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Thank you EncycloPetey[edit]

Thank you i am very new at this. Just trying.


I see that you have done significant contributions in wikitonary. I am not able to understand how to edit those pages, can you help me with a sample page? If feasible a guide to how to edit in wikitonary. Thanks Cyarenkatnikh (talk)


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Meqabyan/Ethiopian Maccabees[edit]

Yes, I am the translator. I have various reasons for permitting its partial public use.

Meqabyan/Ethiopian Maccabees[edit]

I'd be glad to provide that, but I have little to no knowledge of how wikipedia operates.

Constitution of Qatar[edit]

There you go ->

Re: fonts[edit]

(Sorry for missing your message.) I have been indexing and proofreading many of these old broadsides, which include a number of unusual fonts. For this, and a few others, the font wasn’t quite blackletter, but it was similar, so I used it as such. See also “The Song of the Rebel”, “Manassas”, “Beauregard at Manassas”, and “Battle Song of the ‘Black Horsemen’”. There may be a few more in the future, though. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 03:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deprecated templates[edit]

So in what way should the template be fixed then?

99% of what you're doing is correct. The template shouldn't appear in categories. And for short bits of factual text, the template isn't needed. But when large chunks of text are quoted from Wikipedia, we do not have an alternative. For that use, the template is still functional and should be left in place. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:03, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok I see Ffffrr (talk) 05:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Index:As a Man Thinketh[edit]

Hi there. Just wondering why you reverted my changes to the index page. I went through every single page to check for defects, plus the Chapter transclusions and am unsure what is still wrong. Regards, Chrisguise (talk) 17:53, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Chrisguise: I have not edited that Index page. An IP edited the Index; I have not. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:00, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The problem is that the chapter pages do not have a {{Header}} template as required by our Style Guide. It says this in the clean up template that I added. You can look for yourself; the chapter pages have no header templates. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • EncycloPetey: It says “header="1"” in the screenshot; each chapter has a header template, though not called through the template directly, but through the “pages” tag. There is clearly a header; why are you saying there is not? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    No, each page has a tag-generated header. The do not have header templates. There must be a header template, for multiple reasons. The pages tag is a quick-fix, but is not considered best practice, nor does its use satisfy Style Guide requirements. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • EncycloPetey: I do not use the “pages” tag-generated header, as I want greater flexibility, but your claim is absurd. In the first place, the style guide only states that pages “should” use {{header}}, not that they must. In addition, why would the “header” function of the “pages” tag exist, if not to provide a header? That is what the various bibliographical fields on the “index” page are for: to load the parameters of the automatically generated header. If you wish to change the policy, and disallow the use of the tag-generated header, do so; but do not claim that it is out of order, when it is not. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:13, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      The pages-header implementation exists so that bots have the means to auto-generate a "quick-and-dirty" work once the table of contents is completed. I am not seeking to change policy, but am alerting you to the policy. I did not make this policy. It is possible to use the pages tag generated headers, but only as a stop-gap. A completed work should not have them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:16, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      • EncycloPetey: I have created a thread on the Scriptorium here on the topic. As bots can create pages using the normal “header” template, as I have seen the match-and-split bot do, I do not believe that claim; and I have seen on numerous occasions non-bot users using the “header” function of the “pages” tag. Again, you are not calling to any policy, but merely your claim of policy; you are not seeking to change it, but creating it out of whole cloth; and you certainly have made the so-called “policy.” TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:21, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        It is the first item under "Formatting" on the Style Guide, as I pointed out to you both on your Talk page and in the Scriptorium thread. Above, you referred to this policy, so I know you read it, so you cannot claim I am "creating it out of whole cloth" when clearly it exists and you have read it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:26, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
        • EncycloPetey: I have read the policy; I read it before you even pointed it out to me. My claim is that your claim, that the use of the “header” template is required, is not what the policy states, and that the “header” function of the “pages” tag is an acceptable alternative to the use of the template. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:28, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
          Then you understand neither the meaning of "should" nor "wikt:out of whole cloth". --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:32, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
          • EncycloPetey: From English Wiktionary: “ought to;” and in the usage notes, the word “must,” indicating requirement, is contrasted. And as for “whole cloth”: “Something made completely new, with no history, and not based on anything else.” This is an accurate representation of your claim that the “header” template is required, to the exclusion of the “header” function of the “pages” tag. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:35, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
            At this point I have to conclude you are arguing for arguing's sake, since I showed you the basis for my claims, yet you persist in asserting that there is no basis. Please limit further discussion to the Scriptorium. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
            • EncycloPetey: I am arguing with you, yes; I am countering your claims, and claiming that your claimed basis is no basis. But I will limit my discussion, as you wish. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 20:40, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TE(æ)A,ea.,EncycloPetey I have come across many works that use the type of header that is causing the problem but this is the first time I have seen it flagged up this way. I have fixed the chapter transclusions and removed the maintenance tag. Chrisguise (talk) 00:28, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It used to be an occasional issue, but I've noticed it becoming common of late. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:25, 9 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I want to upload a book, but I need information.[edit]

I wish I could host a book here. I have it photocopied. I'm thinking of scanning your pages and uploading them here to host the book. I don't know if it can. The book is titled: "The Military Campaigns of Dominican Independence." I would like to upload it to share it..

I would like to know what procedure I should follow???

please help. Risantana (talk) 10:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The Wikisource:Scriptorium is the best place to ask for help. We would need to know when the book was published, who wrote it, who published it, and similar information. It must not be under copyright and we would use the information to determine whether or not it is under copyright. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:39, 19 October 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]