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Welcome. Cpiral (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures[edit]

If you're genuinely interested in persuing this work, there are copies of scans available through the Internet Archive, such as this revised edition of 1909. Since the work was published in the United States prior to 1923, and the author died more than 100 years ago, it no not under copyright and is in the public domain.

If you need assistance putting the scan file on Commons, or setting up the initial Index page, let me know and I can assist within a day or two. --EncycloPetey (talk) 09:29, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


A public domain copy of our unfulfilled Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures is at http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/sah/index.htm. Chapter One is already redlinked and ready to go? Why do you say Index page? If we cut and paste and text process, then we could use interwiki links from Wikipedia articles to pages, but not lines, as is customary, within Science and Health here by copying what is done with one of the Bible versions here. Is there another way? (I've not researched templates.)

To achieve the microlink functionality of Bible (American Standard) it seems we might

  • create subpages for each chapter of Science and Health
  • text process the cut and paste
    • delete the side-notes (unless Wikisource has can accommodate them via an existing template)
    • replace the page designations into template Chapter
    • copy the syntax of template Header

as seen at the source of the Luke subpage Bible_(American_Standard)/Luke.

For example, to use Luke 12:49 on Wikipedia as an interwiki link (prefix Wikisourse: aka S:) or as a reference to a cite or note

  • [[Wikisource:Bible (American Standard)/Luke#12:49|I came to cast fire upon the earth]] (verse level) becomes
  • I came to cast fire upon the earth and
  • <ref>[[S:Bible (American Standard)/Luke#12]]</ref> (chapter level) becomes
  • [1]
  1. Bible (American Standard)/Luke#12

It is more elegant at Wikipedia than the equivalent inline references like {{Bibleref2|Luke|12:49|ASV}}. Cpiral (talk) 23:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That all has to do with a change in Wikisource approach and policy over the past 6 years. We want, first and foremost, a faithful transcription of the original text, with an accompanying source file. Stripping out portions of a work and reformatting the result is possible, and in some situations can be considered acceptable here, but in general only once there is a "clean" copy in existence here as well. The ASV Bible you've pointed to is a very old text here, adding by copying and pasting text, but this is usually considered an inferior way of doing things, since it is difficult (or even impossible) to verify that the text accurately reflects the original publication. Wikisource sees verifiability as one of its key strengths; having the Index file available for side-by-side comparison of source and copy is something other websites do not do. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:23, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]