Author talk:Donald MacIver

@Billinghurst: Since I see that you are proactive in researching authors, may I ask for your assistance in finding the name of his wife? I wanted to put the appropriate wikilink at Page:A dictionary of the Hakka dialect.pdf/8. Fish bowl (talk) 00:51, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

@Fish bowl: Only secondary/circumstantial evidence, though I am reasonably comfortable that the wife is Elizabeth Murray (1850-1935). Definitely have the family in 1901 census in Scotland, with wife and children. The children give enough information to say that the family was in China in the 1880s, though whether they married prior to departure or in Orient is unknown. The children's data also shows maternal grandparents and the name Murray. The probate was "dative qua" which indicates that it is a family connection for executor, and the second dative qua to daughter pretty much indicates that the wife has deceased and the daughter is the next family member and the year corresponds with the death of Elizabeth Maciver in the right place and time of the right age. Topped off with her probate that ties daughter and brother. Marriage would have been nice. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I couldn't find an obit for Donald in The Scotsman, didn't try to dig through other Scotch newspapers. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:02, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunate that women are so easily obscured in history :( Thank you for the research. Is it enough confidence to fill in the wikilink? Fish bowl (talk) 04:51, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

family tree

• Donald Mackays Family Tree

Donald MacIver
Father Duncan MacIver
Mother Catherine Maclennan
Birth 10 Oct 1851 Ross, Berwickshire, Scotland
Death 21 Jun 1910 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

Don't think that I would trust this family tree outright. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:31, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• walcot Family Tree

rev. donald maciver
Spouse Elizabeth Murray mcaiver
Mother Henrietta Mackay
Children alice maciver
Birth 1853 Stornoway, Ross-shire, Scotland
Residence 1881 Stornoway, Ross-shire, Scotland

Don't think that I trust this researcher either. — billinghurst sDrewth

birth

• Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.

Name Donald Mc Iver
Gender Male
Birth Date 10 Oct 1852
Birth Place Fodderty,Ross and Cromarty,Scotland
Father John Mc Iver
Mother Catherine Mc Iver

burial

• City of Edinburgh Archives; Edinburgh, Scotland; Edinburgh Burial Registers; Reference: BR0019

Name Reverend Donald Macivor
Burial Age 58
Death Date 21 Jun 1910
Burial Date 24 Jun 1910
Burial Place Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Cemetery Metropolitan Cemetery

Probate

• Commissary Clerk of Edinburgh under the Sheriff Courts Act, 1876. Calendar of Confirmations and Inventories.

Name Rev Donald Maciver, 6 Millerfield Place, Edinburgh
Death Date 21 Jun 1910
Death Place Edinburgh, Scotland
Confirmation Date 8 Nov 1910
Confirmation Place Edinburgh, Scotland
To: Elizabeth MacIver

Name Rev Donald Maciver
Death Date 21 Jun 1910
Death Place Edinburgh, Scotland
Confirmation Date 25 Jun 1935
Confirmation Place Edinburgh, Scotland
To: Katherine Elizabeth Maciver, daughter

Name Elizabeth Maciver
Death Date 20 Apr 1935
Death Place Edinburgh, Scotland
Confirmation Date 13 May 1935
Confirmation Place Edinburgh, Scotland

MACIVER Elizabeth, 31 Hatton Place, Edinburgh, widow, died 20 April 1935 at Edinburgh, testate. Confirmation Edinburgh 13 May to George Gray Murray, her brother , and Katherine Elizabeth, h er daughter, , both of 31 Hatton Place aforesaid, Executors. Will dated 4 March 1929 recorded with other Writes Edinburgh 11 May 1935, Value of Estate, 248:14:5

census

• 1901 Scotland

Name Rev. Donald Maciver
Age 48
Relationship Brother-in-law
Gender Male
Where born Rosshire, Stoathanan
Registration Number 685/5
Registration district Newington
Civil parish Edinburgh St Cuthberts
Town Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Address 13 Leamington Ter
Occupation Missionary (foreign) Prestch England
ED 56
Household schedule number 24
Line 20
Roll CSSCT1901_387
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George G Murray 38 Head
Donald Maciver 48 Brother-in-law
Elizabeth Maciver 50 Sister
Kenneth I Maciver 13 Nephew
Agnes R Maciver 11 Niece
Katherine E Maciver 9 Niece
Alice M Maciver 5 Niece
Maggie Hunter 33 Servant

• 1891 Scotland (of son and father in law)

Name Kenneth I MacIver
Age 5
Relationship Grandson
Gender Male
Where born British Subject, China
Registration Number 685/2
Registration district St Andrew
Civil parish Edinburgh St Stephens
County Midlothian
Address 7 India St
Occupation Scholar
ED 113
Household schedule number 51
Line 9
Roll CSSCT1891_345
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Murray 78 Head, Grocer
Agnes Murray 70 Wife
Mary Murray 38 Daur (Daughter)
George G Murray 28 Son
Kenneth I MacIver 5 Grandson
Jane Dryburgh 51 Serv: (Servant)

• 1851 Scotland (of father in law and future wife)

Name George Murray
Age 37
Relationship Head
Gender Male
Where born Tranent, haddington
Parish Number 685/1
Civil parish Edinburgh St Stephen
County Midlothian
Address 14
Occupation Grocer Master Employs 2 Men
ED 1
Page 4
Household schedule number xi
Line 3
Roll CSSCT1851_180
Household Members (Name) Age Relationship
George Murray 37 Head
Agnes Murray 30 Wife
Elizabeth Murray 4 Mo Daughter
Thos Russell 34 Brother-in-law
Helen Cuthbert 25 Servant
Margt Mackay 17 Servant

death

• Scotlandspeople

MACIVER
DONALD
58
MACLENNAN (mother's maiden name)
M
1910
685 / 5 / 381
Newington

MACIVER
ELIZABETH
84
F
1935
685 / 6 / 268
Newington