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CommonsTicker: new version to fix some problems[edit]

Hello - sorry, the privious message was a bit broken. Below is a full repost. Sorry again -- CommonsTicker 14:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi - you may have noticed some problems with CommonsTicker lately - namely, some entries about deletions went missing, and some entries arrived several days late (messing up the date headings for ticker pages using append mode). This is caused by the massive replication lag we currently see on the toolserver (it's more than a day behind). While I hope this will not happen again in the future, I have been working on improving CommonsTicker so it handles out-of-sync entries gracefully.

I plan to activate a new version of CommonsTicker tonight or tomorrow - so look out for any new problems. Here are the most relevant changes:

  • fix handling of out-of-sync records (see above); added "latecomer" parameter to TickerEntry template (may be ignored)
  • deleted images can be restored now. To reflect this, I have added a "restored" action to CommonsTicker. To use it, you need to change your templates and/or CSS like this.
  • for pages in append-mode, there an empty "status" parameter is now handed to the TickerEntry template - this parameter can be set manually to trigger some type of marking or highliting, depending on how you set up your template and CSS. See here for an example that strikes out the entry if status is set to "done".

For the future, I'm planning to let CommonsTicker post warnings to the talk page of articles that use an image das is (about to be) deleted. I'll post another announcement when that feature is ready.

This message was posted automatically by the CommonsTicker bot. For feedback and discussion, please go to meta:User talk:Duesentrieb/CommonsTicker -- CommonsTicker 14:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

SoftRedirect tab[edit]

Hi, I wrote this for User:BirgitteSB a few weeks ago and forgot to let people know about it, and I noticed that you were doing soft redirects on Recent changes. I believe it works in Internet Explorer, but I've only tested it in Firefox. Basically, you insert it into User:Yourname/monobook.js, perform a hard refresh, etc, and it adds a tab which either a) converts an existing #REDIRECT Blah blah into {{subst:Dated soft redirect|Blah blah}}; or b), if a #REDIRECT isn't there, it prompts you for the page.

/* <nowiki><pre> */
addOnloadHook(function (){
	if(document.forms.editform) {
		var tabs = document.getElementById('p-cactions').getElementsByTagName('ul')[0];
		addlilink(tabs, 'javascript:softRedirect();', 'Soft redirect', 'ca-redirect');

function softRedirect(){
	var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
	var r = txt.value.replace(new RegExp("[\\S\\s]*#[Rr][Ee][Dd][Ii][Rr][Ee][Cc][Tt][_ ]?(\\[\\[[^\\]]*\\]\\])[\\S\\s]*|[\\s\\S]*", "g"), "$1");
	if (r==""){
		var r = "[["+prompt('What page should the redirect point to?')+"]]";
	txt.value = "{{subst:Dated soft redirect|"+r+"}}";
	var summary = document.editform.wpSummary;
	summary.value = "Converted to soft redirect";

/*** Add generic tab ***/
function addlilink(tabs, url, name, id){
	var na = document.createElement('a');
	na.href = url;
	var li = document.createElement('li'); = id;
	return li;
/* </pre></nowiki> */

:) Hope it helps! Jude (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

UK Acts[edit]

Thanks for the help on the Scriptorium - should I get and do those pages? I just wanted the go-ahead before creating lots of sub-pages, as I am new to wikisource. I intend to set it up on the basis that you agreed upon. Hacienda 14:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

I have made a start on the UK Acts at Wikisource:Legislative_documents/England and Wikisource:Legislative_documents/England/Henry_III - is this all OK? I have made an attempt at using the tables but they could be improved by a more experienced editor (like centering columns and proper sizing); also the four statutes I had put up prior to the discussions would need their names changing to the new versions (e.g. Stat. Merton - Attorneys in County Court Act 1235 to Attorneys in County Court Act 1235, found here) - I think that requires an administrator to do? Thanks for all your help on this, by the way. Hacienda 12:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Copyright also vests in the author and their assigns[edit]

Copyright also vests in the copyright holder themselves. I am the copyright holder as the caretaker of these gifted diaries. So the limitations do not apply in this sort of case. Any person can publish their own letters, and they can also publish the letters of their parents, if their parents are dead for example, or grant their own copyright. That is because the copy, right, descends just like property. In this case the copyright is in my hands. Wjhonson 02:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I have marked the journals, on their details page, with the public domain tag. And placed a note on the main page, that other journals, not represented, are not necessarily public doman just because the ones present are. Wjhonson 02:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Question about Wikisource Policy[edit]


I can't find anything on the copyright pages, or the accociated talk pages about this; so I've decided to contact you. I hope you can help, as you seem to be the reigning copyright-policy guru. I know of a work that is copyrighted by the author, but made available freely. I'd like to post this content on Wikisource, but I'm unclear if that would be bending policy, or outright breaking it. The work is called FUDGE, it is a role-playing game, and it is available here. Here is a virbatum copy of the entire (relativly short) license:

i.  Legal Notice

FUDGE - Freeform Universal Do-it-yourself Gaming Engine

(c) Copyright 1992-1995 Steffan O'Sullivan.  All rights reserved.  No
part of this work may be reproduced in any form or by any electronic
or mechanical means (including without limitation photocopying,
recording, or information storage and retrieval), except under a
limited, royalty-free license as follows:

1. Copies of all or portions of FUDGE may be made for your own use and
for distribution to others, provided that you do not charge any fee
for such copies and further provided that each copy contains this
Legal Notice in its entirety, whether distributed in print or

2. You may create derivative works such as additional rules and game
scenarios and supplements based on FUDGE, provided that (i) such
derivative works are for your own use or for distribution without
charge, or for publication in a magazine or other periodical, and (ii)
you include at the beginning of each derivative work the following

"ABOUT FUDGE" and "DISCLAIMER" paragraphs in their entirety:

   Fudge is a role-playing game written by Steffan O'Sullivan, with
   extensive input from the Usenet community of  The
   basic rules of Fudge are available on the internet at and in book form from Grey Ghost Games,
   P.O. Box 838, Randolph, MA 02368.  They may be used with any gaming
   genre.  While an individual work derived from Fudge may specify
   certain attributes and skills, many more are possible with Fudge.
   Every Game Master using Fudge is encouraged to add or ignore any
   character traits.  Anyone who wishes to distribute such material for
   free may do so - merely include this ABOUT FUDGE notice and
   disclaimer (complete with Fudge copyright notice).  If you wish to
   charge a fee for such material, other than as an article in a
   magazine or other periodical, you must first obtain a royalty-free
   license from the author of Fudge, Steffan O'Sullivan, P.O. Box 465,
   Plymouth, NH 03264.

You must include at the beginning of each derivative work the
following disclaimer, completed with your name, in its entirety.

   The following materials based on Fudge, entitled [your title],
   are created by, made available by, and Copyright (C) [copyright
   year] by [your name], and are not necessarily endorsed in
   any way by Steffan O'Sullivan or any publisher of other Fudge
   materials. Neither Steffan O'Sullivan nor any publisher of other
   Fudge materials is in any way responsible for the content of these
   materials unless specifically credited. Original Fudge materials
   Copyright (C)1992-1995 by Steffan O'Sullivan, All Rights

If you wish to distribute copies of all or portions of FUDGE or
derivative works based on FUDGE for a fee or charge, other than in a
magazine or other periodical, you must first obtain written permission

Steffan O'Sullivan
P.O. Box 465
Plymouth, NH 03264

Thanks for your input. I'd rather ask now than get warned and flamed later. —Wikijeff

Thanks for the help. —Wikijeff

Splitting texts[edit]

Sure I will do that. Keytotime

Welcome Template[edit]

Yeah, sorry for the mishap on my part. I removed it when I saw yours. :) Politicaljunkie 21:24, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Compendium Maleficarum[edit]

Thanks for fixing the formatting in the Compendium Maleficarum. I've just added some wood engravings to Chapter VI. If you have the chance, could you take a look and let me know if I've done anything wrong with their formatting? Thanks--Dereksmootz 01:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Rig Veda Headers[edit]

Hey, I had a few questions regarding Rig Veda headers. First, should the author be considered the translator, Ralph T.H. Griffith? And, should the section field be filled in? Thanks a lot. - Politicaljunkie 19:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

One question concerning Pathoschild's WikiLink table. I'm not sure what to enter for the Base URL and "search and replace patterns" field. Thanks again, I never knew these tools (which look really good!) existed. - Politicaljunkie 20:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

That's good, should I still do the headers? - Politicaljunkie 01:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Bot For Headers[edit]

Hey, I programmed my bot to add headers to all the Rig Veda pages, so it will take care of it. Also, the algorithm can be easily tweaked to apply to other works, which is good. :) Politicaljunkie 20:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

The spacing is now right, so each field is on a separate line, but I am encountering trouble with the arrows. The bot encoding is utf-8, do you know whether or not I should change it? - Politicaljunkie 21:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Jude's bot is doing the arrows, so you don't need to worry about that. - Politicaljunkie 01:19, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Chanson de Rencontre[edit]

I am the translator for Chanson de Rencontre and I disagree with you having moved it from Moniot d'Arras - Chanson de Rencontre. This is because "Chanson de Rencontre" is a generic term for a medieval "encounter" song, which is why I prefaced it with the author's name. See for yourself with this google search for "Chanson de Rencontre": [1]. I have no experience moving articles, so could you please move it back to its proper place? Thanks. PS: Thank you for correcting the author's page I made for Moniot d'Arras, I wasn't sure of the proper format. --Cnadolski 15:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply and moving it to a new link --Cnadolski 16:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


I just got kicked off... as did Xenophon. Is the server down? Jude (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

What Wikisource includes[edit]

Under "what about letters" on the talk page it specifically states that unpublished letters and diaries are acceptable. Why did you revert that ? Wjhonson 20:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

This was discussed and noted that it's not clear on the talk page. However I have posted some wording here for your review. I hope you choose to participate in the discussion of how to clarify the policy. Thanks. Wjhonson 21:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
I forgot the link. The discussion is here Wjhonson 21:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Authors in header template[edit]

Quick question. How does one add two authors to a header? Thanks. Danny 15:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

External link in template[edit]

Thanks, I didn't know how to do that. Wjhonson 16:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

The Happiest Day[edit]

I'm wondering where you've seen Poe's "The Happiest Day" written as such? As I know it, it was an unnamed work, which is why I'd moved it to (The Happiest Day) and noted on the author's page that "titles given below in parenthesis signify an unnamed or unpublished work." I chose parenthesis since the generally used square brackets are unusable in MediaWiki. I could see the poem being titled "The Happiest Day" (quotation marks included) as using the poem's lines themselves to identify it in lieu of an official name (e.g., "The happiest day, the happiest hour..."). Perhaps this is the case? – Quoth 02:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Executive Orders[edit]

To find executive orders, there are alot of sources out there. I've found the National Archive is good. Several Universities also keep some archives that are useful. I'm going to keep trying to add more when I have a chance. Let me know if you see any formatting issues - I'm still new at adding things. - Niayre 15:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Category:Works by year[edit]

Hi Zhaladshar, I was pointed to Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2006/06#Standardise_eras by User:Pathoschild when I asked if it would be worthwhile to create a system like Wikipedia's to categorize works by year (see w:en:Category:19th century works, w:en:Category:1850s works, w:en:Category:1857 works). I read part of the discussion and you seem to think that eras are more useful for the reader. Currently there are only several broad era categories, so I'm wondering what you think about categories like Category:1744 works (one that I just created to replace Category:1744 books)? I feel that at the very least year and decade categories would be useful, which can then be placed in the corresponding era categories. Or, as I would prefer, we could go by centuries and just use the era information on the decade/century categories to identify the name of the time period. I'm beginning a discussion at the Scriptorium on this, if you'd care to comment. Thanks. --Spangineerwp (háblame) 23:02, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


Sorry about overriding your sdelete. Didn't realize it was yours until after I made the change. (I usually assume that an administrator would just go ahead and delete something instead of marking it.) Feel free to switch it back if you think that's better. - illy 17:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Soft redirect script[edit]

Hmmm... looks nice, but I can't seem to get it to work. My browser isn't purging or something. I still need to copy over my wikipedia monobook so that I get all the nice popups and tabs and such. Anyway, thanks for the tip; it should be very useful once I get it working =). --Spangineerwp (háblame) 22:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Clear cache numerous times, restart computer, logout/login—none of it works. Neither .css nor .js. Perhaps using IE has something to do with it, but my popups on wp work fine. Not sure what's going on. --Spangineerwp (háblame) 23:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
It's working like a dream now. Thanks for the tip. Only thing now is how to get around the max moves/time period thing (it seems to be prohibiting me from making more than 2 moves/minute or something). --Spangineerwp (háblame) 17:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)