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Consistency: Collective work link[edit]

In {{Collective work link}}, I am wondering what you found inconsistent about the period. Many times I and others put comments after the citation, and they look a little awkward now without the period. See, for example, William Wallace. I think that template had a period for an awful long time, and I would appreciate it if it could be restored. Library Guy (talk) 17:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Author pages have generally not had the use of terminating periods, hence there was inconsistency. I have added a comment field to {{EB1911 link}} and this will add your terminating period when you have an additional comment. I will run my bot through and grab all comments into the templates. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:54, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Library Guy (talk) 18:15, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

I have seen two styles in author page citations. There is the style that terminates with a year in parentheses (no period). There is another style that imitates the "Cite" style in Wikipedia, which does terminate with a period. I still can see no basis for your claim. Library Guy (talk) 18:50, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
That you have found inconsistency does not surprise me. We fix as we go. If you can identify other templates that need fixing then please identify them to me. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:46, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-05[edit]

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16:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-06[edit]

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Problems

  • There was a security issue on Wikimedia Labs. Many Labs tools were down after the issue was fixed. [5]

Software changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since January 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 3. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 4 (calendar).
  • The "Save page" button in the VisualEditor toolbar is now blue rather than green. This is the same as on the mobile site. [6]
  • You can now edit pages on the draft namespace with VisualEditor on the Russian Wikipedia and Hebrew Wikipedia. You can ask to get VisualEditor for a namespace on your wiki. When your community agrees, ask in Phabricator. [7] [8]

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16:31, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-07[edit]

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Problems

  • MediaWiki was reverted to the previous version on February 4. It was because of a performance issue. It was restored later. [10]
  • UploadWizard was broken on February 4 because of the revert of MediaWiki. [11]
  • All sites were broken for 30 minutes on February 5. It was due to a network problem. [12]

Software changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 5. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 10. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 11 (calendar).
  • You can have one user page for all wikis. Your Meta user page will show if you don't have a user page on a wiki. You can test this tool on test wikis. [13] [14] [15]
  • You can search for media files in VisualEditor more easily. Images are bigger and you see the size and license. [16] [17]
  • It is easier to review your changes when you save the page in VisualEditor. The window is wider. [18]
  • You can read the latest news about VisualEditor. You can now join weekly meetings with developers. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The first meeting is on February 11 at 20:00 (UTC).

Future changes

  • Administrators will soon be able to delete change tags used fewer than 5,000 times. [19]
  • In the future you will be able to have personal lists of articles on the mobile site. [20]

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16:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for the style guide. That's exactly the page I needed. Still very new here. Thanks again. - Beelerb (talk) 13:54, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Spaces before ellipses[edit]

Hello. Administrator Beeswaxcandle, who validated many pages of the book I’ve worked on, adds a space before every …, while You don’t. You have to reach some agreement in order not to make book look unarranged. Nonexyst (talk) 15:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I've set them with spaces because they are breaks in thought, rather than representing omitted words. Ellipses of omission should be unspaced, those for breaks of thought should be spaced as in the original text. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
It is consistent throughout the book now.--Mpaa (talk) 19:45, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-08[edit]

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Software changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 17. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 18 (calendar).
  • On Wednesday your Meta user page will be shown if you don't have a user page on a wiki. [21] [22] [23]
  • You can now change the order of categories in VisualEditor using drag-and-drop. [24]
  • In VisualEditor, you now need to make a change before you can "Apply Changes" to citations and templates. [25]
  • The way the cursor moves in VisualEditor is changing. Your browser now handles the cursor directly. Most of you will see no change. In right-to-left text, the cursor now moves in a 'visible' rather than 'logical' way. This is like other sites but you may be surprised at first.​ [26]

Meetings

  • The VisualEditor Team had their first public bug triage meeting on February 11. They will post the results on the meeting page. [27]
  • You can join the second weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on February 18 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join. [28]
  • You can join a meeting with the developers of the Content Translation tool. It will be on February 18 at 13:00 (UTC). [29]

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17:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

I appreciate the welcome. One question, if you don't mind, at your leisure: I feel I'd most like to do (and be best at) is doing raw transcription. But it's unclear to me whether there's a central place for this, or whether perhaps 99% of works are being OCRed in at this point.

Additionally, I see some incomplete works that aren't set up in the color-coded system, and am unsure what to make of that.

What areas do you think would benefit most from gruntwork from a rookie? I'd be happy to pitch in. (I don't feel I know enough, yet, to really jump into dealing with DjVu, creating index pages, etc. at this point...) Woodshed (talk) 06:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

@Woodshed: Usually best place for a newbie to see what and how we do things is Wikisource:Proofread of the Month and tag along with our shared work. If you are looking at typing works for yourself, then we have the US NARA records, or you could look to do some validation on proofread once works, eg. Category:Index proofread. We want to find works that suit your interests, so maybe you can give some indication of what are your interests then we can point you in the right direction or work with them. Again welcome, great to have you on board. To also note that we have a community that is willing to assist, and WS:S and WS:Scriptorium/Help are very responsive. [@Beeswaxcandle, Ineuw, William Maury Morris: you might have some ability to assist or suggest.] — billinghurst sDrewth 13:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Upload fails[edit]

Hello. I thought I'd give uploading this document a go, but only managed to produce the Google project page. Any chance you could give me a hand with it? All the best --Andreas Philopater (talk) 01:24, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Andreas Philopater: Personally I would check archive.org first, as they often have better quality scans already ready to go. Otherwise to do it manually you would have to download the pdf, then upload to commons. There is a tool setup to make it easier and you can find and access it at toollabs:bub/, it may take a little longer, that doing it manually. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I had checked archive.org, but I'll look into the tool. --Andreas Philopater (talk) 10:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
@Andreas Philopater: Yes check.svg Done : Index:The Political State of Europe for the Year MDCCXCII.djvu Hrishikes (talk) 07:58, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons update[edit]

Greetings,

After a delay in updates to the Structured data on Commons project, I wanted to catch you up with what has been going on over the past three months. In short: The project is on hold, but that doesn't mean nothing is happening.

The meeting in Berlin in October provided the engineering teams with a lot to start on. Unfortunately the Structured Data on Commons project was put on hold not too long after this meeting. Development of the actual Structured data system for Commons will not begin until more resources can be allocated to it.

The Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Germany have been working to improve the Wikidata query process on the back-end. This is designed to be a production-grade replacement of WikidataQuery integrated with search. The full project is described at Mediawiki.org.This will benefit the structured data project greatly since developing a high-level search for Commons is a desired goal of this project.

The Wikidata development team is working on the arbitrary access feature. Currently it's only possible to access items that are connected to the current page. So for example on Vincent van Gogh you can access the statements on Q5582, but you can't access these statements on Category:Vincent van Gogh or Creator:Vincent van Gogh. With arbitrary access enabled on Commons we no longer have this limitation. This opens up the possibility to use Wikidata data on Creator, Institution, Authority control and other templates instead of duplicating the data (what we do now). This will greatly enhance the usefulness of Wikidata for Commons.

To use the full potential of arbitrary access the Commons community needs to reimplement several templates in LUA. In LUA it's possible to use the local fields and fallback to Wikidata if it's not locally available. Help with this conversion is greatly appreciated. The different tasks are tracked in phabricator, see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89594 .

Volunteers are continuing to add data about artworks to Wikidata. Sometimes an institution website is used and sometimes data is being transfered from Commons to Wikidata. Wikidata now has almost 35.000 items about paintings. This is done as part of the WikiProject sum of all paintings. This helps us to learn how to d:Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts/Item structuremodel and refine metadata about artworks. Experience that will of course be very useful for Commons too.

Additionally, the metadata cleanup drive continues to produce results. The drive, which is intended to identify files missing {{information}} or the like structured data fields and to add such fields when absent, has reduced the number of files missing information by almost 100,000 on Commons. You can help by looking for files with similarly-formatted description pages, and listing them at Commons:Bots/Work requests so that a bot can add the {{information}} template on them.

At the Amsterdam Hackathon in November 2014, a couple of different models were developed about how artwork can be viewed on the web using structured data from Wikidata. You can browse two examples here and here. These examples can give you an idea of the kind of data that file pages have the potential to display on-wiki in the future.

The Structured Data project is a long-term one, and the volunteers and staff will continue working together to provide the structure and support in the back-end toward front-end development. There are still many things to do to help advance the project, and I hope to have more news for you in the near future. Contact me any time with questions, comments, concerns.

-- User:Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:46, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Userpage deletion[edit]

Hello. Could you please delete my userpage (for GlobalUserPage's display)? Thanks. Hausratte (talk) 22:44, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done — billinghurst sDrewth 07:36, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Global user pages and our local PotM awards[edit]

Hi, any thoughts on how we should manage the PotM awards in conjunction with the new Global user pages that people seem to be rushing towards? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:43, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

No, I don't have an immediate answer to how the local community can keep adding the Proofread of the Month award to user pages in conjunction with a global user page. /me prods @Legoktm: to see if he has had any thoughts about this, and not sure that it entered into his considerations when he did the design. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:38, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Billinghurst, can you remember who suggested the "awards" for works done? In the background there was a historical reminder of why Napoleon gave out so many medals. —Maury (talk) 16:44, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
They weren't suggested, I just did them. They are a celebration for participation back when PotM was not enjoying wide participation. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
I remember that one of Napoleon's staff officers asked Napoleon why he gave out so many medals. In reply, Napoleon stated that one medal was worth 10,000 fighting men. The reason was each man would seek out a Napoleonic medal--or several of them. Thus their obedience, hopes for higher rank and/or pay, risks, -- all possible endeavors were increased. —Maury (talk) 10:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Task (publishers)[edit]

Sql query to look at publisher fields of works in the Index: ns to see what we can and should link to portal namespace. Also to look at the progression of companies through iterations of name histories. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:31, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Blocked IP[edit]

Hi, I see you recently blocked 172.56.0.0/16, without permitting logged-in users to get around the block, with the reason "crosswiki lta." This range (or at least my part of it) is the U.S. cell phone provider T-Mobile. So it presumably includes a huge number of users. Any issue with changing it to permit edits from logged-in users? I don't know how bad the abuse was, but it seems natural to expect a great deal of abuse from a major ISP - along with a (hopefully much) greater deal of beneficial contribution. Thoughts? -Pete (talk) 01:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

@Peteforsyth: There were no users in the range bar our vandal. The issue with anonymous only is that this user creates accounts on other wikis then comes to vandalise. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:54, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Please understand, I'm not criticizing your decision, just trying to offer up new information. I have certainly made non-vandalism edits from that service, under my account, but it's possible T-Mobile has switched its IP ranges around since I did. T-Mobile is one of the four major mobile phone service providers in the USA, and with many phones and tablets offers free tethering -- I know people who have given up their home Internet in favor of tethering to their phones. Also, there are recently expanded editing capabilities in WMF mobile apps. With all this in mind, it seems worthwhile to consider lifting the block for logged-in users; I realize that I can't see the scale of the vandalism, so I am not as confident in my conclusion as I could be, but I just want to be sure you have all relevant info available, and I hope you'll reconsider. -Pete (talk) 17:53, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-09[edit]

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Software changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 18. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from February 25. It will be on all Wikipedias from February 26 (calendar).
  • It is now easier to see template fields in VisualEditor. The fields are bigger. [34]
  • It is now easier to see when a button is disabled in VisualEditor. [35]
  • Sometimes when you copy-pasted a template in VisualEditor, it was replaced by HTML. This problem is now fixed. [36]
  • Tools in Labs will stop working for a few hours on February 24. [37]

Meetings

  • You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on February 26 at 00:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • At the moment you need to log in to edit Wikimedia wikis on mobile devices. You can say if anyone should be allowed to edit on the mobile sites. The discussion ends on March 15.
  • Images in the interface will soon work better in Opera 12. [38]

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16:28, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-10[edit]

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Recent software changes

  • A Lua function to use Wikidata has changed. You need to update the pages that use it. [39]
  • You can use the Content Translation tool on Wikipedia in Uzbek and Minangkabau. You need to enable it in your Beta options.
  • You can now hide banners if you don't have an account. [40] [41]

Software changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since February 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from March 3. It will be on all Wikipedias from March 4 (calendar).
  • You can use the Content Translation tool on Wikipedia in Punjabi and Kyrgyz. You can ask for the tool in other languages.
  • Editing the fake blank line in VisualEditor is now simpler. This change also fixed a few bugs. [42] [43] [44] [45]
  • The TemplateData editor now warns you if a related page already has TemplateData. [46]
  • The TemplateData table now tells you if a template doesn't take any parameters. [47]

Meetings

  • You can read the notes from the last meeting with the VisualEditor team.
  • You can join the next weekly meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on March 4 at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join technical meetings in France and Mexico this year. You will be able to ask for help if you can't pay yourself. [48]

Future changes

  • You will be able to get a direct link for a section of a page. [49]

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16:41, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

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