Index talk:JPS-1917-Universal.djvu

There's an authoritative transcription of the same edition here, unfortunately it's reflowed so we can't easily add it as a text layer. Prosody (talk) 02:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

WARNING: Big text file -- crashed my browser. Outlier59 (talk) 00:35, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Transcription project

So I guess we're going to have an actual transcription project!

As noted above, this edition has already been digitally transcribed by the publisher, but not in a way that's easy for us to use. I don't mind taking care of that part if everyone thinks it's worthwhile. On the positive side, it provides a high quality text to start with, but it requires a bit more work before proofreading can start and it has the possibility of introducing its own errors.

{{verse}} is pretty cool and provides consistency with other editions of the Jewish and Christian holy texts, allowing us to easily link to the same verse in multiple translations. I marked up the first page of Genesis with it as a test. I'm going to try to make a small javascript tool to make it easy to mark up pages with it later this week. Ditto the header and footer.

There are some existing transcription projects for this at Index:JPS1917-Torah.djvu, Index:JPS1917-Former Prophets.djvu, Index:JPS1917-Latter Prophets.djvu, and Index:JPS1917-The Writings.djvu. Same text, actually, this is from back in the bad old days when Commons had small filesize limits I guess. So we may be able to make use of some of that work.

For style guideish stuff, I've turned curly quotes into straight ones and used {{lang|he|}} for Hebrew text and flattened the two column layout into one. I haven't tried linking textual references yet but it's a good idea.

I'm no good at transcribing poetry so would appreciate direction from someone who knows their way around it. Prosody (talk) 01:54, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Update: Prosody and I have looked at Ruth and Lamentations. Ruth is written in prose, while Lamentations is written in poetic form. Between the two of us, we've agreed on standard formatting. Editors can refer to these two books for examples and guidance. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:28, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Proofing

@EncycloPetey: and @Prosody: I'm skimming rather than reading every dot here, because this text is obviously in very good shape. But I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know if you notice me missing glaring errors. One odd thing I've come across is "Zaphenath-paneah" on page 52 missing its hyphen. Could this be a common problem to watch for? (btw, you don't need to ping me; I'll watch this page until I'm done proofing). Outlier59 (talk) 00:35, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes, there are issues with hyphenation. It seems like source of the plain text gets it wrong in a few places (I noticed two other ones on that same page), and also I sometimes incorrectly joined together proper nouns spanning multiple lines which should normally be hyphenated at that point in the word anyway. Prosody (talk) 00:56, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll watch for the hyphens. Outlier59 (talk) 01:11, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Prosody: The reference on this page doesn't look like small type to me, and I don't know why it's not working. Outlier59 (talk) 12:24, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it needed a nop. Outlier59 (talk) 13:10, 5 October 2016 (UTC)