
A . We came to ship over the Erie because of what we considered very bad treatment on the part of the Pennsylvania Railroad.
Q. What was that bad treatment that you received at the hands of the Pennsylvania road?
A. It consisted, principally, in a discrimination against us in furnishing us with cars.
Q. They refused you transportation?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Were they refusing you transportation in the interest of the combination?
A. In the interest of a peculiar idea that they had, that all shippers should be placed upon the same basis.
Q. And in consequence of that peculiar idea, they gave to other shippers transportation and did not give it to you
A. Yes, sir.
Q. And that was the practical way in which that corporation carried out that idea?
A. Yes, sir; you will allow me to explain, please?
Q. Yes; go on.
A. The oil business differs from other business in this, that it is a daily crop; there is a certain amount of oil produced that has to be shipped every day; the consumption, however, is not equal to the daily production of our trade; the consumption varies and the demand varies; the consequence is that there are seasons of the year when a man engaged in shipping oil ships oil really at a loss because there is no demand for it, and there are other seasons when there is a large profit; now the Pennsylvania Railroad
always insisted upon having a large number of shippers; this large number of shippers
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