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Bulk moves[edit]

Hi. Generally we would request that if bulk moves of a work and its subpages are required that you ask an admin, as they can do the all in one fell swoop, and not have to clean up redirects of subpages. Thanks. 23:27, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Ivanhoe for young readers is not disambiguation[edit]

Hi. We would not normally disambiguate a work as you have done. If it is not called "Ivanhoe" in any normal sense, then it is not a disambiguation, it is just a like name. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:45, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Help:Disambiguationbillinghurst sDrewth 04:46, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
@Billinghurst:I went through this with EPetey about Shakespeare and Canterbury Tales, etc. Charles Lambs version of Cymbeline (for example) caused a disambiguation.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 04:53, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
Disambiguation is for where works are of the same name, or they are abbreviated in common usage to the same name, it is not for works that have the word or similar names; and this mirrors enWP's approach. If we have broader approach we are going to be dead in the water. For the interpretative work of Ivanhoe, I see that would belong in the WORKS ABOUT section of Ivanhoe's author, and you may consider something in the notes field if it is truly notable in its own sense.

I see Cymbeline as a page disambiguated for other reasons. I don't know enough of how people refer to Shakespeare's original so cannot comment whether it belongs on the page or not. "Canterbury Tales" is redirect to a versions page, so that is different again, that comes back to a base work with whichever names exist. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I feel like I promised to take care of it after Inductive moved it but now I don't have to worry about it. I'd rather get back to Irving. Meanwhile, Author:Richard Clyde Ford -- are you sure all that Malay stuff is right? --RaboKarbakian (talk) 02:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
First listed RCF-work gives place of work which seems to align with some of the data for RCF, so it looks okay at first glance. What are you seeing that makes you doubt that allocation. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: open library has not decided about this author [1] but nothing about Malay. My university has a building named after him. Malay seems very far away from early 1900s Michigan especially for that to be the only thing here. Yesterday was EMU day for me. I found photographs of my campus before the water tower (1910) and the observatory (1913 iirc). I had no idea who those buildings were named for! So, this Malay naggle is atop all of that discovery. The international dorm, in my 8 months there, many Asian countries were represented there -- but not Malay! Which I know means nothing but it is a naggle.
I have been at war with a software with a similar name and grow weary and begin to hate deception and my species; a species I generally used to like. So thats there too. Thanks for asking!--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:55, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
VIAF search indicates speciality in German. Popular Science Monthly/Volume 54/April 1899/The Malay Language says professor of German at Albion College (Michigan). LOC indicates at both Albion College and Michigan State] So without evidence to the contrary it looks fine. — billinghurst sDrewth 16:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: Michigan State Normal College which is now Eastern Michigan University. What is now Michigan State University used to be some variation of Michigan State Agriculture. Normal was for teachers back then. --RaboKarbakian (talk) 16:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Handbook of style formatting[edit]

You’re right, {{multicol}} does look better; I’ll switch over the following pages. The work looked quite interesting (and not particularly long), so I decided to do some work. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:46, 9 December 2020 (UTC).

@TE(æ)A,ea.: It was also a pain to move the columns into a different order, so there are reasons other than appearance. Having the text list in its real order was the reason (according to my w3c spies) for making the html4 tables into xhtml divs. And truly, if you ever want a list of perfectly abbrev.'d books of the bible, there they are. I am sorry about the extra moving things around. I will do it if you don't want to. --RaboKarbakian (talk) 00:28, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
For these cases, “real order” definitely matters (it doesn’t always, and sometimes a table is more appropriate). I tend to use tables exclusively, but the template is definitely preferable here. I have made the changes (except for the list of state abbreviations on p. 5, for which I used {{plainlist}}). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 01:11, 10 December 2020 (UTC).
(paraphrased) "Tables are for information that occurs in tabular format", ie. the table 'Trees in forests' with the forest names for the rows and tree names for the columns and number of trees filling the table. html4 could have called them "stables", however, and mobile devices would have to just deal with it. I really miss html4. Free webspace. Visitor counters (even when they didn't have anything to count), etc., etc. I violate the w3c guidlines also. html5 has a <column /> tag....--RaboKarbakian (talk) 11:25, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I do enjoy coming across the occasional older Web-site in that style. The Web is in a worse position now—or, at least, it certainly looks worse. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 14:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC).

Re:Publisher marks.[edit]

I’ve just found the following list of Publisher marks, which you may find helpful. User:Rochefoucauld/Publishing Companies/Publishing marks --kathleen wright5 (talk) 05:09, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

@Kathleen.wright5: You may also be interested in c:Category:Logos of publishing houses and its subcategory c:Category:Printer's marks. If anyone is interested in printers' marks and publishing houses there is a good deal of work needed to systematise and organise these categories on Commons, and in the Portal: namespace here (cf. eg. Portal:Harper & Brothers). And such work would be useful for others when trying to track down a mark or identify a publisher, or making works discoverable through other axis. --Xover (talk) 09:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
This started with me complementing the craftmanship of the restoration of a particular mark. I see in that cat an svgized mark, whose beauty outshines all of the jpg and png there. Wikidata is really lacking for Publishers and Print houses also. I dislike linking to a person as publisher. A three wiki clean up sounds like great fun! but not on this 7x4 inch touchscreen. There have already been complaints about typos that I can't see me making and my kbd has multiple personalities (configurations) which are making my visible problems (mistakes) worse.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

If I goofed...[edit]

in any of my edits (re: [2]), here or at some other WM project, I am always willing to fix my errors; or, if it seems beyond my ability, or if I am just not in the right state of mind to address it, then the good thing is that there are others who can help make the necessary changes. I try to ask for help nicely, and I am always grateful. I try not to leave messes. I am not perfect, but I try to be thorough. Have a good day. Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:52, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

@Londonjackbooks: I called it a "cause". The author of that poem is not a big deal to me, but it seemed to be to you. My current "cause" would be making utf-8 documents completely using ascii characters, something that I suspect you have no great care for until the point you might have to change your work flow. I spent some several minutes trying to figure out good words to use before I disassembled your "star" and I couldn't find those words and didn't disassemble anything -- more for the love of my own causes than anything else, selfish as I am.
These are the few words I found: something about most people being uneducated idiots, even the educated. And the search for information about the song that we all know is the quickest way that the majority would find the poem. And also something about c.s.lewis and his tales starting with the new testament because that seems to be the entry point for "the west" into the religions of the desert peoples -- and you can start to see where my words began to fail and I fled (again) to math books....
Is there anything you care to know about ascii?--RaboKarbakian (talk) 11:43, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Why are we even here editing at all if not for something or someone having inspired us to be here (yes, even boredom). You are, of course, free to make assumptions about what may or may not constitute a big deal to others... As for me, other than the content I choose to edit, I do not make edits based on my own preference. I attempt to follow rules and guidelines. If it appeared to you that I made an edit with the intention of highlighting a certain version, then you are mistaken. If I understand you incorrectly, then I am mistaken. As for the "uneducated" or the "educated"... I have no idea what you are talking about. If the subject of ascii comes up in my work flow (if I will even know if/when it does), then I will be sure to give you a ping. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:11, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
The problem with ascii will be for the second proofreader. The problem with "The Star" was, iirc, that en ws has it's own label for "the star" that points to a poem titled "twinkle, twinkle..." while all of the other wiki use a label "twinkle...". I would be the partially educated idiot who might guess that mozart had written the poem because I had heard he wrote the jingle....
I will fix it later today. I will also be sorry to do it. If you know where the first time it was published and I can find a scan, I will do what I can to get it here.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 12:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Yeah I'm bored. Beyond belief.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 12:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Strength to you Londonjackbooks (talk) 02:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)