Template talk:New texts/Archive 1

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Protect?[edit]

This appears on the main page, and perhaps should be protected. Since we are an active enough project, perhaps it would be enough for users to leave "new text" suggestions on the talk page here, and a sysop could add them. Dovi 04:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Protection should only be for pages that need it, not pages that might need it. --Pmsyyz 09:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


Should we have some loose form of policy about what order things are placed in? Newest texts at the top, etc? Right now I just look at Page History to gauge what was added when, but it might be useful to have an actual semi-rigid policy. Sherurcij 02:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I believe we should. I always thought people just added new texts to the top (it makes a bit more sense).—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
We do have a loose policy. It says on the edit page "Please keep the number of texts the same, so that it fits nicely on the page. Insert a new text on the top, and pop an old one off the bottom. Thanks.". AllanHainey 13:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)


I seem to use this template too often for my own articles, so I figure I'll try to throw up my suggestions here for 24 hours before posting them - and anybody's free to just find a polite way to tell me to "knock it off". ("Dearest Sherurcij, while your links are I'm sure fascinating, the rest of us don't give a rat's ass, please stop. Sincerely yours, xxxxxx")

Current suggestion = Open Letter to King Fahd from bin Laden

Okay, sucks to your ass-mar Sherurcij (talk) (CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN) 00:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Add?[edit]

Not sure how to submit for addition, as not sysoped, but: Gordon Brown's speech on becoming Leader of the UK Labour Party, 24 June 2007.

New text. 81.109.189.59 15:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

The locking of this template[edit]

This page was locked subsequent to the entry of the last new text on the list. I request that this template be unlocked or that a process of review of new titles be done by admins, who can then add them to the template. The locking is faulty, though not ineffective: you can still see the "edit" tab as opposed to the "view source" tab that appears for pages that are similarly locked. If this template was locked in error, I request that it be unlocked.--Drboisclair 23:07, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, please prevent this template from being locked by cascading protection. --Pmsyyz 01:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the problem is. The protection log says that it's only semi-protected, meaning anons and new accounts can't edit it. Can neither of your accounts edit this template?—Zhaladshar (Talk) 03:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm not a new account, and still cannot edit this page. -- Nevuchadnezzar 10:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
It's the main page that was cascade-protected by MaxSem on 13 June, following a bout of vandalism. This template is only semi-protected. I've removed the cascade protection from the main page now. Now the interesting question is: were you able to make out from the protection message that the protection came from somewhere else? If not, that would warrant a bug report, IMO.--GrafZahl (talk) 13:07, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
I've just made a self-test, the software clearly says "… because it is included in the following cascade-protected page: …". Maybe we should add a helpful sentence concerning this feature on the appropriate page.--GrafZahl (talk) 13:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Holidays[edit]

Based on a conversation I had with FloNight, it seems advantageous to update this template a week before major holidays (if we can), by adding new texts relating to the holiday and then keeping it static for the next week (unless there are newer texts related to the holiday). Then, after the holiday, we replace the eight "Halloween" texts with 8 "even newer texts" ASAP...and then go back to seeing one update a week or whatever. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:William Gordon Stables 05:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

This is an interesting idea. How often should we do it? Should we have World War I tests for November 11 or Plymouth Colony texts for November 22?--Pharos 05:12, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
If we can do it, then I think we should - yes. Ten days before the holiday is what we did this time, though I'd favour saying 7 days in the future if everybody's good with that. Don't want to monopolise the template for too long each month. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Ivan Turgenev 06:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I resisted the urge to use Image:Heart-beat.gif as just a little too over-the-top, even for me ;) Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Sabine Baring-Gould 02:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Add new text[edit]

A Description of a City Shower. Please add. I'm not sure this template should be protected; there are many new texts a day, but no non-sysops can add them... ---- Anonymous DissidentTalk 00:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Ive added A Description of a City Shower. Autoconfirmed users can edit the template. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I keep forgetting that I'm less than 4 days old... Thanks for adding it. ---- Anonymous DissidentTalk 01:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

St. John's Eve, 2008[edit]

Hey, we need a June holiday :) Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:John Masefield 23:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Bastille Day, 2008[edit]

July 14, meaning we'd hijack the New Texts from July 7-14. Can we find enough new works? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:John McCain and Author:Barack Obama 21:22, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding new texts[edit]

Regarding [1] - instead of simply unilaterally making changes and removing texts previously added to the template, let's add new ones to the top. Thanks. Cirt (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Per your talk page, the problem is that this isn't a "List of works added by Cirt", we show restraint in adding new texts, not add five new texts along similar themes in one day. Three US federal bills and two anti-scientology texts, all added by Cirt, do not provide a "wide variety of new texts" for readers. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: e. e. cummings‎'. 21:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Instead of singling me out, can you please cite the policy that discusses this particular page? Cirt (talk) 21:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
This is the third time today I'm going to tell you to stop whining and pretending there's a conspiracy against you. Nobody's singling you out, I'm explaining that it is common sense, that one user cannot monopolise the front page of the project to highlight their own personal opinions. Works typically stay on the template about a week before being replaced...yet you've removed five in the last day, to replace them with your own work. This is not fair to other contributors whose work is being shunted aside to showcase your rhetoric and every little addition you make about renaming a post office. This is a gentle warning to be more considerate in the future, please do continue to add texts slowly to the template...if five of the eight works are all written by you in the last day, perhaps you should re-think adding more and more and stacking the front page with your own work. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: e. e. cummings‎'. 21:33, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I am going to take a break from updating this template. You have not been that civil or mellow with me lately, you seem to be unable to discuss individual pages, policy, or conflicts, without desperately attempting to make that discussion focus on an individual contributor, instead of professionally and politely discussing the matter at hand itself. That is unfortunate but perhaps it is best if we both take a break. Cirt (talk) 21:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Eid 2008[edit]

w:Eid al-Adha begins December 8, so that means finding eight new texts for the template by December 1 -- can it be done? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: e. e. cummings‎'. 02:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Topical collections[edit]

It is a nice idea to have topical collections on this template every so often, as has been done in the past. I would be happy to help out with this in the future. Also perhaps it would be a good idea to post an announcement about this type of collaboration drive in advance of the actual time, in other communal locations in addition to this template's talk page, so as to hopefully garner help and collaboration from more people in the community. Cirt (talk) 12:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't want to clutter up the Scriptorium every month or two; is there another page you had in mind where this could be done? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 21:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I think this page would do nicely. Cirt (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

January 1 would be a nice time to have some texts relating to the New Year. Cirt (talk) 22:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Better text[edit]

[2] - When comparing Commemoration of the Muslim Holiday of Eid ul-Adha and Team Donates Goats to Afghan Camp, Commemoration of the Muslim Holiday of Eid ul-Adha clearly is the better text. It is more directly related and directly discusses the meaning and history of the holiday itself, as opposed to - not. Cirt (talk) 21:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I've put both on for now, but generally it is not a wise idea to remove a text that provides "variety" (a news story, written about the military) with another one that closely mirrors existing texts (We have four or five works by American federal politicians congratulating their constituents and wishing them a happy Eid). Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Hrm, but one text gives a good background and description of the event and its nature, while the other does not. Clearly Commemoration of the Muslim Holiday of Eid ul-Adha is the superior text. Cirt (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
We have two dictionary sources that give an explanation of the holiday in a scholastic fashion, and four/five works that are basically US federal officials saying "This is Eid. Happy Eid". Therefore it seems like there is some level of duplication, and an attempt to have a work that "explains" Eid to readers is better served with the two encyclopaedic articles from the Dictionary of Islam and Notes on Muhammadenism, than in a tiny quip made by a Congressman. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 23:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Object to this characterization. These are not "tiny quips" but rather a survey of important material about the event, summarized in an easily understandable manner. Much better than a news release which only mentions the event briefly. Cirt (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'm going to assume that no matter how much time I put into trying to explain things to you, you're going to say "I object to your explanation". On that note, I'm going to stop trying to explain this to you. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 23:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Again, more uncivil comments, they never stop with Sherurcij, the demeanor and language in each comment always seems to be simultaneously accompanied by incivility, unfortunately. Cirt (talk) 23:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Eight texts at a time?[edit]

What is the standard number of texts in the template at a time ? I was under the impression the number was eight ? Cirt (talk) 22:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

It is eight, but rather than revert your additions and get into long drawn-out fights with you over your refusal to listen to reason - I decided discretion was the better part of valour, and I'd let you add your additional texts for this week and just let it slide. If you'd rather I insisted it be only the eight texts selected for the Holiday a week ahead of time, by all means just ask. After Eid, I'll return to keeping the number at eight. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Instead of this uncivil attitude, it would be more constructive of you to engage on the talk page about the merits of one text over another. Cirt (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Instead of constantly whining about how mean Sherurcij is, it would be more constructive of you to notice that instead of engaging you in a fight, I quietly chose to simply bend a rule to let you have your way - and that is in fact wonderful diplomacy. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:28, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Where is the "rule" you chose to "bend" in the first place? Cirt (talk) 22:35, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It appears at the top, every time you edit the page. Please limit the number of texts to eight, so that it fits nicely on the page. Insert a new text on the top, and pop an old one off the bottom. Try not to have two texts by the same author on this template at the same time, thanks. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. So you "bent" a "rule" in order to re-add a text page you created. Cirt (talk) 22:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't mischaracterise it by showing one edit, without the context. I did not "add" that text, I reverted your removal of it. However, I "bent the rules" and did not subsequently remove the texts you added, since I didn't think it was worth the fight...this fight we're having right now anyways, it seems. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:49, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Not a mischaracterization. The facts are obvious. You "bent the rules" in order to keep as many texts as possible that you had created pages for in the template. Cirt (talk) 22:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh for feck's sake, I don't care who created what text. Look back in history, you'll see I encourage people to help with this project, FloNight was very active with it as I recall - before he/she went a bit inactive. My intention is to keep a variety of contextual texts on the template, not allow one person to hijack it...as you may notice has been a problem pointed out to you on this very talk page, two weeks ago. We focus on substance and scope of a text, not which WS user uploaded it. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Pointed out by you, dictated by you. I disagree with your assessment of "variety" or which texts are superior to others, but you refuse to discuss politely and instead resort to negative inappropriate behavior - seemingly unable to discuss the matter at hand itself, without simultaneously resorting to rudeness. Cirt (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Sherurcij, he is trying to help! If you can work with Cirt, you will have half as much work to do each time you do a special event. Which eight you think are most useful? John Vandenberg (chat) 22:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to "work with him", but you'll notice even when I just shrug and let him have his way, he comes back demanding to know why I'm letting him have his way this time, but in the future I might not. It's like dealing with a petulant child. As I've said, I stood by his addition of a work, and his changing my 2002 text to a 2007 text, both "made sense", however having four or five texts which are all "An American federal politicians wishes everybody merry christmas" or "happy eid" does not make sense, when we should try to have a variety of texts. Failing that though, we can just let the nine texts sit up there and bend the rules this time...if he'll stop whining like a baby that there are no rules...or we're not really bending them...or okay, if there are rules and we are bending them, we're not doing him any favours, it's all a conspiracy to get him. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 22:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It's like dealing with a petulant child. ... if he'll stop whining like a baby ... - More of the same uncivil, bitter negative comments and conduct unbecoming an administrator. Cirt (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
And you are not acting like an administrator who wants to help new contributors to settle in. In the previous section, he has an outstanding comment which you havent replied to. He is trying to understand what rules you are using. What is common sense to you is a mystery to everyone else - the rest of us leave you to make the selections yourself, but Cirt wants to understand the process - I am sure he does not want to be abused by you. John Vandenberg (chat) 22:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Cirt has added a number of works to the project, I appreciate that. However, he has been with the project for two weeks, and every time he seems to try and dictate his view of how "but Wikinews lets me do X!" or "but Wikipedia doesn't do Y!", it seems to turn into a minefield - and my patience is wearing thin with seeing him around every single corner disrupting things before even settling in and acquainting himself with the general rules and policies first. I didn't view it as "refusing to answer his question", as much that I realised it was pointless, because any time I responded, he'd respond again, it was turning into a childish game of "who can get the last word in?", so I tried to maturely drop my end of the conversation and let him "win". At this very instant, there are five pages on my Watched Items list that Cirt is editing, every two minutes, demanding I respond to him...one user cannot monopolise my time like that, starting random discussions in every corner of the project and demanding Sherurcij explain himself. He's welcome to use my talkpage, or his talkpage, or bring up his issues one at a time. But so long as I can't even respond on a talkpage without getting an edit-conflict because he's thought up another snappy way to say "omg, u hate me", yes, I'm going to start choosing conversations to just let him "win" and ignore. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 23:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Note, amusingly, that when I went and explained the reasoning behind it to him quite calmly, rationally and such...he responded with essentially "too bad, I object to your explanation". There's no point wasting three hours of my time arguing with somebody who's just got a chip on their shoulder. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 23:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
It is this kind of impolite and downright rude attitude that makes productive progress difficult. If the rude comments could be separated from the comments about content of pages on this project and discontinued, then progress could be made. Cirt (talk) 23:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Back on the subject[edit]

So back on the subject... I would favor a longer list. French Wikisource has a 20-item-long list and I think this is fine. Yann (talk) 23:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

That could be do-able, as long as it doesn't affect our main page layout -- our mainpage does look like it has a bit more "clutter" (Good clutter, technically, SOTD, COTW, POTM) than fr. -- but perhaps we should just move the template to a horizontal bottom runner? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 23:16, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Yann - Great idea. I would favor constantly favoring newly added texts to the template, further encouraging additions of next texts. This would also provide for more dynamism in the template, much in the manner that w:T:DYK changes every six hours. Cirt (talk) 23:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

New Year 2009[edit]

w:New Years is coming up January 1, so that means finding eight new texts for the template by January 1 -- can it be done? Cirt (talk) 04:19, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

What, are we going straight from Eid to New Year's and skipping Christmas? Angr 13:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Sure we could do that too. Cirt (talk) 15:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
I'd suggest we end Eid on December 9 (day after Eid), then go back to "normal" until December 18th (week before Christmas). Christmas is one of the easiest holidays to stock up on new texts, improving our Wikisource:Christmas collection - so we can have the best new song, best new prayer, best new short story, best new historical headline, etc. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Nikola Tesla‎. 21:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Christmas update is tomorrow Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 04:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


Alright, I've done a short story, a sermon, a carol, a non-fiction description and an early Christian work...and I see Cirt added Holt: Expressing Sense of the House That Symbols and Traditions of Christmas Should be Protected which is an American senator's opinion, that leaves two more spaces, can we find more "different mediums" to put here? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 23:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

More choices

Here are some documents I added to this project recently that relate to Christmas:

A Father's Letter to Santa is cited from the same source, but different from the above and poignant. Feel free to select what you feel is best from the above. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 23:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

As much as I love the father's letter, it seems a bit shaky on copyright grounds, but I think Recognizing the Contributions of the Christmas Tree Industry to the United States Economy is awesome - so let's plan on using it at least. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 23:50, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
A Father's Letter to Santa is not "shaky on copyright grounds". It is public domain. It was published in the Congressional Record. Cirt (talk) 00:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
"This piece was originally written by David Chartrand, a columnist for the Olathe, KS, Daily News." The piece is copyrighted. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 22:43, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
I am seeking clarification from the United States government. From everything I have heard to date, items published in the Congressional Record are public domain. Cirt (talk) 13:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Update: I did some research on this and it is not as cut and dry as I had thought as far as previously copyrighted works that are then read into the Congressional Record, the agency representative I spoke with said that it would be best in any case to contact the original copyright holder - so I am going to tag those applicable pages for deletion. Cirt (talk) 20:44, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Comment

The current presentation looks good. Cirt (talk) 02:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

New Year 2009 - update date?[edit]

When will the update-date be for the New Year 2009-themed entries? Cirt (talk) 14:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

I think our usual is to try for 7 days before major holidays, 5 days before minor holidays. So after Christmas, perhaps a day or two maximum of "return to normal", and then update with New Years texts. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 20:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah okay. Cirt (talk) 22:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

later[edit]

I just completed a 300 page work, and came here to post it, only to find we're running with a theme at the moment. When will this template lapse back into normality? When it does, will someone give Extracts from the letters and journals of George Fletcher Moore, now filling a judicial office at the Swan River Settlement its day in the sun please? Hesperian 12:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I would think that January 2 would be the next time the regular new texts template is reverted to its normal usage.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 15:27, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

New Year 2009 suggestions[edit]

Above are some suggestions of new documents that are related to New Year. I notice we haven't switched from the Christmas theme yet, so the New Year theme could probably run for 7 days. Cirt (talk) 13:38, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I added a few from the list and started New Year; January 1 theme. Feel free to swap out a few for other documents, if there are other relevant new texts available. Cirt (talk) 13:52, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

I think the top five currently in the template are the most poignant, and the bottom three could be replaced with something else. Cirt (talk) 13:56, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Too busy IRL to tweak around, I get the Millennium Wall, the Peace Day...and I like the Y2k text...the rest don't make much sense to me why we're publicising them for New Years. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 01:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
If you check out the documents themselves you will see the relevance for the others. Cirt (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I did read them, my point was that it would be nice to have directly related texts, rather than texts that happen to mention a fact like "On New Year's Eve of 1952, Johnnie's saxophonist fell ill and was unable to make the show." as seen in Honoring Piano Legend Johnnie Johnson. Anyways, not a huge deal. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 01:40, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah okay. Cirt (talk) 02:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Upcoming themes[edit]

January 19, 2009 - Martin Luther King, Jr. Day

This could be the next theme - but the scope could be expanded to a larger theme of civil rights. Thoughts? Cirt (talk) 03:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

January 25, 2009 - Burns Night

This year is the 250th anniversary of the bard's birth. I'm a bit late in suggesting this but plan to add a few poems which can go on the new texts section. AllanHainey (talk) 13:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

January 26, 2009 - Australia Day

An option for January 26. Cirt (talk) 03:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

January 26, 2009 - Republic Day (India)

Another idea for January 26. Cirt (talk) 03:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

We did Australia Day last year, so with "minor" holidays - I think we may be better alternating when there's a choice - we picked up ten new Australian texts last year, ten new Indian texts this year would be good. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Nostradamus‎. 16:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Ah okay. Cirt (talk) 20:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
February 12, 2009 - 200th anniversary of birth of Charles Darwin

-- billinghurst (talk) 15:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. :) Cirt (talk) 18:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

United States presidential inauguration[edit]

Updated with a new theme for United States presidential inauguration - let's keep it up for 24-48 hours. Cirt (talk) 06:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

add Barack Obama's Inaugural Address too. --87.78.34.11 21:57, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Has been done. Cirt (talk) 22:46, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Community discussion on themes[edit]

Wikisource:Scriptorium#Themes on "New texts". Hesperian 13:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Author field for translation[edit]

I added The Lovers of Bassorah to the template - not sure how best to attribute the author field, as it is a translation. Cirt (talk) 12:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

World No Tobacco Day[edit]

May 31, 2009 is World No Tobacco Day. We haven't had a theme for this template in a while, and this would be a nice public health topic to focus on. Thoughts? Cirt (talk) 11:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good! We should also create an index for Wikisource:Health and/or Wikisource:International days or something. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:55, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done [3] -- This theme ends June 1, 2009. Cirt (talk) 12:01, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Update: In response to above suggestion from Jayvdb (talkcontribs), I started an index page, at Wikisource:Health. Cirt (talk) 06:37, 27 May 2009 (UTC)