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This page is for proposing deletion of specific articles on Wikisource in accordance with the deletion policy, and appealing previously-deleted works. Please add {{delete}} to pages you have nominated for deletion. What Wikisource includes is the policy used to determine whether or not particular works are acceptable on Wikisource. Articles remaining on this page should be deleted if there is no significant opposition after at least a week.

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File was moved from Commons, but basically issues from c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:HRPEvidenceBook.pdf need to be solved. Either the unfree images mentioned cut from the PDF and new version reuploaded while old revdeleted, or as per Wikisource:Copyright policy#Fair use it should go away. --Base (talk) 11:49, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

The scan of the work is the scan as has been released and is the copy of the text. I would Symbol keep vote.svg Keep for the file, and the reproduced text. The issue of any claimed images is related to the discussion on WS:S about the proposed change on exemptions to copyright where they are part of a reproduced work, so images for me are undetermined. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:35, 23 November 2017 (UTC)


This was once a valid template, but Afghanistan has adopted a life+50 copyright law[1], and has joined the WTO[2] as of July 29, 2016 and thus that is the URAA date for Afghanistan; all Afghani works published by authors alive in 1966 or later are now copyright in the US.--Prosfilaes (talk) 23:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Prior to that discussion, we should be relicensing existing works, and dealing with the template to find out whether we have suitable existing templates to cater for the works, or we need to update this template for specificity. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:34, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of author based categories[edit]

I think that author-based categories should be deletable under the speedy deletion policy so that we don't have to raise a discussion every time one pops up. They probably fall under rationale G5 (beyond scope) so the policy itself wouldn't need to be modified. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Agreed but perhaps a new G8 criterion? Green Giant (talk) 00:07, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
There was a general discussion here to which we can link. If we are going to add it to the criterion, then we need to have supportive documentation of why they are out of scope for what wikisource includes, and how we explain the few that escape the reasoning. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:41, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

The System of Nature[edit]

The System of Nature (1770) by Baron D'Holbach, translated by Samuel Wilkinson. No edition data.

A work that is not scan-supported, there is the introduction and first chapter, and many empty chapters. If we are to have this work then we should get a scan and proofread from that. This is abandoned and unlikely to be finished. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:40, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I found no scan at IA. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment It seems to be this scan on Google Books, and this copy of the same scan on HathiTrust, and it seems to be a cut and paste from this webpage. A split and match seems an idea; it's a lot to work on, but certainly a worthy work.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:06, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Here's the 1820 translation by Samuel Wilkinson on IA -Einstein95 (talk) 06:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
Not a fan of that edition. Besides the serious misattribution on the title page to the wrong author, and the obscurity of the translator, that scan contains only volume I. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:40, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:Double quotes and redirect[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: kept; deletion rationale is no longer relevant —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:43, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
A template like this is contrary to our guidance in Wikisource:Style guide and I would encourage us to remove the template and replace its use with standard double quotes. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete Agreed. But it will take someone quite a bit of work to eliminate the usages. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:36, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment We could start by using straight quotes in the template itself, and then using a bot. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:31, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
@Beleg Tâl: it has a variety of characters plugged in to be used, so a straight replacement may not be possible. I would suggest that it I would run a bot through and replace, and remove. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg DeleteMpaa (talk) 16:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep This template was updated to use straight quotes, and is still useful for the slight padding and other esoteric uses. I'd suggest to mark it as deprecated and discourage its use, but since it is no longer contrary to our style guidelines I do not think it needs to be deleted. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
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Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable[edit]

This work is moribund and has been for about ten years. It is a copy and paste from Bartleby. Of the many pages in the work we only have a few, and if we needed the work we should go back and get the scan and work from that,

Noting that there are disambiguation pages containing and we should purge those pages of links if we delete. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:44, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete including all existing subpages. In addition to disambiguation pages, there are some accompanying Talk pages that will also need to go. The work can easily be recreated more authoritatively from scans if sufficient interest arises. Tarmstro99 12:46, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
I can't find a scan of this exact edition (1898, published by Henry Altemus), but there are lots of scans of other printings out there. When I have a chance I'll put a scan behind it. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 21:43, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Offences Against The Person Act, 1861 (repealed)[edit]

A collection of extracts from the (complete and scan-backed) Offences against the Person Act 1861. The extracts consist of those portions of the original Act that “have been repealed and no longer represent the current law.” Putting aside for the moment the difficulty of keeping such a listing current (have no other portions of the underlying statute been repealed since Offences Against The Person Act, 1861 (repealed) was posted here a decade ago?), I question whether our own original listing of repealed statutes satisfies WS:WWI. Of course, if the UK Parliament issued a publication enumerating which portions of its Offences against the Person Act 1861 were no longer in force, I would see no problem with reproducing that document here. But Offences Against The Person Act, 1861 (repealed) doesn’t seem to be anyone’s work but our own and there is no indication that it was previously published. Tarmstro99 18:51, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Could this be updated to be essentially an annotated version of Offences against the Person Act 1861? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:35, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Historic American Engineering Record - Boston Elevated Railway Company photographs and information[edit]

A decade-old cut-and-paste job with copious OCR errors; would require significant cleanup work to make presentable. The accompanying talk page appears to be a personal note from a reader expressing appreciation for the text. I think I have located a scan of the original document here, but the scan includes hundreds of pages of appendices (containing photos, drawings, tables, and other information) not provided in our version. There is also this page which appears to include not only the scanned original document, but also clearer versions of the embedded photographs. It would surely be possible for an editor interested in the subject to combine the scanned text with the linked photographs to produce a version of the document far superior to that presently posted here. In its existing state, however, Historic American Engineering Record - Boston Elevated Railway Company photographs and information adds little of value to our collection and should be deleted. Tarmstro99 00:49, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

If we're sure either of those is the same "edition" (even if the indices are additional material not previously included -- maybe the original cut-n-paster didn't want to deal with complex data grids?), then possibly we could go the match-and-split route? --Mukkakukaku (talk) 00:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
I did match-and-split on a text like this recently, with zero proofreading and tons of OCR crap, and based on my experience I would far rather proofread from scratch than from this. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:56, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
don’t know if i want to delete a cut and paste, without a scanned-backed to replace it. there are photos mass uploaded here c:Category:Historic American Engineering Record,
i would support a demonstration of an example here, given the large amount of material in HAER, that would support historic structures. Slowking4SvG's revenge 22:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

{{large}}, et al[edit]

We have a series of deprecated templates:

They were replaced in 2010 by the {{larger}}, {{smaller}} (etc) family. The reason they were not made redirects is that the usage wasn't linear and there were subtle differences in the results -- {{large}} became {{xx-larger}} etc. (Or, at least, that is my understanding; I wasn't around or paying attention at the time.) The original PD discussion can be found in the archives here.

Either way, these templates are now banners that say "this template is deprecated, use <other> template instead.". For example, {{large}}:

Stop x nuvola.svg This template has been deprecated in favour of {{x-larger}}. A redirect does not exist, as this template had subtle differences with its replacement(s), and confusion may arise. Please do not create a new template with this name, to prevent confusion with replacements.

I have confirmed using 'what links here' that these templates are unused in the Index, Page, and main namespaces, and the remaining uses are archives of Scriptorium or WS:PD and what looks like a sandbox/cheatsheet of a long-inactive user.

As such, I propose that we either delete these templates, or create permanent redirects to the similarly named template. For example, {{large}} would permanently redirect to {{larger}}. My reasoning is as follows:

  • These are common typos for the correct template, and they mean the same thing: "make this text extra small" and "make this text extra smaller" really do mean the same thing, semantically.
  • The reason that the original template was deprecated in this other fashion was because they were heavily used at the time and since the replacement process involved "subtle differences" the banner was used to ease confusion for the process. This was 8 years ago, though, and since then nobody has used these templates so any confusion should have been long alleviated.

I didn't want to go ahead and do it myself since the current implementation was the result of a community discussion/concensus. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 16:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support redirecting, since the templates are not in use. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support redirecting except {{small}}, which is currently the poster child for use of the deprecation template. If we want to redirect that one, we should find identify another template to use as an exemplar. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose on further reflection. There is a difference between font-size:small; and font-size:smaller;, and we shouldn't use {{small}} to approximate the behaviour of the smaller keyword. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Er, {{small}} doesn't approximate the behavior of font-size:small either. It approximates a big ugly banner:
Stop x nuvola.svg This template has been deprecated in favour of {{Smaller}}. A redirect does not exist, as this template had subtle differences with its replacement(s), and confusion may arise. Please do not create a new template with this name, to prevent confusion with replacements.
Not that nuances in CSS relative font-sizes should mean anything in template names. That's why we have {{fine}}. (Nor is {{smaller}} defined using font-size:smaller either: it uses 83%. This makes sense, since smaller is a relative keyword and it would just make the font-size the next relative size smaller than its parent, whatever that may be.) --Mukkakukaku (talk) 05:26, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Hamlet in Gregg Shorthand[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: kept; no consensus to delete. Work itself is within scope of WS:WWI, even though the project is abandoned and the writing system is not (yet) supported. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:42, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Is Index:Tales From Shakespeare - Hamlet - Printed in Gregg Shorthand.djvu within our scope? It's a copy of Shakespeare's Hamlet printed entirely in shorthand, a notational form that I can't imagine we'd be able to support here. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:21, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
I assume the underlying language is still English, in which case the work is technically within our scope. However, since we cannot duplicate the shorthand, we would have to display the entire contents as a series of images. We have not shied away from this in the past.Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Note: I do not intend to support this method of displaying a work, only noting that it is not against our policies, and is compliant with precedent. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Like Beleg Tâl, I'd say it's pretty clearly in our scope. However, @Jasonanaggie:, why did you upload this and how did you plan to handle it? It's probably worth deleting the Index page unless someone actually has a plan to work on it.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Is there a way we can implement the shorthand character set? Jasonanaggie (talk) 04:34, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
There is only one way I know that is feasible: create an image for each character in the set, upload it to Commons, and embed them in the text LIKE THIS. The only other way I can think of is to find or create a custom font that implements the character set, then somehow convince the devs to add it to mw:Extension:ULS; but there are about a dozen outstanding requests for font additions and modifications that haven't been looked at in years, so I don't think that is feasible. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 13:46, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Both of those would break for screen readers. Then again, I'm not sure how useful the experience would be for screen readers in the first place, since the novelty of the work is only in the typeface. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 18:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
@Mukkakukaku: not all works need to accomodate screen readers. Chopin Nocturnes Opus 9/Number 2 was added recently with some acclaim, and it isn't screen reader friendly either. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:06, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
I am not familiar with a Wikimedia policy which prefers to exclude a decent subset of disabled users; I would appreciate a link to one if you have one handy. Rather, most of what I know indicates we should support such users -- for example, we should include "alt" text on images. Additionally, the ULS solution will not work on mobile -- ULS is disabled in the Minerva skin used by the mobile view -- and I do know for a fact that there is an effort to improve support for mobile users. (I've always found sheet music to be a bit on the edge; having dabbled in writing a lilypond interpreter for screenreaders, it's kind of border line since the end result is purely audio and it's within the realm of possibility that a screenreader will support it.) --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
There's not been any rule we should only upload works that work with screen readers, and we preserve original spelling and punctuation, even of old works that, unedited, would pose a significant problem to screen readers. Commons images often have the most basic of descriptions; if you can't see, nothing will tell you that File:At the Earths Core 1922 Dusk Jacket.jpg shows two people, one male, one female, with the man firing a bow at a flying dinosaur. It strikes me as more valuable to makes those more accessible to screen readers than to reject works that won't be accessible to screen readers.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:43, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Er, I don't really have any opinion about uploading works that aren't valid with screen readers. Any PDF without a valid text layer isn't going to play nice with a screen reader unless it comes with OCR software -- and I'm no expert in how that works. Commons can do whatever they want with their image descriptions and policies and whatnot.
When we proofread works, we proofread as text. The text is compatible with screen readers. For that image you linked to, which I assume is a book cover, the graphic isn't the important part. The important part is the "At the Earth's Core" and author's name text. Images should have alt-text anyway (our own help page for adding images links to Wikipedia's extensive W:Help:Pictures page, which discusses this; not only is it important for screen readers but also in case commons is slow/glitches/has connectivity issues and the image doesn't load.)
If you don't care about disabled users with screen readers, then care about mobile users. I would be supremely unhappy if I go to read a work and then it uses up all of my data because it suddenly downloads 900 mb of images instead of text without warning. Or people with slow or rate limited internet. Or people who browse without images because they're behind a corporate or government firewall, or because they're on a metered connection. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 07:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
The text is compatible with screen readers? Really? There's a screen reader that can handle Wið Ymbe Nim Eorþan?
It's trivial to dismiss something as unimportant, but if it's truly unimportant, than why bother having it? I could dismiss all the text of "At the Earth's Core" as unimportant; go see w:At the Earth's Core, that will tell you everything truly important. A blind person could well want to know what the cover looks like, more than just what you think is important. Images should have alt-text, but a picture is worth a thousand words, and the alt-text rarely tries to convey that.
It's not that I don't care about users with screen readers; I simply think we shouldn't throw away something just because it can't be used by them.
Lastly, B&W images, especially vector graphics, are tiny. File:Gregg_abacus.svg is 1KB. Clicking on The Sea Lady loads a 204 KB image without warning. If you want warnings, then that's discussable, but Hamlet in Gregg Shorthand is not going to be a standout work in our collection for data size. If you browse without images, you won't get to read the book. You also won't get the full effect of America's Best Comics/26, no matter what we do with it. That's a personal choice.--Prosfilaes (talk) 18:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment It should also be noted that this is not a transcription of Shakespear's Hamlet, but a transcription of Charles Lamb's retelling of the story. It's value therefore is somewhat lessened. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:01, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete I would move to delete this. If you consider Gregg shorthand like we would a font in a computer document, the only novelty in the work is the use of the typeface. It would be like trying to transclude "Hamlet - Printed in Blackletter" or "Wuthering Heights in Hieroglyphics." If this is, as EncycloPetey pointed out above, Charles Lamb's "version" of Hamlet, I would propose finding the text of that to preserve and then nixing the shorthand entirely. (The blackletter is not entirely an apt comparison since it's 1:1 with the Latin alphabet, but a phonetic script like hieroglyphics or runes would be more analogous.) --Mukkakukaku (talk) 18:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
The text of Charles Lamb's version exists at: Tales from Shakespeare/Hamlet. Though we do not yet have a scan-backed edition here, there is a link to an external scan of the 5th edition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:03, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
It's not a different font; it's a different script. There's no reason for us not to preserve the few English works published in non-Latin scripts.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
I believe that if it's not technically feasible, and if there's no user who wants to commit to seeing the project through, then it should be excluded. It's preserved inasmuch as it's been uploaded to Commons. The text is preserved at the link provided by EncycloPetey above. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:55, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Symbol keep vote.svg Keep. As I said before, this text is contrary to neither policy nor precedent. Novelty is not a requirement for hosting a text here. I will also say that "Hamlet - Printed in Blackletter" (or runes) or "Wuthering Heights in Hieroglyphics" would also be in scope and welcome at enWS if an editor is willing to make the effort to proofread them. If Jasonanaggie (or another user) is willing to create the images and thus proofread the text, there is no reason to exclude this text from our website. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 23:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
And how would someone with a screen reader be expected to read it? Without some consensus and/or a policy related to alternative scripts/alphabets it's not clear on how such a thing should be transcribed in the first place. A literal translation? Eg. each character in the Gregg shorthand represents a phonetic sound -- do we transcribe the sounds in English as the image alt-text? Using the phonetic alphabet? Etc. Also it hasn't been touched in over a year so I would say that it fails the "if an editor is willing to make the effort" test.... --Mukkakukaku (talk) 01:45, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
In the absence of a site-wide consensus regarding how to transcribe it, it is up to the proofreaders of the work itself to establish a guideline (ideally documented on the Index talk page). I've provided the uploader an example of how one might go about doing so (using the method that was used for Insular letters until about six months ago). I've also linked to examples of another method that would work, that has been used for sheet music and comic books that we are hosting. As for your last comment, there are a few works on my list of works in progress that I have not touched in over a year, and yet I do not consider them abandoned as I do intend to get to them all eventually. For that reason I would prefer to defer to the uploader's intentions on this matter. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
At what point, then, do we consider works abandoned? Because this one has managed to show up in this discussion with no validated pages, no proofreading guidelines on the talk page, and pretty much nobody sure of what in the world to do about it after a year. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:53, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Mukkakukaku, your advocacy to remove works is sort of puzzling to me. What does it matter if there is another tome on the bookshelf, if you aren't having to assemble the bookshelves yourself? Jasonanaggie (talk) 03:42, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
For more difficult works, such as this one, when it is abandoned without even guidance for how someone else could step in and finish it I believe that it is better to not attempt it at all. This isn't a tome on the bookshelf; this is a collection of paper sitting in a box in the garage waiting to be assembled into a book at some point, but without instruction for how it should be put together. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 07:32, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
@Jasonanaggie: have you abandoned this work? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 04:09, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I would say I will find other volumes to add before I would get around to this problematic one, though I still think it would be fun to do. Jasonanaggie (talk) 04:15, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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The Adventures of Ann[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: replaced by scan-backed edition —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:32, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
Do we have a standard policy (and boilerplate) for drive-by copy-paste contributions? Our contributor of the Lowell articles has added another text filled with scannos, but which has no backing scan for proofreading. This sort of thing happens often enough that I think we should have a standard notice, but if we have such a thing, I do not know where it is. If we do not have it, then perhaps we can draft one? --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:23, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
This particular user has had ... issues with understanding WS policy. I believe we may have discussed this on the Administrators' Notice Board. I would lean towards deleting this work and once again attempting to explain to this user the processes and policies we have in place here. I don't believe this is a widespread issue moreso than an issue affecting a very small subset of users, most of whom are good faith one-time contributors. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:43, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
why not just convert to match and split? -- shouldn’t be too hard to knock out. Slowking4SvG's revenge 03:58, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Is match and split working again? It wasn't the last time someone asked about it. In any case, I'm still hoping we can get some boilerplate to deal with the next time this occurs. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:48, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
I've been using M&S to good effect in recent months, FWIW. -Pete (talk) 00:12, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Personally it seems like M&S in this case is like validating the "work" of a user who is refusing to work with the community and follow the community's agreed upon processes and policies. Nothing against the process in general, but perpetual cleanup of incorrect content seems like it is taking away from time we could spend in other areas. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 07:30, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
I am in general opposed to deleting works that are in scope and easily fixed, especially when (as User:Slowking4 points out) a scan is readily available for match and split. However I do agree that there should be an mbox of some sort to indicate "this work was added with minimal effort, and if it isn't brought up to snuff it will be deleted without further notice" (perhaps speedied as A3 Works without authorship information). I've been using {{no source}} and {{no license}} and similar mboxes to that effect in the past, perhaps these could be modified to state that failure to add the required info will result in proposed or speedy deletion as appropriate. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 04:02, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
it is unclear to me that the "not scan backed" backlog is increasing. or that the answer is to delete new not scan backed, when we have thousands of ancient ones. (i.e. 1922 Encyclopædia Britannica/Aehrenthal, Aloys Lexa von, Count) and yes, if we have a maintenance category or tag, then we could work the backlog. just because you do not want to fix other people’s uploads, does not mean others will not, or that the solution is deletion. Slowking4SvG's revenge 13:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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Patients in mental institutions[edit]

It doesn't appear like there's an active effort to digitize these, so it might be best to remove them from the main namespace until someone decides to work on them. Prosody (talk) 23:45, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Symbol keep vote.svg Keep since they have scans behind them and can easily be picked up by any interested editor. They should be tagged {{incomplete}} and I would also suggest to ensure a TOC is added on the main page so that readers can see that the works have contents and that those contents are not yet available. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 03:50, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Maryland state laws relating to specific railroads[edit]

The following discussion is closed and will soon be archived: kept, split and moved to portal space —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:31, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
If there were any active work going on with the works in this list it might be appropriate to turn it into a portal, as such the works that currently in Wikisource are already all listed under the more general Portal:Maryland General Assembly and Portal:Transportation and communications. Prosody (talk) 01:34, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Delete along with Maryland state laws relating to the Baltimore and Ohio Rail Road. Realistically it should be made into a portal, but as you say once cleanup is done the converted portal will be very sparse. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 03:48, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Considering that Maryland state laws relating to the Baltimore and Ohio Rail Road actually contains several such legislative texts, there is enough to populate a portal. Changing my vote to Symbol keep vote.svg Keep in portal space. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 05:14, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Historia Calamitatusm: The Story of My Misfortunes[edit]

This work, and its unfinished Introduction transcription, is a duplicate of Historia Calamitatum. The latter work contains the text in full, albeit not separated into subpages. -Einstein95 (talk) 20:07, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg Delete per nom —Beleg Tâl (talk) 19:08, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Kama sutra[edit]

Kama_Sutra book available in wikisource is a typed one. We have a djvu available for the book and it is proofread as well. How to migrate this typed version to the djvu one. Is there any template/process to do? Or should I just delete all the pages in the typed version and proceed with the usual transclusion process? --Cyarenkatnikh (talk) 07:13, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

If you are certain they are the same edition, then you can edit each page of Kama Sutra and replace the contents with the usual <pages /> transclusion method. If they are not the same edition, we will first need to determine whether it is possible to complete our copy of the existing edition at Kama Sutra. If we can, then we will host two editions of the Kama Sutra simultaneously. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:39, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:2016 U.S. presidential election[edit]

Empty category.--Jusjih (talk) 05:38, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support. Looks like it once contained works that have since been deleted. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:21, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Gypsy Lore Society copydumps[edit]

These copydumps have sat unformatted since 2011. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:56, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg SupportBeleg Tâl (talk) 03:46, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Tale of Two Brothers[edit]

No source, and I cannot find one (although I can find recent works that used our copy). Without a source, we cannot tell whether this violated copyright.

There is a different translation in (external scan) "Stories from the Early World", R. M. Fleming (1923), if someone would like to create a DjVu from the Google copy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

It appears to be a slightly modified version of this translation by William Matthew Flinders Petrie (1901). The earliest version like ours that I can find is this one. I think we should replace our version with a more failthful rendition of Petrie's. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Vol 2 of Ec. Writings of Petty[edit]

May I suggest to delete Index:William Petty - Economic Writings (1899) vol 2.djvu? The volume is incomplete and replaced by Index:PettyWilliam1899EconomicWritingsVol2.djvu. --Dick Bos (talk) 16:24, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

If they are truly redundant, then it can be speedily deleted. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:29, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


Essentially an author category (see Author:Jesus of Nazareth); can be merged into Category:Christianity. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 23:11, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

A Portal maybe. Jesus of Nazareth is not credited with writing any works himself. All his works as "author" are secondhand quotations at best. "Jesus" as a subject for works has its own set of numbers in most library catalogs because he is the subject of many, many works, so a Portal would seem better suited (as we have for Portal:Socrates) rather than putting everything under the Author page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:04, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
As we've discussed in the past may times, Portals are only appropriate for individuals who have not written any works (like Portal:Socrates), and Author pages are only appropriate for individuals who have written works. Your suggestion therefore amounts to moving Author:Jesus of Nazareth to Portal space, while still deleting the category as I have proposed. However, we have also had discussions that confirmed that Author pages are appropriate for individuals with only falsely-attributed or spurious writings, and the Letter to Abgarus, though known only through second-hand provenance, is a falsely-attributed or spurious writing. His other listed works claim to be transcribed speeches, which are also commonly considered authored works on Wikisource. For these reasons I would oppose moving Author:Jesus of Nazareth to Portal space. I would, however, support creating a redirect or soft redirect from Portal space to Author space; I would also support more prominently linking to Author:Jesus of Nazareth from the Christianity-related portals. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:15, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
If you look through the archives of this very page, you will see discussions about Author:Adam, Author:Noah, and other Biblical figures, in which the consensus was that they ought to be in Author space due to the fact that works are attributed to them in various religious traditions. I think Author:Jesus of Nazareth has better provenance for these works than those others do. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:25, 14 March 2019 (UTC)