Index talk:The Romance of Nature; or, The Flower-Seasons Illustrated.djvu

Category:The Romance of Nature -- Several of these images should be cleaned and cropped before just copying them to en.WS —Maury (talk) 03:22, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

In fact I did do a lot of cropping and dust removal before uploading. I suppose I could do some more if its a concern. Moondyne (talk) 05:43, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

My good friend and volunteer co-worker, Moondyne, those images that show dirt do need to be cleaned. I had already decided that I would re-do that work if nobody else would. You are an excellent worker and can, if you prefer, work on those harder "code" situations on en.WS while I, who _cannot do as well as you can_ where code i.e. "mainspace", "pagelist" am befuddled.

The choice as to who will re-do those flower images is totally yours. I don't desire it but I would not leave it as it is. The dirt should not come with the flowers. :-) Either way is fine with me just as long as they are cleaned for the project. I highly respect you and your work. I didn't even know who did those flower images. BTW, did you know that the flower/weed, "dandylion" comes from "dents de leon - [French] - and means teeth of the lion? Those small yellow points from the flower are the "teeth". I tend to think of a lion's mane but dent = teeth. Think of "dents" as dentist who works on teeth--or dentures being false teeth. Perhaps dentures should be called pseudo-dents. Words in translation are amusing. :-) Anyhow, there is plenty of work for all of us. Very Respectfully, —Maury (talk) 06:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

HI Maury. I already started cleaning some and have reuploaded those. If you like to do the remainder you are most welcome and have my thanks. They are:

• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0149.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0154.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0171.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0177.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0183.jpg was Dupe of /177. Fixed.
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0193.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0204.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0210.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0219.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0275.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0291.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0299.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0304.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0310.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0316.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0328.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0343.jpg
• File:TheRomanceOfNature_0348.jpg

The 'dirty' versions of these are at https://www.dropbox.com/sh/991lsm67vww6ait/jureVtmbU1 if it helps. Moondyne (talk) 06:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Title Redirects

Due to Mainspace pages being sectioned by seasons, I assume that we can create anchors for title redirects. Some of the poem titles do not exactly match the TOC titles, however, and I was wondering whether the anchors should follow the TOC title or the poem page title. In at least one case, a poem title is "Pyrus Japonica", with subtitle "The Fairies' Fire"; but the TOC title is "The Fairy-Fire". Which should be considered the "official" title for anchoring purposes in cases like this? Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I have decided (unless anyone objects) to title anchors according to the titles (generally speaking) as they appear on their poem page. I will name title redirects using both TOC titles as well as poem page titles. Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Formatting differences

We have about 2 or three different poetry formatting styles going on, and all of the pages have been validated (ex.)—making it difficult to keep track of differences. Do we want uniformity? Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes! At the risk of saying something stupid, here's a draft style guide for this work:

1. Use {{c|{{larger|xxxx}}}} for poem headings
2. Use {{block center|xxxx}} or {{block center/s}}xxxx{{block center/e}} pairs for poetry blocks
3. Use <br /> for line breaks (avoid <poem>xxxx</poem> )
4. Use {{smaller|xxxx}} or {{block center|{{smaller block|xxxx}}}} for the smaller text/poems (dont use |style=font-size:xx% )
5. Use {{smaller|xxxx}}, not {{sc|blahblah}}, except when BlahBlah is explicitly required
6. Center poems across pages by use of {{block center/s}}xxxx{{block center/e}} in header and footer edit panels or as appropriate.
7. Indent using {{gap}} or {{gap|xem}}
8. Remove spaces before and after emdashes and before punctuation(.,:;)
9. Right align author name inside the block like: {{right|{{sc|Robert Herrick.}}}}

Feel free to modify or expand as I don't particularly care which way we jump, except that we need to be consistent. I do think that something needs to be written down to avoid a big mess for someone to clean up later. Moondyne (talk) 13:20, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the above (i.e., for doing what I didn't want to have to do myself). I'll be going through the work page by page to make sure things are uniform. Sorry if I offend anyone along the way when making changes. My work is not perfect, so correct any of my 'corrections' when you see mistakes I've made. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:27, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

What's your (anyone's) opinion on poetry font sizes in prose sections such as "Spring Memories and Musings"? Example page. I'm thinking smaller block is too small... Perhaps fs90? BWC opted for 100% here and elsewhere. Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:10, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

The font size doesn't look any different to me, so I wouldn't specify a change. Leave it at 100%. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:47, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree with EncycloPetey. Moondyne (talk) 11:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Paragraph spacing in prose sections surrounding poems

The original text itself being often inconsistent, I have, throughout the transcription, set a standard where there is single line-spacing between a poem and the preceding (introductory) text and double line-spacing between the end of a poem and text which starts a new paragraph. If anyone thinks there should merely be single line-spacing all-around—or—double line-spacing all-around, let me know, and I will make the adjustments. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:53, 12 April 2013 (UTC)