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Only image in book; should it be larger? feel free; my only thought is of mobile devices, but I do not know how such things go. Londonjackbooks (talk) 10:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just transcluded front matter. The image is bigger in the Main. not sure how it all works yet. Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I add thumbnails, I expect that readers will click on anything they want to look at more closely. A shame it is the only image, what you did looks great. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 12:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I usually do too... Don't set width... Another version (a later one, I presume) has a frontispiece image of the boys fishing. I am assuming the one hosted here is a first edition, first printing, as I came across a for-sale version online inscribed by the author to Florence Earle Coates with the same board color, etc. The other version I came across with the fishing image, has different color boards. Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:50, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder why there are two plates by Wyeth Snr., and whether they were commissioned for this work; the frontispiece in this edition seems to foreshadow an event that will take place in the text. Maybe he did a series of illustrations and you had to but multiple copies to collect them all (I'm kidding. but I know publishers did this in the late 20C). I'm liking his style, btw, I can see why he was popular.CYGNIS INSIGNIS 14:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like I uploaded the "wrong" version... The other version contains four images total. This might answer your question as to whether they were commissioned for the work. I should have looked into the matter further before uploading. Seems the version I uploaded was not a first ed/print(?) Maybe to make up for it, I'll edit/upload the images and include them on the work's Talk page for information purposes. (done) The following gives some more info:

One book that meshed well ideologically with Wyeth's art was John Luther Long's 1914 novel War. Subtitled "What Happens When One Loves One's Enemy," War exemplifies the "romance" of the exhibition's title. Long rose to fame in 1898 with the short story "Madame Butterfly," which Giacomo Puccini turned into an opera using the libretto of an earlier play based on the story. Illustrations such as Wyeth's cavalry charge (above) capture Long's operatically emotional style perfectly. As emotions ran high when the War to End All Wars broke out in Europe that same year, Americans against neutrality ate up the full plate of red meat patriotism served by Long and Wyeth.

Wyeth's mentor was apparently Howard Pyle. Wish I hadn't assumed... Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:09, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Looking closer at the "better" version, the scan quality is not better; some captions are cut off, page nos, some text, etc. We may have the better available version. Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:32, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't change now, too fiddly, the cleanest text conversion is what I worry about (NY Library is my fave). I have sourced other copies when tipped-in pages are 'missing' and, to avoid confusion, noted that was what happened at the Index: and main page. I look forward to seeing what you can hunt out. I had to google Pyle, he made some powerful images that I remembered seeing before. There are four plates total according to this, if you hadn't confirmed that already. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 16:35, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed... Pyle illustrated Stops of Various Quills. First I had heard of him was when I was transcribing that book. Mrs. Coates knew W. D. Howells (the author of Stops). She also corresponded with Long, the author of the present book, and dedicated a poem to him... As I stated earlier, Long inscribed a copy of War to her, with the words, "To Florence Earle Coates, whose songs are fair and true". I found it interesting how Pyle was a mentor to Wyeth... just how everyone was connected... It was a smaller world back then. Wikis make finding those connections easier. Londonjackbooks (talk) 17:07, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Just came across this Wyeth exhibit... Ends tomorrow, however. Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@George Orwell III: I thought to do that as well (make it larger), but it makes it way too large on the MS page, taking up the whole page. Londonjackbooks (talk) 10:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well you can always limit the max-width (see FI's documentation). I'll add | cstyle = max-width: 400px and return to a width of 90%... see if that is more acceptable.

And remember - "too large" is a relative term increasingly affected by changing technology if not simple age; the mainspace copy looked great on my 50' TV for example. -- George Orwell III (talk) 01:30, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I think I can live with that compromise. Too large was from my desktop perspective, and so it was. I do like how FI works (with my general understanding), relative to each device. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 09:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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