User talk:EncycloPetey

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Thank you EncycloPetey[edit]

Thank you i am very new at this. Just trying.


You don't need to assign the role, you will see that the rights functionality resides with you as an administrator. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:50, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Could have fooled me yesterday. The system wasn't marking my edits as "patrolled". --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:36, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank You[edit]

I appreciate the welcome message EncycloPetey. OtisTyler (talk) 16:53, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

RE: Sources[edit]

Hey, new to adding content to wiki source, I’ve been adding the source text for Constantine’s letters in the notes section of the header. Which is typically been Life of Constantine by Eusebius, does that satisfy the requirement? Or is there another way it’s supposed to be done? JonathanBBlaze (talk) 04:04, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Things just got messy[edit]

and I may use your suggested formatting for "Azlea" after all. Could I ask a favor? Assuming your preferred layout is being applied, how would you format this page? Primarily where scene 2 begins, as well as with the dialogue of the Fisherman (which is not in poetry format) and how it is aligned with subsequent text. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:00, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

I would format it the way you have, except that I would {{float right}} the stage directions, and would set a left margin div for the indented poetic lines. Of course, I would also use Layout2, which would adjust the margins to compensate for the extremes of width variation. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:03, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Can you provide an example for a left margin div? Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:08, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Like this:
<div style="margin-left:2em; text-indent:1em">
It creates a 2em left margin and indents the first line of each paragraph by 1em. There is also a {{Left margin}} template, but I prefer to use the code directly because it's easier to tweak. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. And does it require an end-div? Also, how does one format over page breaks? Sorry, the questions just keep coming! Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes. It needs either an {{div end}} or </div> to close it. But if the format runs over several pages, you can stick the close in the footer, and use formatting in the header/footer over the intervening pages, just like {{block center/s}} or other /s templates. I've been doing this in The Comedies of Aristophanes (Hickie 1853)/Clouds for example. The only odd bit is where a line breaks across pages, but you can see examples of how to handle that (if you need it) in the link I posted. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:18, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


Thought it better to just ask in person. Can I make changes like bolding or italicising text of the work which hasn't been bolded in the source? I tried finding a policy about it, but I can't seem to find one. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 23:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)

@MonsterHunter32: From the Wikisource:Style guide: "Text formatting should mimic the original document to show the work as presented". Wikisource's primary goal is to be as faithful to the source material as possible. So, no, we don't add italics or bold when the original didn't have it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I read that, but I didn't understand the other part which seems to give conflicting info: Basic formatting is desirable, but attempts to exactly reproduce an original may be cumbersome and inaccessible. The aim is to give an authentic digital transcription of the content, not an imitation of a printed page; to produce a type facsimile rather than a photographic facsimile. Basic formatting to retain includes italic, bold, Small Caps, relative font size, and footnotes[1] (see the editing help page). That is why I thought it better to ask because it appeared to me that you can make some changes. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@MonsterHunter32: It's not conflicting info. It simply acknowledges that there are times where we cannot reproduce the original exactly, such as when the original in printed in columns, or an image (and caption) is printed sideways, or other points that we do not attempt to reproduce exactly because we are in electronic format instead of a physical one. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh okay. Anyway, I got just one other thing to ask of you. I created Author:Kim Jong-un but the Wikidata page is locked except for autoconfirmed editors. Can you please edit and add link to the site page there? I've only made one edit there. Thanks for all your help. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:26, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@MonsterHunter32: The license for Kim Jong-un looks wrong. It's unlikely that a US license would be the primary one for works he produces. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Actually I've only sourced all his works or press statements from White House website. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:29, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but we don't place the license on Author pages based solely on the works we have thus far, but as general a license as we can for all potential works we might host here. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I'll try checking up North Korean laws then in a minute. Thanks again. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Also, take a look at Author:Ernest Miller Hemingway; it's not the best model, but it shows an approach for situations where more than one license may apply. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Per Section 12 (Exclusion) government material is excluded from copyright unless intended for commercial purposes. However, there is no licence template regarding North Korean government's copyright policy on Wikisource. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:41, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
We may want to create a template then. Perhaps post in the Scriptorium, if you need assistance. I don't usually work with those templates, and am unfamiliar with the way they're coded. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:43, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
I'll create one myself. I need to sleep now so I'll come back in a few hours and create it. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 01:44, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Done. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 07:34, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Collected works of Ambrose Bierce, Volume 2[edit]

You sent me a message (which I can't fathom how to respond to - clicking talk takes me to a page which doesn't feature the message) concerning the above and its indexing.

I started proofreading this as a random selection. It already had an index page and a table of contents so I've worked with what was already there. Having looked at the 'header' guidance, it looks like whoever set it up originally didn't do it in accordance with that guidance (e.g. the naming convention isn't right). I can't see how to rename things and I can't make the 'Next' and 'Previous' links work.

Can you offer any advice - or better still fix it for me?

@Chrisguise: I can do a little which should help. Then see if you can duplicate what I've done. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
It looks as though @Billinghurst: has already started doing some of the work. I'll let him continue, showing what it should look like, and you should be able to continue from there. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

National Institute of Mental Health (U.S.)[edit]

Hello, I'm adding NIMH's books on wikisource: why do you remove the autor's page? NIMH is the books' autor, there is no copyright since these are US government publications. What's the problem?

Copyright status of work by the U.S. government

--Ascax (talk) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ascax: Two issues: (1) The page you created consisted only of a short description, which looked like a Wikipedia stub article instead of an Author page (we get a lot of those), (2) Government organizations get Portal: pages here; the Author namespace is reserved for individual human authors. So if you are planning to add texts released by the NIMH, you'd want to set up a Portal page like Portal:United Nations or Portal:Supreme Court of the United States; the actual layout of the Portal namespace is more flexible than the Author namespace, so feel free to develop whatever page layout works best for your needs. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
OK, thank you, I find the portals: Portal:National Institutes of Health and Portal:United States Department of Commerce. --Ascax (talk) 16:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Why'd you revert my edits on the Coverdale Bible Page 29?[edit]

I transcribed the footnote, & corrected a few words of OCR, why'd you revert it? 18:13, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

The change was difficult to read, and looked like an annotation, rather than the material from the page itself. Another editor has already pointed out my mistake to me and returned your edit. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
By the way, it was me both on the IP address & reverting. I logged in to revert & edit because I thought it would just get reverted again if I did it logged out. The commentary was in an HTML comment, which I think is kosher for wikisource. It's mainly for any future editor that may be trying to verify the text, that's all. Definitely having it show up when presented would violate some policies, but I think it would be helpful to anyone attempting to verify it, as it's only visible when editing. JustinCB (talk) 11:26, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


Hi thanks for your help, sorry I should have asked you before creating redirects. I've redirected Author:Narendra Damodardas Modi to Author:Narendra Modi. I didn't know the former existed, but once I found out I redirected because the latter is more common name. I hope in this case of Modi there is no problem, since the redirect isn't in mainspace. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 20:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Redirecting within the Author namespace is fine, and is done especially in cases where an Author is known (or published) under more than one name. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:59, 4 August 2018 (UTC)