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Wikisource has a number of active Wikiprojects that could use
your help in tackling these large additions to our library.

New Student's Reference Work Project
Work: New Student's Reference Work

TO DO — DNB footer initials

billinghurst sDrewth 12:42, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania

Note to self and anyone else interested.

Category:Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania should it be a portal too? If yes, we really need a means to autopopulate (minor) portals so we do not have do lots of work in that space.

If it is not, we need to look to adapt {{authority control}} so it can be utilised with arbitrary access to WD so AC can be filled on such a page. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:26, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

To review

billinghurst sDrewth 12:35, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

template:OGL needs an author: ns version created for use. Currently only has works version.

header WP links and the use of main subject at WD

have a check to see that where we have (encyclopaedic) pages in main namespace that link wikipedia = through header, that these items at wikidata may or may not have "main subject" wikilink. Can or should we be pulling that link via WD to manage deleted and moved items, and also be prepared for any item that has a future wp link. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:35, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Category:Authors with missing death dates -> Category:Authors without death dates

explore making this change. They are not missing if they are not dead, so we should cater for both scenarios without confusing things. Only would be missing of the person is alive 130 years after death. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:43, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Contributing translator -> header template

(parking) See if we should plug in a parameter so something like Popular Science Monthly/Volume 3/September 1873/Hypnotism in Animals I can properly represent the translator. Otherwise we can have it as a note as we do for {{illustrator}}. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done section_translatorbillinghurst sDrewth 12:12, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

link templates — to build

billinghurst sDrewth 23:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

convert template:NIE to template:header

convert template:NIE to template:header

Files to recover from Commons

Author disambiguations

consider disambig Palestine Mandate

monobook toolbar again

Have another look at it and see if I can get it functioning. fr:Special:Gadgets <sigh> — billinghurst sDrewth 01:43, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

template:DNB link

Consider with the anchor feature whether it should project the name and state that it is part of a parent article. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:19, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

write proposal to remove "categories"

  • use of this methodology overrides redirect and disambiguation aspects of templates and hotcat
  • makes maintenance harder with pywikibot, AWB and HotCat
  • put in a tracker on use
  • non-standard and should be avoided unless part of a standard
Yes check.svg Done and resolved. Use of category in header can be replaced. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Review templates due to name conflict

Clean up to do History of Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob

  • mv text to header
  • rm "EM"
  • replacement /\<br \/\>/g
  • cleanup script
  • note to editor
  • consider if scripts are required for other NLS works, and either do or document the AWB actions

Categorisation to fix

To do: hard to soft redirects

Special:prefixindex/Proletarskaya Kul'tura

and continue the conversation that special:prefixindex/Translation:Proletarskaya Kul'tura should be under the root page.

Yes check.svg Done primary task — billinghurst sDrewth 11:36, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

To do: The Dictionary of Australasian Biography

  • Consider whether we want to migrate to its own header series Yes check.svg Done
  • review wikipedia and wikidata linking Yes check.svg Done => {{topicmatcher}} implemented
  • Check readiness to export

Category:Acts of Thai legislature by name

Hello, these categories should be unified, though I don't know if they should all use a slash or a hyphen. To me, the slash seems more natural, though Category:Authors by alphabetical order uses the hyphen. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 23:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Any opinion on this? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 13:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4: Categories have subpages per this, so the slash should only be reserved in its use. Yes those categories need standardising, though they belong in a larger corpus of thought, and I have other categorisation that needs to get fixed first. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:41, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

volume issues, Popular Science, etc

I had this same problem with another set of rebounded issues, so I think it is not limited to Popular Science Monthly/Volume 1. Probably the original indexes were on the "lost to the material world" covers.

I have set the "struts" at Q20873000 for Volume 1. And filled out the May issue at Q105323531. My problem is that I want to put a wsource link to this at wdata but none exists. It would go at Popular Science Monthly/Volume 1/May 1872 and would require the pasting of the index part from the Main page and futzing with the previous and next of the affected navigation.

What I did with another journal was to recreate the index on a blank page in the Page namespace so it could be transcluded with the rest of the issue. I could do the same here, as it will be used twice.

For 2009 work, it is pretty nice.

Also, a different (but somewhat related) item. Have you seen the 1960s original Star Trek as it was renovated for bluray? It started life on film so cleaning was easier. The groovy 60s colors were incredible on the new millennia screen. I mention it now because of this great thing they did. While viewing it you can flip between a cgi updated version (mostly it was the ship that they doctored) or the renovated original. Its that option to switch between original and modernized that makes me mention it now; an attempt by me to share a mindset.

Thanks for your time.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. Personally I don't do any creations of volumes of journals at Wikidata. I see little value in it. I have zero issue making references to works at WD, and I think volume level references are just more likely to confuse things than help things. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:38, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Sorry. As author of the redirect I thought you might take issue.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 22:03, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I am still none the wiser, please be specific. {PS. Don't make anyone have to dig through someone's contributions to work things out.] — billinghurst sDrewth 22:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Popular Science Monthly/Volume 1/May 1872 I haven't done anything yet. To get to that page so you can see your name in its history, you will have to scroll up to find the redirect link. Changing those redirects is next on my list. I think (but do not yet know) that with the toc there, the single issue can be exported to epub, mobi or txt. Without it there, it is the whole volume only for ereaders.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 23:44, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
If you are asking whether pages like the redirects at Popular Science Monthly/Volume 1/May 1872 can be converted into per issue ToC, then sure. I am guessing that they had been left as redlinks back then. Don't expect me to remember. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-06

17:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-07

17:56, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Deletion - try again?

Hi, thank you for your fulfillment of my deletion request. However, what I was after was to delete the page including subpages. I mistakenly ran a Match & Split prior to confirming that all pages were present...and I was burned for my haste. (I've since repaired the underlying DJVU file.) Could you recreate and re-delete? -Pete (talk) 23:11, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

I random checked subpages against the text and they seem to be suitably accurate and any fixes would be done in proofreading. Which pages are you seeing as problematic that require deletion?
As stated in the original request, it's every page from about 60 up. Either delete just those, or delete all of them (I can perform the match & split again, so it's really no loss if you delete them all). Thanks. -Pete (talk) 02:32, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
@Peteforsyth: Oh, you hadn't upgraded the image file. When you rematch, you will notice some of the end words have missed. We/you could have moved them FWIW, but deleting is possible too. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't quite follow – you mean some of the words at the page breaks are misplaced? I usually fix that stuff manually, but if you have any clever regex patterns to share, I'd be much obliged. -Pete (talk) 03:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
As for moving vs. replacing, my reasoning…and maybe I missed something… is this: moving would require either doing several hundred individual moves, or some clever custom coding; but deleting, for an admin, should be possible just by clicking a checkbox to delete subpages. And a new match/split takes almost no (human) time. Is there an option I overlooked? -Pete (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Moving would be a pretty simple script to write for pywikibot, and we could get a bot to do it without rights changes; just start at the end. and work back, one move per page when it is a static number of pages to migrate. Deletion of subpages is unfortunately not the case of a checkbox, it is a build a list and add to a frontend page, a change of rights, run the deletes. I misjudged how long it would take and did a little flood of RC. Anyway, all done. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah. Sounds like I made a bigger mess than I realized. Thank you for taking the time, and I'll avoid repeating that. -Pete (talk) 04:52, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Meh, shit happens at times. We have all been there, done that. Having been there more than once, I now have a better understanding of better cleanup. Just sometimes takes time to get the right access for the right fix. Don't overly worry about it, just give us the best info, and a little time to fix. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


Convert works in special:Prefixindex/Dictionary of Indian Biography/ from {{header}} to {{IndianBio}}.

This edit [10] removed the transclusion. Attention drawn to it by IP adding text to page. Haven't checked to see what it did with other pages, as RL calls. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 16:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Beeswaxcandle. Seems that {{SUBPAGENAME}} encodes (inconveniently) the semi-colon to the w:HTML entity Singrauli, Raja of&#59; Rudra Pratap Singh. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Run through all IndianBio subpages, find where semi-colon is in pagename, and add parameter onlysection = (with hard section name) to template.
  • Fix all the feral WD additions (may need to set overwrite)
    1. Fix title to be subpage, not rubbish pagename (better allow main topic match in {{topicmatcher}})
    2. Add description article in The Indian Biographical Dictionary
    3. add author Conjeeveram Hayavadana Rao (Q5006515)
    4. add published in The Indian Biographical Dictionary (Q16009531), then qualify with page(s) (P304), and from template "from -40", "to -40" (if different)

Tech News: 2021-08

00:17, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

My recent doc

As you saw as you replied I have uploaded and moved the short interview paper through to needing validation. I have to travel tomorrow and should have but cannot garuntee a wifi connection where i am going. Just hoping you could watch it and if anything comes up in validation I am fine with your judgement if I cannot be online. Cheers Scott Thomson (Faendalimas) talk 02:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I have transcluded the article, added to author pages, and linked to the WD item. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-09

19:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

redundancy vs. described by source

@Billinghurst: I just completed a scientific text at wikidata where each item had its own page and therefore could be added to the wikimedia collection at the "main subject" via "described by source". Not unlike the author and encyclopedia links that you were instrumental in putting there. If evolution is positive, those links might eventually make it to the wikipedia page.

I was going to do the same with some taxonomy, but this text doesn't have the luxury of the single item per page, and I found myself (almost) recreating a page that had been deleted due to redundancy.

Meanwhile, I find it interesting in a sad way, that wikivoyage made it to the w:en:Moon before wikisource did. And, when ws did finally make it there, it was in a broken, sad way. I am hopeful that wikisource can make it to Jupiter before wikivoyage does, but the "rules" will need to change some.

Wikidata items for categories are just stupid reflections of each other, like lolcats of lolcats -- if I might be allowed an unasked for opinion. It is a shame that, because it could have been a swift solution to the portal problem (see the previous paragraph).

I am here asking that I be allowed to restore a previously deleted redundancy (in the name of taxonomy) and that the redundancy rule be rewritten to exclude those redundancies that have a wikidata association.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 13:50, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

If you are talking WD policy, then this is the wrong place for that discussion. I think, but cannot be sure that you are having some discussion about aligning like Category: crosswiki; that is WD policy, and they have other means to apply links from topic and lists to those corresponding categories. ,Otherwise, I have no idea about what you are discussing. For us portals usually align with subjects that are encyclopaedia, as typically we have no overlap between portal: and author: nss. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:37, 4 March 2021 (UTC)