Index talk:First Folio (West 192)

Quick notes

• This work requires manual entry because no OCR software produces good results.
• The First Folio uses a long s (ſ). Replace those with {{ls}}.
• For the scribal annotations y͏ͤ use {{ye2}} and for yͧ {{yu}}.
• For a w with a c over it wͨ meaning which use {{wc}} .

Other discussion

Other projects for same?

Can we take some or all the initials and images from the other transcription project, e.g. Page:Shakespeare - First Folio Faithfully Reproduced, Methuen, 1910.djvu/27.

@Languageseeker, @Inductiveload, @EncycloPetey: But then shouldn't these projects consult one another? Index:Shakespeare - First Folio Faithfully Reproduced, Methuen, 1910.djvu For instance, there are instructions for the other project at Index_talk:Shakespeare_-_First_Folio_Faithfully_Reproduced,_Methuen,_1910.djvu, though I'm not sure I understand the long-s thing there. Shenme (talk) 06:26, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@Shenme: The Methuen text is an early reproduction with a photo engraving so the images are of a lesser quality. The First Folio was printed at a time when printers used mobile type and tended to correct errors as they printed. So, each First Folio is unique. The goal of this project is to produce as exact of a copy of one specific First Folio which is why there are different requirements. As for the lines, please add a new line between each line of dialogue or stage instructions. Languageseeker (talk) 11:47, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Special abbreviations

This source uses scribal abbreviations, as seen (so far) in page 4 (look for "y*" in page and <!-- comment in edit text)

Seen so far is "y with small e above" and "y with small u above". These are English for "ye" and "you". While modelled on the Latin abbreviations, they doesn't seem to be represented in Unicode.

An example definition of "y with e" which might someday be added to Unicode can be seen at MUFI (search for e781)

 U+E781 LATIN SMALL LETTER Y WITH LATIN SMALL LETTER E ABOVE &yesup;

After searching around I happened upon

U+0364   ͤ   868   Combining Latin Small Letter E

U+0367   ͧ   871   Combining Latin Small Letter U

Using these I can produce correct appearance as yͤ and yͧ

Should these Unicode combining characters be used in the text? How else could the source appearance be reproduced? Shenme (talk) 21:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@Shenme: Thank you for raising this concern and your amazing research. I created the templates {{ye}} and {{yu}} to make these easy to insert and leave room for future improvement. Languageseeker (talk) 23:51, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@Shenme: Created {{wc}} for w with a c over it wͨ.