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Apparent transclusion problem[edit]

I can't work out what I've done wrong on How to Get Strong and How to Stay So (1899)/Chapter 12 and How to Get Strong and How to Stay So (1899)/Chapter 13, but no text is showing up. Yet How to Get Strong and How to Stay So (1899)/Appendix 1 is fine. All I did was copy/paste and adjust page range. The header is fine, so must be the pages command. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:10, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

I think it may be some kind of damage present in the DjVu file. If I visit Page:How to Get Strong (1899).djvu/534, there is no "Next" tab to continue to the following page. There may be other factors in play, such as the sheer number of pages or template load, but the absence of the tab for the Next page is unexpected behavior that may mean the file itself has issues to be corrected. It wouldn't be the first time we've had such a problem. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Bother! And on top of the OCR offset. This was an IA Upload conversion to djvu rather than a direct upload. I think I'll have to upload the pdf version and get the pages moved across. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:32, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

"Expression error: Unexpected > operator" on creation of an author page[edit]

Can someone please advise why I am getting this error on this page? Thanks — Ineuw talk 00:22, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

@Ineuw: the {{PD/1923}} template requires a parameter and doesn't fail gracefully when the parameter is missing. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:45, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
@Beleg Tâl: I had an offline copy of a very old author template used to create the PSM contributors. From before the Noachian flood and at a time when most of the PSM authors departed way before 1923. Now it is corrected. Thanks. — Ineuw talk 02:27, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Main namespace display 4 is misaligned[edit]

The Page namespace and Main namespace differ both in width and column alignment. The main namespace Display 4 column width should be the same as Display 2 (540px). The difference being only the font. Consequently, I set my page namespace to match the Display 4 as close as possible as shown in this image. — Ineuw talk 04:33, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

But you set lots of formatting into the Page, then set a whole additional set of formatting by using both Display 4 and PSM formatting in the Main namespace. With three competing sets of formatting instructions applied to the same content, it's no wonder the display is off. Best practice is to place one set of formatting instructions in just one location or the other, not multiple formatting in both. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:58, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
@EncycloPetey: Thanks for looking at the code, and apologies for the delay in replying. This is not worth to waste your time on. I removed the contents of commmon.css and there was no change except the character size was reduced so much as to make the edit text illegible. So, I restored the code which enlarges the text, and left out which has no longer relevance because of the Wikimedia changes over time. However, if one selects Display 2, then there is no problem and Display 4 is based on that. — Ineuw talk 03:55, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
It's not common.css that's the issue. You have put a div tag in the Page namespace with lots of specific formatting, then added two layers of formatting in the Main namespace when the page is transcluded. Those three sets of formatting conflict with each other. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:19, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
@EncycloPetey: There is no div in the main namespace. If you are referring to {{PSMLayoutTop}} it is a redirect to the Display layout 4. Also, the same page displays properly when setting the Display layout to 2. I tested this by commenting out PSMLayoutTop and PSMLayoutBottom. — Ineuw talk 23:33, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I have checked the edit history, and at no point have you commented out PSMLayoutTop or PSMLayoutBottom. You inserted <noinclude>, but when that tag is used in the Main namespace, it does nothing; it only functions when the content is transcluded to another location. I'm sorry that I have not been able to help you, but I think this would involve much more explaining about CSS and wiki mechanics than I have time for. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:55, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
My apologies for the confusion. I logged in as IneuwPublic to test it. I do that on occasion when I have a problem and don't want to change my setup. I picked Chapter IV and here is the edit history. I used the HTML comment out method < ! -- -- > If you ask why I switched to Chapter IV, it was an oversight and never expected it to come up in this discussion.
All chapters have the same problem. I also pointed out that switching to display 2 there is no issue. Display 2 is the basis for display 4. When I created that work it was perfectly aligned.
The problem lies in the .css definition of the display layout and my problem is that I can't find the Mediawiki css which handles the display layouts. The history of which would tell me immediately what happened. I understand you are too busy and you can't help and thanks for your time. — Ineuw talk 07:39, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
I found the display settings. It's in the MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js. — Ineuw talk 07:58, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Deleting Google cover pages from PDFs[edit]

I have a bunch of PDF Google scans from which I need to remove the cover page before upload. I tried using Preview.app on macOS, but that ballooned the size from 25.4MB to 111MB. Anyone else seen this problem? Ideas on how to solve it? Suggestions for other ways to delete the pages without triggering a fourfold expansion of size? --Xover (talk) 07:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@Xover: I've been using PDF Split and Merge for this kind of operations on PDF files. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 11:27, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Beleg Tâl. I'm a little allergic to Java-based tools for various reasons. But I did do some more Googling, and found that the problems with Preview.app are widespread: Sierra PDF Problems Get Worse in 10.12.2 (in addition to the ballooning size, it also tends to strip out the OCR layer!). So, deciding that a fix for Preview.app was unlikely in the near future, I bit the bullet and bought PDFPen from Smile Software (somewhat expensive, but convenient, and I've had good experiences with their iPad software), which uses a different PDF engine than the built-in one from macOS that Preview.app uses. And the results would have been "spectacular" except they were just exactly what you would expect: marginal change in PDF file size when deleting the Google cover page. In any case, the takeaway is: don't use Preview.app on macOS to edit PDFs unless you know for certain that the major bugs have been fixed. --Xover (talk) 11:50, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Possible donation of patents and drawings[edit]

I'm not active in wikisource, so not quite sure where to post this query. I'm an OTRS agent and fielding an email from a relative of someone who is associated with Tesla Edison and others and has a "box full of patents and drawings", with over 200 inventions. Is this someone this person could contact to find out whether this material would be suitable for wikisource? I'll point them to this discussion but will also help in facilitating exchange of email addresses.--Sphilbrick (talk) 15:46, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Formatting final version[edit]

This relates to Trials of the Slave Traders Samo, Peters and Tufft. At the moment everything gets centred after page 40. Not quite sure why this is? Can this be fixed. Also any help in finishing the item off would be very much appreciated. Leutha (talk) 05:34, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

The centering problems were from page 39. I've amended that and it seems to be OK now. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

About proofreading[edit]

I'm new to this so - I found a book that I'm really enjoying proofreading but I can't do all the pages because some have illustrations. My question is - how do I let you know when I've finished what I can so you can have someone do the 10 or so pages I can't? Do you automatically get notified when a book is done? I'm working on Aunt Jo's Scrap-bag by Louisa May Alcott and I only have about 20 pages left. Thanks, unsigned comment by Mkjames100 (talk) .

Hi Mkjames100. Welcome to our little site, and great that you are finding somewhere to contribute, thanks for what you are doing. Help:Page status gives some information about your questions, and also Help:Beginner's guide to proofreading which has pointers to Template:missing image. Pages with images that need to be replicated get tagged with {{missing image}} and marked as problematic, if there is text and you have proofread that text, then a comment into summary is helpful. Re completion and notification, who is the "you"? Not exactly certain what you are expecting/wanting.

When an index page has its proofreading status changed, ie. Index:Aunt Jo's Scrap-Bag, Volume 5.djvu there is categorisation that changes. Normally we have good watching on recent changes, so someone generally knows and assists if it is required, or we are pinged here. There are numbers of processes that take place, so depending which it is, will set of triggers, though not announcements. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:57, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Your incorrect schedules[edit]

Just wondered if these are to be altered so that the columns refer to the data supplied?

Yours, Neil, South Africa.unsigned comment by 203.7.43.45 (talk) .

please provide a link to the page at which you are seeing issues. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:55, 23 July 2017 (UTC)