User talk:EncycloPetey

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Thank you EncycloPetey[edit]

Thank you i am very new at this. Just trying.


on Principles of Political Economy/Book 1/Chapter 1/Section 1, can you get rid of the extra header? Thanks. Artix Kreiger (talk) 23:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Done. There was a second header template mistakenly included on page 36. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:03, 17 October 2017 (UTC)


Ah. Do I have to delete the uploaded part if I cannot get the second or can I leave it until someone uploads the second part any day? For myself, I might try to find a complete copy in the Public Domain rather than the second part of the copy I had uploaded. By the way, [[1]], it was Billinghurst who directed me to the copy I just uploaded. I do fear accidentally uploading copyrighted material so I ahve not really dared to look myself, lest I stumble on pirated content. I herd you liek mudkips (talk) 21:26, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

@I herd you liek mudkips: It is possible to complete just the half with the current scan, but there is no telling how long it will be before the other half becomes available in a scan. I usually prefer to locate a complete scan (or set of scans from the same publisher and date) before proceeding. There are a couple of works I'd really like to work on, but have held off because only a portion is available in scan form. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:39, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I actually found a better and complete one [[2]]. How should I upload it? Should I send it directly here or upload it first at Wikimedia? Also, is it Public Domain? It says it is not in copyright but I want to be sure. And how can I tell if something on is public domain or not? And does pirated content exist on I herd you liek mudkips (talk) 19:32, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@I herd you liek mudkips: We preferentially upload files to Commons, unless there is a copyright issue that prevents putting it on Commmons, yet still allows it to be hosted locally. For this particular book, the translation was published in 1879, so there is no US copyright problem, and since the translator died in 1940, there is no UK or French copyright problem either. So the file should be uploaded to Commons (djvu is preferred).
The site doesn't host pirated content, but sometimes they make a mistake, and sometimes copyright laws change, so we always double-check to be sure. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:45, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Now, on my talkpage, can you leave me some links that will help me work with Wikisource? Meanwhile, I will upload the material. I herd you liek mudkips (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
I'm not sure which links would be most helpful. The "welcome" template you already have has a few, and knowing which specialized links would serve you best isn't possible until I know more of what you would like to do. Later today, once your file is uploaded, I could set up the Index page for you, but I won't be able to do that at the moment. I am currently attending to things offline and can only be on for short stretches. But a few hours from now, I can attend to more complex tasks. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:58, 20 October 2017 (UTC)


If a work is in Public domain in the US but not in the UK, does that mean the Wikisource copy would be blocked in UK? Also, if a work by a change in law went back into copyright, would Wikisource have to delete it? I herd you liek mudkips (talk) 18:36, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

@I herd you liek mudkips: No, we would not have to delete a work here unless the work was under copyright in the US. Our site is not locally blocked either, which is a result of the digital age outpacing out-of-date copyright laws. It is unlikely that future law changes would put additional works retroactively into copyright, but this has happened in the past. And works that become copyrighted in the US would be deleted.
However, if a work is not in public domain in the UK, it could not have its scans hosted at Commons, and editors in the UK would probably not work on it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:12, 23 October 2017 (UTC)


I'm not interested in transcribing from scratch at the moment. I just wanted to clean up the copy as it is. The actual text seems to be good. Just the headings are confusing. They make sense as marginal notes, as in the Jowett original, but they don't make sense as section headings. Do you know of a way to convert them into something like marginal notes? RH Swearengin (talk) 03:30, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

@RH Swearengin: Yes, but it would not be particularly quick either. My impression is that our sidenote templates only function properly if they are transcluded from another location, rather than being placed directly into a text. But you can have a look at {{Right sidenote}} and {{Left sidenote}} if you'd like to give it a go. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

That did the trick. Thanks! RH Swearengin (talk) 04:56, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

I would like to add the Stephanus pagination. So, if you could set up the scans of the original, I'll go through it for that purpose. RH Swearengin (talk) 05:01, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but I have linked the scans at Author:Benjamin Jowett. Do you mean that you want to help with page-by-page transcription, or simply to insert the Stephanus pagination into the current copy-paste version? At some point, we prefer that the entire copy-paste goes away, to be replaced by a transcluded version. So, while working in the current copy-paste might achive a short-term goal faster, it would ultimately become wasted effort when that copy is replaced. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:00, 29 October 2017 (UTC)


Bits that didn't archive are due to not having dates against them. If you forge an old date, they will archive accordingly. Vice versa if you don't want to have bits archive, you can prevent that per the instruction on the bot page. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:39, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

"Two points about the Page namespace:"[edit]

I feel certain there are dozens of additional points about Page namespace where I can mess up. I suspect they are all mentioned in a help page scattered somewhere. Where can I find them sorted in descending severity/lethality. I'm new. Every edit is a first experiment. I will screw up. Where do these fall in the scale between "irreparable" and "nobody-cares"? I subscribe to "Primum non nocere" but that's tough to follow without a standard of measure.


Thanks for notifying me. I concur to the points made in Wikisource:What Wikisource includes. But on the other hand, I also suggest you to give editors a warm welcome instead of a simple cold warning. Just a thought ;) Hymnguistic (talk) 02:37, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikisource takes a dim view of editors who violate copyright law. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
Yup, that’s like a way of saying “I don’t give two sh*ts about you”, treating me like another useless human being that deserves to die. (I am human too, you know.) Just sayin’. Cheers ^_^ Hymnguistic (talk) 22:50, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Could I have some files "localised"[edit]

Hi, I have recently imported some items from the Internet Archive mostly related to Cornwall, @ShakespeareFan00: has been helping me and says that commons:File:Cornwall (Mitton).djvu and commons:File:The Cornwall coast.djvu need to localised on English Wikisource as PD-US (pre 1923) but not PD-UK/PD-70 due to the authors death dates and therefore can't host them on commons. (see commons:User talk:Arthur Kerensa), could you please help me with this? Arthur Kerenſaspeak 12:13, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but not until much later today when I'll have the sort of internet connection I'll need to do that. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:00, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
@Arthur Kerensa: Come to think of it, you'd probably get a faster response posting in Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help to request the files be transferred locally. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, no worries, there isn't any rush, but i posted on the Scriptorium as well. Arthur Kerenſaspeak 16:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)


It's unfortunate that a globally banned user's socks turned up here, but thanks for cleaning up my talk page. DoRD (talk) 19:59, 15 December 2017 (UTC)