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Archive to 30 November 2012

Archive to 31 May 2013

Archive to 30 November 2013

Archive to 30 November 2014


From Wikisource:Proofread of the Month/Coding[edit]

From the list of works at Wikisource:Proofread of the Month/Coding, I come up with names

  1. Mpaa
  2. Kathleen.wright5
  3. Samwilson
  4. Feydey
  5. GreyHead
  6. Clockery
  7. EncycloPetey
  8. Billinghurst
  9. Phe
  10. William Maury Morris II
  11. Reguyla
  12. Keith Edkins
  13. Zhaladshar
  14. Rochefoucauld
  15. Carriearchdale
  16. Londonjackbooks
  17. Slowking4
  18. WeeJeeVee
  19. Dick Bos‎
  20. Pelagic
  21. Akme
  22. Pixelwarrior
  23. Wurstmaster
  24. AlbertBickford
  25. Tar-ba-gan
  26. Xpctr8
  27. JoshuaKGarner
  28. 25akk
  29. Beleg Tâl‎
  30. Lo Ximiendo
  31. Sam.hill7
  32. Whittingtonpaul

There is an extended list at Wikisource:Proofread of the Month/validation works that I have yet to check. I'm happy to botify the user page badges if that makes things easier. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Additionals on my list:

  1. Beeswaxcandle
  2. Moondyne
  3. Peteforsyth
  4. Stagerj
  5. WhatamIdoing
  6. Zeete

Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Another: User:Gumr51 in Mexico city, Mx. who has also posted his name, Raul Gutierrez, several times. —Maury (talk) 18:07, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
I didn't see that Gumr51 was working on the validation works, can you point me to where. The validation works doesn't show up more names, though I also find Hrishikes at Category:Indexes validated in November 2014, and that shows me 26 works completed, which will be the number with which I work. I will get the bot to update. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:33, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
OOPS ! No sir, Gumr51 didn't work on the validations for November that I am aware of and I cannot think of an excuse for my misstatement but I do apologize for it. U LL DIE IN AGONY BITCH!

U SOB!

September POTM award[edit]

Hello Beeswaxcandle, I would like to consult on the following: I feel that September award] is too much for the couple of pages I edited, with some of my edits later rejected by other editors for good. How do you find out about contributors participation and judge about their eligibility for awards? I would like to look into my contributions critically and try to organize my work better given your advice. Best regards and thanks for your many good works, Tar-ba-gan (talk) 14:55, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

I was asked similarly, and I have explained that it is a participation award,. @Tar-ba-gan: it is your user page and it is up to you whether you wish to retain it. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:33, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Text rendering[edit]

Hello, Beeswaxcandle. Looking for your opinion as to how a poet might want his text rendered if he had use of a full screen. Please see "In a Night of Midsummer" on this page, and feel free to apply changes. Thank you! Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:45, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I suspect he would have restricted the width. The lines are unbalanced as they are, with the header looking lost. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:05, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Any length recommendations keeping in mind eReaders, etc? 300px/400? Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:27, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
My eReader copes with anything up to 500px, but this doesn't leave enough white-space around the centered block. Have a look at 375 and see how it goes. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 22:35, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! Londonjackbooks (talk) 22:46, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Delete an Author Page?[edit]

Good Evening!

Some time ago, I created an author page for Archdeacon Walls (I still don't know his first name) because I had a letter that he wrote to Jonathan Swift. Well, it turns out that Swift wrote the letter to Walls. I believe that I’ve replaced the first (wrongly identified) letter with the second (correctly identified) letter on Swift's author page, in the index, and in volume 11 of Swift's works. But that leaves the author page for Archdeacon Walls. I had also added his name to the Author Index:Wa. But without this letter, he wrote nothing that I know of. I've therefore removed the letter from his author page, but I didn't mark the author page for deletion, in case there is a reason to keep it. I know of no reason to keep it. Would you like for me to go ahead and mark it for deletion?

I’m still wondering if you had any comments about my earlier question about links in poetry? I have decided to do what I did in Gulliver's Travels -- I added links to things that are real (like England and Holland) and I didn't add links to things created for the story, (like Luggnagg and Gulliver). Do you agree with this?

Thank you for your help. Susan Susanarb (talk) 05:30, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

I've deleted the author page as a quick search shows nothing to identify him and therefore nothing to link him with any works.

With respect to links, I tend to keep them light and only link to things or words that are essential to understanding—and wouldn't be understood by the average intelligent reader in the target audience for the particular work. In Gulliver's Travels I wouldn't link to England or Holland as these are common terms that you can expect readers to understand. I also wouldn't link to terms like Luggnagg as it's obviously an invented name in the book. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for those comments. I started off doing that a long time ago. For example, I would only link to places that were lesser known, like Hanover. But then there's Ireland, which was clearly a reference to the old Kingdom of Ireland, and not either form of Ireland as it is now. Or how about Winchester, an important city in England, but not as well known outside the country. Then there are all of the terms that were popular in the early 1700s (like Whig, Tory, freethinking, etc.), and the people who are sometimes known by less recognized titles (like the treasurer for Robert Harley, or the Prince of Orange for King William III). After a while, there were so many links to words that were either lesser-known or outdated, the other words that may be better known looked out of place, so I started inserting links for anything for which more than a dictionary might be helpful to those who were not students of the era. I still like your thought to only link where essential to understanding, and that's how I’ll continue. Thanks! Susanarb (talk) 17:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

A notice of deletion from the Commons[edit]

I think that I uploaded this book for you last March, and now I got a notice of intended deletion. I am not sure at all if it was you, so forgive me if I made a mistake.— Ineuw talk 01:43, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't me. Could have been @EncycloPetey: as this is more in his interest area. However, the deletion request on Commons has been withdrawn. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I didn't check its status in the past 60 minutes. :-)— Ineuw talk 02:57, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
For the record, it wasn't me, but I am glad to see the book will not be deleted. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:07, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Index:New York arcade railway as projected .. (McAlpine, William Jarvis, 1884).djvu[edit]

Definitely interesting. Minor issue is that pp. 11 and 10 appear to be transposed in the scans. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:10, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Went on safari today.[edit]

Long story short - I made the mistake of using my iPod for more than just music just now and either

  • a.) I don't know enough about my iPod to deserve owning one in the first place; or
  • b.) There is nothing to know (the browser & the OS' share the same build number or something).

Ascertaining the OS was no problem (8.1.2 - only because I hadn't used it for so long, an interim update was waiting for my OK all that time).

Any clue as to where I should be looking for Safari's build no. on a 5th gen iPood? -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:22, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't know for sure as I don't have a web-capable iDevice. Apple usually put version numbers for their softward in "About ...". Try Settings> Safari and see if there is an "about" option to choose. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:52, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
That's just it, I go to [General] settings --> About and its all about the hardware and some key settings(ver., model., serial, WiFi MAC, Bluetooth MAC etc). Everything else in "settings" has do with preferences etc.

I wish I never did this. Safari aside, Wikisource is absolutely worthless in mobile mode if you manage to get past the Main Page. The layouts are anything but pleasant to the eye, nothing works except maybe opening the article's talk page and there is literally no easy way to navigate (not even to subpage) without using search.

So thanks anyway - I guess I'll just post my results against the OS and that's that. How much of a difference could there be? Its not like dealing with Microsoft products. -- George Orwell III (talk) 06:50, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

New Proposal Notification - Replacement of common main-space header template[edit]

Announcing the listing of a new formal proposal recently added to the Scriptorium community-discussion page, Proposals section, titled:

Switch header template foundation from table-based to division-based

The proposal entails the replacement of the current Header template familiar to most with a structurally redesigned new Header template. Replacement is a needed first step in series of steps needed to properly address the long time deficiencies behind several issues as well as enhance our mobile device presence.

There should be no significant operational or visual differences between the existing and proposed Header templates under normal usage (i.e. Desktop view). The change is entirely structural -- moving away from the existing HTML all Table make-up to an all Div[ision] based one.

Please examine the testcases where the current template is compared to the proposed replacement. Don't forget to also check Mobile Mode from the testcases page -- which is where the differences between current header template & proposed header template will be hard to miss.

For those who are concerned over the possible impact replacement might have on specific works, you can test the replacement on your own by entering edit mode, substituting the header tag {{header with {{header/sandbox and then previewing the work with the change in place. Saving the page with the change in place should not be needed but if you opt to save the page instead of just previewing it, please remember to revert the change soon after your done inspecting the results.

Your questions or comments are welcomed. At the same time I personally urge participants to support this proposed change. -- George Orwell III (talk) 02:04, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Greek[edit]

Hi. Would you mind helping me with this greek Page:Impressions- A Book of Verse.djvu/59? TIA--Mpaa (talk) 23:27, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done . I've left the spacing to you to do, as I don't want to be inconsistent with other pages in the book. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:49, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Correct formatting[edit]

Hey,

I'm unsure of how to correctly format something within the following page; https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Blue_Magic.djvu/37. I'm specifically unsure of how to format the; "Yours most sincerely..." section. I've tried to figure out how to format/code it properly within the help section, but couldn't find the information there. If you could point me in the right direction, that would be great.


Regards, Deathbringer404. Deathbringer404 (talk) 09:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

These right hanging multi-line signatures are a bit of a nuisance to layout consistently and still have them flow to different screen sizes. George devised the {{SigR}} template to cope with this (and I see he's already inserted it there). It's not something that's in the help pages, and it would be a good idea to put it there somewhere. Which help page would make the most sense to you when trying to find it? By the way, on that same page there is a wider gap before the last paragraph. To represent this break in thought it would be best to use a double line break. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
It would probably make most sense in either the indenting, or the paragraph section. Thanks for the assistance, and have adjusted for that wider gap.

Deathbringer404 (talk) 02:29, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Opinion sought[edit]

Hello. I was wondering if I could get your opinion as to whether I should devote Mainspace pages to book sections or to individual poems for this work. The work itself is not long, but the longest section is about 60 pages long. I have done so for even longer sections in other works, but every work is a different case. What are your thoughts? Thanks for your input, Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

My personal preference would be separate pages for each poem, partly because there is a numbered sequence anyway, and partly because doing so allows the reader to focus on a single poem. I don't think Bridges was aiming at comparative study on language, style or form, rather he was just making them available to a wider readership. What are you thinking about doing with the current non-scan backed versions of Hopkins' poems? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I think most if not all of the non-scan backed versions may have been copied from Bartleby.com or from some other online source, but I could be wrong. There is no attribution on Talk pages, and no information I could gather in the creating editor's history. I was thinking of either moving the existing pages to the scan-backed version or making them redirects if I chose the section route. I am open to suggestions. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Added note: Three of the non-scan backed poems listed on the Author page are not included in the work: "It was a hard thing to undo this knot" | "Thee, God, I come from, to thee go" | "To him who ever thought with love of me". The last two poems are numbered at Bartleby.com as #s 73 & 74 respectively in the 1918 work (as stated), but they are not present in the scan here at WS, which ends at #72. Perhaps a later edition included extra poems? Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:16, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
More thinking out loud: The two poems mentioned are mentioned in the Notes of the scan (see), which makes me think we may be missing a page or two. Drat. I'll keep digging... Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I have emailed a couple booksellers who are selling first edition copies of the book hoping they might be able to supply information as to whether the two poems in question are indeed contained in the work, and on what page(s). The TOC states that the facsimile "of an Unfinished Poem" begins "at p. 92". Poem #72 ends on page 90. That would leave a page 91, and perhaps another page after the facsimile pages... We'll see! Can't find another version online. I believe only 750 copies were made, so the book is scarce. Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:15, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I've looked at the book and pagelist in detail. There appears to be a facsimile image missing between 70 and 71 (or the second blank page shouldn't be there). This is because pages have to be in pairs.

I'm not sure that poem #72 does end on page 90. This is because of the asterism at the bottom of that page. Bridges seems to be using asterism to indicate a break in the text, and hasn't put it at the end of any other fragments. Also, the footnote at the bottom of p86 says that the facsimile is "after p. 92." So, yes, pp 91 and 92 are missing from this scan. I don't know what to suggest at this point. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:51, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I will sit on it and wait for either another version to surface online or to hear back from the booksellers. Whether they would be willing to send scans is probably unlikely... Their books are being sold at $6000 and $12000. Bummer. Thank you for your input. I will copy your response to my 'Housekeeping' page for future reference. Thanks :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:30, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Proposal to delete Module:Tl[edit]

Hello. I was the IP attempting to draw attention to the apparent oddity represented by the above module. Unfortunately in removing my (malformed?) {{speedy}} request you also removed visibility of my change comment indicating the potential issue.

I may well be flogging a dead pony here (and am not at all sure why I am bothering) but I shall try one last time to reconstruct my concerns and let you (or @AdamBMorgan:) decide whether or not to proceed:

  • Module:Tl is not LUA which means its code as it currently stands can never be utilised. It is pointless to move it into the Template: namespace as it is merely a cruder version of the already existing {{tl}}. (I never thought I would ever need to type such a thing.)
  • As far as I am able to determine Module:Tl is not referred to in any way.
  • Why did I not put the speedy directly into that module? Because it is not a namespace in which template usage is recognised and thus you would never see the flag. I tried to compromise by putting the request into talk space and you clearly did not recognise the implications.

I hope that by writing to you in simple words I might have tweaked your curiosity sufficiently to give this some actual, real consideration before binning the whole matter as too anal to deal with. (I am wasting all three of us' time, aren't I?) 101.174.157.174 10:29, 30 January 2015 (UTC)


The Wiggles Live at Disneyland[edit]

I wish somebody wanted to create a page on Wikipedia about an Australian television special broadcast on Disney Channel Australia in 1998 and taking place in Disneyland. It's called "The Wiggles Live at Disneyland". What do you think, guys? Dcelano, 00:17, February 2, 2015, (UTC)

This is Wikisource, not Wikipedia. See WS:WWI for details of what we cover. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:47, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Index:The Boy Land Boomer.djvu[edit]

Beez, I enjoyed working with you on this book! Respectfully, —Maury (talk) 08:56, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you [Beez should say] ....and "You're welcome" [says I] because it would have taken a long time waiting for someone to validate all of those pages. As it is the book was competed in one night. —Maury (talk) 20:06, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:26, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you [Beez should say] ....and "You're welcome" [says I] because it would have taken a long time waiting for someone to validate all of those pages. Validators aren't so plentiful. As it is the book was competed in one night. It was and remains a matter of good manners on my part. —Maury (talk) 07:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Index:The Story of the House of Cassell (book).djvu[edit]

BWC, Thank you for doing the Illustrations List. —Maury (talk) 13:03, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I cannot Validate this page[edit]

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Under_MacArthur_in_Luzon.djvu/89 —Maury (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Public domain speeches by Leonard Nimoy[edit]

Please see Author talk:Leonard Simon Nimoy.

I believe this speech in video file at bottom of page, http://www.treknews.net/2012/04/29/leonard-nimoy-welcomes-space-shuttle-enterprise-to-new-york/ -- is public domain. -- Cirt (talk) 03:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

It's just a fancruft blog. Is there a specific release for that speech? Remember that copyright subsists automatically unless one of the exceptions is met. Do note, however, that the copyright author template allows for the occasional work to be PD. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:50, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Not sure yet. Still in process of research. Only created author page mere moments ago. Please bear with me. Have patience. Thank you for your tolerance, -- Cirt (talk) 03:55, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Question: How else to document and collate all works "about" an author, if the someone else wishes to disappear the Wikisource author page itself from existence? Can I create a category about the author? What is wrong with having the page with an "about" section to help catalogue free-use-licensed works "about" the author? -- Cirt (talk) 03:59, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
The Author namespace is not intended to be a topic namespace. See the notes at the beginning of Help:Author pages for general instructions. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:16, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm not asking you what it's not for. I'm asking you for help. How to catalogue such pages together, if not by using an author page? -- Cirt (talk) 04:18, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Read the notes on the Help page: If highly notable, then use a Portal. I personally don't think this applies to Nimoy. However, others may disagree with me. I would link to the various documents from his WP article and not worry about linking them together here. This is after all the point of WS. If there are biographical documents, then a category under some section of Category:Biographies would be appropriate. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:36, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice. I'll consider it, but respectfully disagree at this time. Please note: still in the process of additional research -- there's gotta be more free-use works by and related to this author. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 17:29, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
With all due respect, BWC's PoV is pretty much the practice if not the policy itself around here in my opinion too. At best, the About section is the only part that should be / could be kept thanks to the existence of the tributes being linked from there. All the other stuff has no chance of ever becoming PD in our time so it's just "padding" & doing Amazon's work for them (thats what Wikipedia is for; not Wikisource plus you kinda lost that argument the second you linked back to Wikipedia articles from within the list(s)). -- George Orwell III (talk) 22:21, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I thought it was standard practice to list works on a page by an author, both those that are and those that aren't yet public domain? -- Cirt (talk) 22:24, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

How do I get administrative rights?[edit]

Hello Beeswaxcandle! How I can get administrative rights? It would be quite helpful for me since I am having trouble deleting pages that I've accidentally created.Aphillipsmusique (talk) 05:28, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

The relevant page that explains what adminship means here is WS:Adminship. I've just made my standard quick review of your contributions, and if you were nominated at this stage, I would have to say "not yet." For me, I need to see that you have a diverse range of edits that demonstrate knowledge of our policies and guidelines. I don't see that yet. If you accidently create a page that you no longer require, please mark it with {{sdelete|reason}}, where "reason" is one of those listed at WS:CSD. Several admins have the speedy deletes on our watchlists and requests are usually dealt with within a few hours. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks for deleting that PDF so quickly. Cheers. Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 19:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Undelete and userfy?[edit]

Since you replaced the JPG with a DJVU, you deleted this: Page:Oregon, My Oregon.jpg

I was very interested to pore through the edit history of that page, to learn more about LilyPad. (I also thought saving a JPG of the lyrics-only portion that you did first might be worthwhile.) Could yo undelete it, and maybe move it to my user space? -Pete (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done —Now at User:Peteforsyth/Oregon, My Oregon.jpg Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:54, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

validations[edit]

Beez, do you have other books that are almost finished and need to be validated? If so, please list them here. —Maury (talk) 09:15, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Nearly all of mine either have lots of pages waiting to be validated or someone has already kindly done them. However, there is Index:Authority and Knowledge.djvu that would like a little attention. Thanks.Yes check.svg Done —Maury (talk) 19:33, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

By the way, do you want to tackle the index of the Cassell's book over the next week or so? Then we can mark that as complete, too. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:28, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I have never been good at the use of codes such as

|ts
|ar

because I have never studied them or looked them over closely. However, there are other ways to do the Index and I will try to do the Index pages. —Maury (talk) 19:33, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Unsure as to what to do.[edit]

Mattj2000 uploaded a copy of PSM volume 32 of an unknown printing, where THIS PAGE and AND THIS should have been inserted prior to THIS PAGE which would have been its proper places in the PSM scheme of things. The copy of IA which I use as a reference, [1] and the next page Image show the proper page placement.

Downloaded the djvu file to my desktop but cannot decide if it's worth to replace the old copy, because I don't know how to shift the .djvu pages on the commons. Your input would be most valuable. — Ineuw talk 19:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

We don't need to shift pages on Commons do we? We just need to shift them here with one of Mpaa's bot runs. Or is it images that will have the wrong name between 155 and 272? An alternative is to just transclude the image into the right place in the mainspace and not worry too much about the Index sequence. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. My preference is to fix the original. D271 and D272 should be D153 and D154 and left a message for Mpaa.— Ineuw talk 19:21, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Auto-block[edit]

My account was compromised during my absence - enable an indef block to prevent further damage to wiki projects. Thanks for collaborating. --BScMScMD (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Move request[edit]

Need moves as under:

  1. The Home and the World/Chapter 3 to The Home and the World/Chapter 3/Bimala's Story (after deleting existing page at destination)
  2. After move, replacement of content by content at The Home and the World/Chapter 3/Bimala's Story Temp
  3. Followed by deletion of the temp page

This is required to keep the edit history of the original chapter 3 page, which was contributed to by other editors in the past.

With thanks, Hrishikes (talk) 06:53, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:35, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to disturb, but need another move. Pages at Index:On the Change of Conductivity of Metallic Particles under Cyclic Electromotive Variation.djvu need to be moved to Index:Collected Physical Papers.djvu. I had started, then remembered your advice. Hrishikes (talk) 05:34, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:11, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


License Information[edit]

Beeswaxcandle, you put some add-license tag on top of a translation I did. What am I supposed to put on the page if the original work is in the public domain and if I'd like my translation to be in the public domain? That's the case with the poem.Paperpencils

All works hosted here must have license details. Works without license details can be deleted. Translations need two licenses, one for the original work and one for the translation. Please see Help:Copyright tags#Translations & Help:Beginner's guide to copyright#Special notes. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:54, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

POTM April[edit]

In case you need it: http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/3403 .— Mpaa (talk) 16:16, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:17, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
While I am at it, POTM May: http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/3424.— Mpaa (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Using a bot to mass-populate Vols. 35-36 in the Southern Historical Society series[edit]

Hi and a belated "thank you" for your welcome-post when I joined wikisource last fall. I've been working with user Maury on the Southern Historical Society series and had a technical question. Is it possible to use (or resurrect) a bot that would populate the pages of a volume in the series with text from an updated djvu file that I upload to commons? I've been working on a script to unhyphenate the text, including cross-page hyphenations, in a wiki-compatible way. I thought I'd keep my question simple, but if you're curious, you can see the details on my talk page. Dictioneer (talk) 14:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC) ps: I’ve also posted a similar query with user AdamBMorgan, but I understand that at the moment he has little time to devote to the project.

OK, what needs to happen is that the "pink" pages on Volume 35 need to be deleted to allow the new text layer to show up. To show what I mean, I've just manually deleted Page:Southern Historical Society Papers volume 35.djvu/33. Now, your revised text layer shows up. However, when I look at it there are paragraphing problems. We need to have two "carriage return" characters to mark paragraphs. Otherwise they will transclude as a single flow of text. I think this needs fixing before we go to the step of deleting the current versions.

For the step of getting a bot to do the needed tasks, you need to place a request on the Bot requests page and one of the bot owners who has the delete page permission will do a run. The criteria I suggest are a) page status = NotProofread; and b) only one editor (LA2-bot). This will prevent deletion of non-bot contributions. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:24, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I’ve attempted to implement your suggestions and re-uploaded Vol. 35. I’ve test-loaded but haven’t saved p. 33, so if you go back to Page:Southern Historical Society Papers volume 35.djvu/33, you’ll see the revised text emitted, hopefully per your spec. Further suggestions are welcome, either here or on my talk page. Thanks for the information, and I promise I’m not trying to drag you into this project, but since you had specific technical suggestions it would be helpful to me to know if I have correctly interpreted them. Once I get a green light from you I will upload again and put the suggested message on the suggested page. I have also responsed to you on my talk page, but don’t feel like you need to continue that conversation unless it interests you. Dictioneer (talk) 14:05, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
Answered on your talk page. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:34, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Umm: April POTM?[edit]

Hi. You might want to delete this revision after reading to save embarrassment.

Was "Proofred of the Month" a deliberate play on words perhaps (instead of Proofread&c.?) I believe all of Aphillipsmusique, BD2412, Beleg Tâl/Userboxes, Billinghurst/awards, Bradype, Carriearchdale, DutchTreat, Einstein95, EncycloPetey, Erasmo Barresi, FALVES, George Orwell III, GreyHead, Hazmat2, Highlandpark1, Hrishikes, Jimregan, Kathleen.wright5, Keith Edkins, Legofan94, M-le-mot-dit, MartinPoulter, Michael Barera, Nonexyst, Pathore, Prtksxna, Rochefoucauld, Samwilson, Siddhant, Slowking4, Tar-ba-gan, WhatamIdoing, William Maury Morris II, Wurstmaster, Xaviersc and Zhaladshar are affected. AuFCL (talk) 10:03, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Fixed (all hopefully).— Mpaa (talk) 15:50, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

" You have Mail ! "[edit]

I sent a private mail to you. Please check on it. —Maury (talk) 15:19, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Nothing's turned up in either the inbox or the junk folder. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:58, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm, well that's okay. The Riders of the Pony Express told me they met a huge body of water (flash flood?) on the way there anyhow so they turned back. —Maury (talk) 02:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
Ah, but as we know—the Pony Express always gets through. And indeed they now have. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:49, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
True, he waited for the tide to go out and crossed over the big pond on a flat-bottom raft while still sitting on his horse. I was informed of this last night via an undersea telegraph. —Maury (talk) 16:34, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Beeswaxcandle, young fellow, (pretty) please validate these few pages, easy, only about 34 pages and short. Validation will make it a completed work. —Maury (talk) 17:07, 16 May 2015 (UTC) Maury

    • Thank you so much for validating those pages. As a return favour I validated a good number of your pages in about 3 or 4 books including Doctor Thorne. Kindest regards good man, —Maury (talk) 08:54, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Travels in the Levant[edit]

I hadn't attempted to link them, I put the main text ones as {{sup}} and formated the block at the end as a semi-list IIRC.

You should therefore be free to implement an approproate scheme. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:43, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

#REDIRECT[edit]

Thanks for the explanation --Historiador1923 (talk) 02:44, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

About Jeeves[edit]

Hi, why did you remove the links before the discussion was over? Why such a tearing hurry? I have uploaded the file here. See page 7 of Index:Right Ho, Jeeves.djvu and also the page http://www.gutenberg.org/files/10554/10554-h/10554-h.htm before taking decision. If you are still dissatisfied, you are welcome to delete the file. Hrishikes (talk) 04:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I removed the links because they are spurious. I'm not in a tearing hurry, simply performing my duties as a Wikisource administrator. One of those duties is to uphold the copyright policy. I have already looked at those items and have done my own research, including consultation of the reference books in my personal library. There is simply no way that the apparent dates in those scans are correct. Somewhere there has been manipulation. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Deleting is your prerogative as admin; I have nothing to say in that matter. I had added the work in good faith and I don't have the knowledge or research capability of your caliber. However now I see that the 1922 reference is also available at many places on the net, e.g., 1 (The New York Public Library Literature Companion, under My Man Jeeves), 2, 3. So, seems to me that there is a controversy here. Anyway, no need to reply; this also ends the discussion. Hrishikes (talk) 05:24, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Looking for a Wikisource list[edit]

Hi. I've uploaded & installed some new .djvu works, and I am sure we have a list of new works somewhere where I can/should list it, but can't find it. Could you point the way please?— Ineuw talk 05:55, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

There's nowhere to list incomplete Index: pages, other than the automatic Category. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:16, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, the Category is fine. — Ineuw talk 17:50, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Index:The Rival Pitchers.djvu[edit]

Beez, I hope that I did not annoy you when you were working on this book. I am aware I surfaced immediately behind you but that wasn't intended. Anyhow when I saw you I went in the opposite direction validating your pages. My very kindest regards to a very good person, —Maury (talk) 08:07, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

No worries. I've been flicking between several books at the same time. I seem to get more done that way. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
I think several of us do that. It is what I was doing when I saw a page of your book. I believe Ineuw does the same thing, or at least he used to. Perhaps the best way is to work on a complex book and then an easy and casual work. —Maury (talk) 08:37, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Match and Split doesn't really work for EB[edit]

hi, i see your update to the EB1911 index status. but really for volume 26, 27 ? i was thinking "Source file problem" was more appropriate, until the index size issues are resolved. Slowking4Farmbrough's revenge 14:52, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I've no problem with that status for those two volumes, I was more focused on clearing out the apparent backlog on Match and Split. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:55, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrol[edit]

Thank you. :) Green Giant (talk) 11:20, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Mentoring needed[edit]

Hi, Thanks for your welcome last spring. I migrated over from Distributed Proofreaders and have been proofreading-started with Popular Science and have added some philosophical works to the stable. Just finished Treatise of Human Nature, yeah. I have been embarrassed to be told that I am a terrific proofreader. Not so, just well-trained. What I think I am better at than most is picking up how wiki works but I still have a lot to learn and feel obliged to try to do something about the (written) Help (which hasn’t helped me much) because I think there would be a lot of trained proofreaders at DP who would get a lot out of proofreading at Wikisource if the transition could be made easy. And their bottleneck is "post-production" and wiki-ing could help get their proofreaders into that …

Anyway, I’m contacting you specifically because my Mum lives in Auckland (North Shore) and we’re staying the first week of the school holidays (27 Sept-) and I’ve decided to try and meet some Wikipedeans while there and found out you were in the area (still with me?). So are you sociable? I’m not much in to chit chat, would like to talk about Wikisource and what it’s about and/or some help to overcome my fear of templates/programming/stuff. Or are there meetings that happen? Any contact (with anyone) would be great, Zoeannl (talk) 10:40, 21 July 2015 (UTC) (from Hawkes Bay)

I had wondered if you were local. I'd be happy to converse and/or meet up when you come up. My email link (in the tools) is active, why don't you send me a message via that and then we can sort something out in RL? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:51, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I tried emailing, pushed the button to get an email to myself but haven’t received it. Did you get it? Zoeannl (talk) 01:30, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I've not received anything. Did you use the "Email this user" in the tools section of this page? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Tested out of curiosity. —Maury (talk) 06:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
It was from this page and it said to Beeswaxcandle from zoeannl… I’ll have another go. Zoeannl (talk) 08:17, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
I know it was this page. I saw it and I think it would be wonderful if you and Beeswaxcadle could get together. Here I am thousands of miles away and you two in New Zealand can't get together. Even I have communicated with ""Beez" and I am in the USA. He invited me to his birthday party there! You should really try to connect with him because "Beez" is a nice person, smart, and helpful. He always has been for *years* with me. Try to send me a test mail to me or better yet I will try to send you one that that you can try to respond to. My real name is as I sign it. Use ~ 4 times to sign your name on Wikisource. —Maury (talk) 05:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

July POTM awards[edit]

Beez, are you going to do the July POTM awards? Kind regards, —Maury (talk) 12:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but as the July awards are quite complex I need to have the brain-space to deal with them. I think I'll do them at the same time as August. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:36, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Treasury of War Poetry[edit]

Some time ago you had mentioned that you were prompted to validate the TWP because AdamBMorgan had possible plans for it in the future. Do you remember what those plans were? I would ask on his Talk page, but he has been away for a time. Just curious, Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:05, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

We were talking about having a "Poem of the Day" on the Mainpage, and I was thinking to use some of the poems from TWP on the 100th anniversary of writing them. Unfortunately, the idea didn't leave the thinking-board. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Ohkay. I remember talk about having a Poem of the Day, but was not aware that the two were necessarily related. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Merge your page tools into Wikisource:TemplateScript?[edit]

Hi Beeswaxcandle. In September 2014 I created MediaWiki:TemplateScript/pagetools.js based on your page scripts in User:Beeswaxcandle/common.js. This is part of Wikisource:TemplateScript, which aims to avoid users copying scripts verbatim into their own common.js, where they're no longer maintained. It collects useful scripts into one place so anyone can use them with a few lines like this:

/***
 * Add several tools useful when proofreading pages in the Page: namespace.
 * @see [[Wikisource:TemplateScript]]
 */
mw.loader.load('//en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:TemplateScript/pagetools-config.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');

Unfortunately the two versions then drifted apart — you continued developing your common.js, and pagetools.js was refactored to simplify the scripts using newer TemplateScript features. What do you think of merging your changes into MediaWiki:TemplateScript/pagetools.js and maintaining that instead? (I could take care of the merge.) —Pathoschild 02:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I've made any changes to the scripts, or have I? Most of my edits of common.js are to set up (or adjust) running headers for works I'm proofreading. By all means, if there are changes other than those then go ahead and merge. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:44, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Formatting opinion[edit]

I am thinking about picking up this seemingly abandoned text and adjusting poetry formatting as I validate/proofread. Much (if not all) of the poetry, however, is not block-centered, and I am very tempted to make it so. Can I please get your opinion as to whether I should keep the poetry to the left, as here, and if so, what formatting should I use? [ Another sampling of formatting ] Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:18, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

The punctuation needs hanging in the Brooke example anyway, so you might as well block-center at the same time. I personally find poetry that's blocked on the left leaves too much whitespace on the page/screen. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. Thanks for taking a look, Londonjackbooks (talk) 21:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Is this where I go to answer? I have no idea how to do whatever that is. Computer is difficult enough!

Mr. or Ms. Beeswax:

According to this:

http://www.robert-e-howard.org/anotherthought4rerevised.html

All those listed works have been in public domain since 2007. Is this sufficient, or do I have to "lawyer up"?

Your valued opinion is requested[edit]

Hi. Please look at this page where the intent is to add anchored links to the target pages. Your opinion, guidance, and comments would be much appreciated. Also, is there any project in WS where a similar complex index with anchors was implemented? — Ineuw talk 01:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at Page:Ante-Nicene Fathers volume 1.djvu/509 ff. Once the validation of the pages of the index had been done, I put in a Bot Request, which Mpaa responded to and did the magic stuff. It's essential that the pages are proofread and validated before doing any automatic link creation. If the page numbers are wrong, then the link will be to the wrong page/chapter and that's not easy to sort out (from experience once). The index in the later volumes of ANCL haven't been validated, so they are yet to have links created. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:57, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Or A History of Mathematics/Index. Painful, done entirely manually (with aid of scrap paper notes if I recall.) Not even an observation on Canadian LMF. AuFCL (talk) 07:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
If you first make a page like User:Hesperian/i, and take the trouble to get it right, then all you have to do is wrap each page number in {{subst:User:Hesperian/i| }}, and you can be sure of getting all well-formed correctly targetted links when you hit save. Hesperian 11:15, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
There are heaps of such works where we have added page linked indices, even had them as featured texts. Maybe not as many pages. You can have a look at user talk:Phe to see those that I have had done and BWC's point of proofread and validated is emphasised by Phe. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
Really appreciate all this input and examples. Checked them all, but decided to give User:Gumr51 the option to choose what style he wants to follow and will lend him a hand to accomplish it. — Ineuw talk 19:38, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
I'll second Hesperian's technique. I believe I used it for the TWP on recommendation, and it made things so much simpler! Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
If you use Hesperian's methodology, then you can utilise the regex editor (available as a gadget) to wrap the page numbers, and I am happy to assist people to show them how. With the new regex editor you can even save your regex and reuse them as a framework. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the offer of help, I will contact you as soon as I learn which style Gumr51 prefers to tackle. As for the Regex search & replace, it exists in the common.js pointing to Pathoschild's script from my common.js. mw.loader.load('//tools-static.wmflabs.org/meta/scripts/pathoschild.templatescript.js');. Am I to assume that the old Regex editor in the gadgets have been upgraded to this new version? — Ineuw talk 02:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes m:TemplateScript. apologies to BWC for the muddy footprints on his talk pagebillinghurst sDrewth 03:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)