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This page allows users to request help for minor editorial tasks, ask editorial questions, or look for a user with access to a printed copy an edition used. General questions should be asked at the Scriptorium, particularly if the answer may be debatable. Please add requests to the bottom of the page. Requests for changes directly related to User accounts should be made to the Administrator's Noticeboard, Bureaucrat section. See also Category:Wikisource maintenance, WikiProject OCR (for OCR requests).

Permission to move images is requested

I uploaded five images for instructional purposes and the name of one I misspelled. I don’t know if the ’Move’ action is available on Wikisource, but if it is, I am applying for this permission. I have ’Move’ permission on on the Commons. Thanks. — Ineuw talk 23:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Why are you uploading these at Wikisource if they are {{PD-self}}? Wikisource normally only hosts files that are ineligible for hosting at Commons, even if they are WS-specific. If you transfer to Commons, I can delete images here for you. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 00:24, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that we have a move permission per se anyway for WS. Moving files was problematic and they pulled some magic within the mediawiki software and applied that Commons, I don't think that it was ever considered to be turned on at WS, and probably due to that images should be at Commons. Either way, as per Inductiveload, moving them to Commons is the answer.

When the images are of temporary nature, it’s much easier to have them deleted on Wikisource. I haven’t fully developed the idea and the look of a satisfactory visual demo. For example, I already found the idea of a full page image is unnecessary and cumbersome, but it will take time until I remake these images and their sequence. When the idea is fully developed, I will crate a permanent home on the Commons.— Ineuw talk 02:10, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

In that case, give me about 24 hours to upload better versions to the commons, and will request deletions.— Ineuw talk 02:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Done See my talk page. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 01:40, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

DJVUs

How would I get all these PDFs, here, into a single DJVU file? And how would I get the OCR text to show up once the index is made? Thanks! Digipoke (talk) 00:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

If you are looking to upload to Commons, then we are limited to a 100MB file, and I would think that such a compilation would exceed that limit. Is there any special reason that you were wanting them compiled into the one file? If you did want to look to a lesser number of files, it would be best to merge the PDF files, and then we could upload the file to archive.org and get derivative files generated, and that would normally include a DjVu. Alternatively there are a few people who build their own DjVus from PDF files. For more info on the processes have a peek at Help:DjVu files and Help:Proofread. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:53, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

I can convert PDFs to DJVUs if needed. I will see what I can do to merge into files by year, but I can't make any promises yet about quality or file size, though a cursory glance indicates that it should fit under 100MB at a decent quality. I will keep you updated, feel free to poke me about if I don't get back in a few days. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 23:22, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, I think I've managed to do it properly. On a related note can someone help me with this table please, it's a little too complicated for me. Also should I transclude each day separately? E.g. The 1st page starts the day of the 21st and the 2nd and 3rd continue the same day. Should the first part, before the times (the headings), be in the header so it doesn't show up when transcluded and the day looks like one long table? I'm not sure if I've explained this properly so I'll try to find an example. Thanks. Digipoke (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

I have started the page, and just treat as a 5 column table from there. With regard to continuing pages, I would think that if you copy the header component to subsequent pages to the header that would be fine. Start each central component with

<!--placeholder text-->
|-
| …

and that should prevent space gobbling. Also to end each page with the table close in the footer. Your challenge will be to determine how it is going to be transcluded whether it is a day at a time, or a week or a month, and that may depend on what and how it is linked to externally, or other pages within the work. I would suggest to do some pages of transcription get a few together and run some trials either in Wikisource:Sandbox or in one in your user pages. This is the sort of work that is the first in the space, so it is going to be some trial and error, and probably working through a variety of opinions. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:30, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Once I've finised some tables, I will try out some transclution options and see what works best. Digipoke (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Problem with djvu upload

I am getting a strange result regarding two djvu files I uploaded to Commons. I asked there a week ago and haven't gotten any response, and I'm hoping someone on this project is familiar with this problem. I uploaded a number of djvu files from archive.org and most of them went well (a multi-volume work), but File:Federal Cases, Volume 28.djvu and File:Federal Cases, Volume 19.djvu did not. I cannot navigate to particular pages in them and the thumbnail is just an icon. There is also some text contained (some) file information following the icon which doesn't appear on other djvu pages. Index:Federal Cases, Volume 28.djvu and Index:Federal Cases, Volume 19.djvu do not even detect the files on Commons at all, although they are there. I downloaded the files from Commons and was able to open them on my computer, so they do not appear to be corrupted. I re-uploaded one of them to see if there was a problem with the initial attempt, but that did not solve the problem, either. I'm new to wikisource and the whole djvu thing, so I don't know if this is a common or easily fixable problem. RJC (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

There is something wrong with the file that Commons isn't liking., it isn't detecting components, see [ × pixels, file size: 79.16 MB, MIME type: image/vnd.djvu] O am unable to tell you more than that. I will see if we can delete it and try again. — billinghurst sDrewth 17:00, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

This sometimes happens when the first internal indirect djvu file is named "0000.djvu" or something just as similar where "page 1" doesn't translate properly as "djvu page 1" but as a null or shared library/dictionary file normally does instead. I had this problem where the GoogleBooks disclaimer page had to be deleted in order for the rest of the djvu to process and render properly in the Index: namespace for this reason awhile back (though I don't see anything like that in this case from the directory of files currently on Archive.org). Re-checking the existing djvu on Any2Djvu might be enough to "break it free" but the resulting text layer most likely won't be as good as the one imported by the Archive.org folks. You can always try re-djvu-ing the pdf from Archive.org over on Any2Djvu.org if all else fails. -- George Orwell III (talk) 19:22, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Help with Template

Is there any way I can get this template to display at its proper width, when put on this or any other Condor index page? Digipoke (talk) 19:00, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

hmm, it seems to be gobbling the table opening for some reason, and I cannot give more time now. As a general comment, we wouldn't be putting an INDEX directed contents table into the main ns. I would only see this table applicable for use in Index namespace or a project related space. With regard to width, what do you define as "proper", you don't say what is happening. You can always try a min-width if it is gobbling space, or you can give it a fix width. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:13, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

The problem was the table was really thin, but I've used the min-width and it seems to be working, although the table does look slighty different on some pages (Issue numbers taking up 2 lines), but I think it's fine. Yes, only for the index pages to navigate to another volume (index) more easily. Thanks. Digipoke (talk) 17:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Changing username

Please rename my account to "Vanished User 5693". Reason is w:WP:RTV. And delete my current username from actual page version. —unsigned comment by His Shadow (talk) 21:21, 12 August 2011.

Please make these type of requests on the Admin's Noticeboard at the end of the Bureaucrat section. Remember to sign your request next time as well. -- George Orwell III (talk) 22:24, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Request cross-posted to WS:AN. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 19:32, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Swap page in djvu file

Hi. I came across this page, with an unreadable left part Page:History of Hudson County and of the Old Village of Bergen.djvu/57. I found [scan] where the page is readable. It is a scan of the same original and here the page is readable. Is there anyone who can swap the page in the djvu file? Thanks --Mpaa (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Done Cheers, Inductiveload—talk/contribs 19:25, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. If I go to the page above to proofread and remove 'Problematic', I still see the old page. But if I click on the Image link on top of the page, the new image is there! Do you see the new one? Is it only me? --Mpaa (talk) 22:58, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

I see a readable scan. I have marked it as Proofread. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Unable to add new text

While trying to add a new page through the search function, there is no way to add a new page. The Help contents say that there should be an edit button at the top of the page. I don't see it. Joe Chill (talk) 01:26, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

You need to go to the desired page, such as New Page, and then you should see the edit button. It won't appear in the search screen. By the way, it is preferred that texts should be backed up by a scanned copy. If you need help locating an online copy or uploading one, please ask. There's a guideline at Help:Beginner's guide to Index: files, but it is easier to see how this works in practice a few times before one feels confident enough to do it himself (based on my own experience). --Eliyak T·C 07:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Would this be wrong to do?

I added A Bit Of Sunshine and I saw that words have a slash after each syllable in the scanned book so I added them. In the case of the Wikisource page, should I edit it to remove all of the slashes? Joe Chill (talk) 00:23, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

No, that is correct. The primary aim is to replicate the text. The best thing to do in this situation is to upload that Internet Archive book to Commons as a DjVu and then proofread it using side-by-side page scans. That we we have an easily verified source of the transcribed work. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 07:30, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

As a start, if you are interested, I have set up Index:A Bit of Sunshine.djvu for you to play with. Don't worry about breaking anything, experiment freely and leave a message here or at my talk page if you need anything. :-) Inductiveload—talk/contribs 07:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Continuing tables

What have I done wrong here? Trying to get the table from 102 & 103 to carry on by using the headers and footers, but it keeps misplacing the 1st row of the 2nd page. Thanks in advance. Misarxist (talk) 12:14, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

It needed a either a leading {{nop}} or <!-- comment first line--> which stops the first bit of the line being treated as characters rather than wiki table formatting. I have also had a little play through the table. You may also wish to consider adding a table width as the full width on a wide screen does tend to make the table lose form. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:22, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Masonry (Freemasonry) only half there

Hello. I was looking at the article on Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Masonry (Freemasonry) from the 1913 CE, and, the last half of it appears to be missing. Can someone load the last half of that article? Thanks! --Kenatipo2 (talk) 21:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

There isn't much activity happening in that project at this time, and most of the work has been more about getting the text aligned with the images. More detail at Wikisource:WikiProject Catholic Encyclopedia Upgrade. If you are looking for the text, and know the page, you should be able to look at the original scan via that link. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:49, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, Billinghurst. --Kenatipo2 (talk) 05:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

I've now completed the article by pasting in the rest. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:00, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Restoring a Page to Validated Status?

Hi! I am wondering if it would be possible to remove my edits to Page:Wood Beyond the World.djvu/129 following my validation edit at 09:28, 19 October 2011. The later edits were unsuccessful attempts, (including adjusting the page status back to earlier statuses) to manually fix the "trailing lf" issue (see User:SDrewthbot/trim trailing LF ) I think the trailing LF issue, for now, can only be fixed by bot, and does not impact the validation of the page. But I am no longer eligible to validate it, bc I have a later edit at Proofreading status. So, I'm requesting either my later edits to be removed, or someone else to validate that one page (if that would be simpler.) Thanks! Lini (talk) 01:29, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Done I just validated it, that seems easier. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 01:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Lini (talk) 11:28, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

general public documents and...

1. I cant seem to figure out how to upload a scan of a document and have it side-by-side the wikified version.
2. I also want to know if its appropriate to upload scans of open documents like state board of health meeting minutes, and things like that?

thanks Pulmonological (talk) 21:09, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

For the first point, you upload the file to Wikimedia Commons if it is public domain in the US and in the originating country (which is the US as well?). Say you upload the file File:Sandbox.djvu, you then go to Index:Sandbox.djvu and fill in the form there. You can then go the pages by Page:Sandbox.djvu/1, where the "1" is the page number of the page you wish to edit. After you save the index page, you will get a list of pages if the file is a DjVu or a PDF.

As for the appropriateness, I can't say for sure, but if it is a document by the US federal government (but not by contractors to the federal government), then it is should be Public Domain and suitable for inclusion here. State government works may be copyrighted and vary by state, you can read Copyright status of work by U.S. state governments at Wikipedia for more info. That's really all I can say without knowing the full details of the work in question. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 21:19, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

The documents are in the public domain, copyright isnt an issue; the issue is the appropriateness of inclusion of every document in public domain even if its a memo about lunch - made public by way of requirement of law. I guess if its public domain, its public domain. Nothing wrong with being a source for as much information as possible right? Pulmonological (talk) 21:35, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Further, here is exactly a thing I am super confused about Hawaii Revised Statutes Chapter 466D - Respiratory_Therapists.djvu and Hawaii_Revised_Statutes_Chapter_466D_-_Respiratory_Therapists

We don't have a "notability" criterion like Wikipedia, so technically every PD text is hostable. However if it is a mess or lacks source data or clear copyright-free status it could be deleted (but only after a discussion at WS:PD or WS:CV). "Drive-by" copy-paste jobs which often result in orphaned works with no incoming links and low text quality are discouraged, even if the document is public domain. We'd rather have a well-formatted text that is well integrated into the Wikisource collection.

Exactly what are you confused about? The first link is not a file link, as it does not begin with "File:". If you want it to exist, you need to upload a PDF or DjVu to Wikimedia Commons at commons:Special:Upload. The second is a valid mainspace page that you have just created. If you wish to have a scan-backed work, you need to upload the original file to Commons, create the index and then add the text from the mainspace to the Page: pages. H:SIDE and H:INDEX can help you navigate this system. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 22:43, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Rendering a page in pdf

I came Wikisource in response to a request at w:Wikipedia:Help desk#The Statement of Randolph Carter. The user there wanted to render “The Statement of Randolph Carter” in pdf. I thought I could render The Statement of Randolph Carter, but the pdf showed only <pages index="Avon Fantasy Reader 10.djvu" from=55 to=60 /> instead of the text of the story. I found I could create a semi-usable pdf from Index:Avon Fantasy Reader 10.djvu pp 53-58, rendered as a book, but that maintained the page divisions of the original. Is there a way to create a pdf that looks like The Statement of Randolph Carter? —teb728 t c 22:23, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

This is a know bug of the PediaPress-maintained "Collection" extension with respect to the "pages" tag, which is heavily used at Wikisource. A bug has was filed here in November 2009, and the PediaPress team has recently been made aware of the importance of the problem, but we have seen little progress with it to date. This issue is somewhat related to the recentrequest for ePub support at the Scriptorium. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 23:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

As a temporary solution, depending on whether you have MS Word or not, you can copy/paste the text from Wikisource into a Word document, then convert it to a PDF document via Save As/PDF. That should do the trick. If you can't, let me know. Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:55, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. —teb728 t c 21:24, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Requesting page validation

Accidentally changed the status of this page Page:Popular Science Monthly Volume 48.djvu/606. Can someone please revalidate it? Thank you— Ineuw talk 08:10, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Done. ResScholar (talk) 09:59, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Index:Female Prose Writers of America.djvu

This Proofread of the Month for April 2011 is nearing completion, and needs only five more of its pages validated. I can't do them myself because I happened to have proofread those pages. Your help would be greatly appreciated by myself, and I'm sure by my fellow contributors Inductiveload and George Orwell III who have worked hard on bringing this work to final completion. ResScholar (talk) 13:29, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Done — billinghurst sDrewth 14:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Adding a poem

I'm trying to add Byron's poem "The Corsair" using the text from Project Gutenberg. This is what it looks like right now:The Corsair (Byron). It looks like a mess right now because I haven't fixed the formatting. I was hoping that there is an easier way to fix the formatting rather than going through it line by line. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! Kerowyn (talk) 01:04, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

See Help:Editing poetry. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

"block infobox"

Sorry if I'm posting this in an inappropriate place but is there anybody interested in helping me here? Thanks in advance. Americophile (talk) 10:27, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

here is okay. I have answered at the template. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)