User talk:Marc Kupper
Hello Marc Kupper, welcome to Wikisource! Thanks for your interest in the project; we hope you'll enjoy the community and your work here.
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- My pleasure; hopefully I can entice you to stay a little longer this time :-)
- I have made some changes to Order 31-3, moving the text "onto" the image, here: Page:Orders 31-3.jpg .
- This can be done for any individual image, however if there are a series of images, an Index of the images can be created. Two nice examples are Index:Rusk note of 1951 and Index:A Concise History of the U.S. Air Force.djvu
- If you want to try this out, click here: Page:Orders 31-3 Cover Letter.jpg .
- p.s. this week, we are collaborating on Author:William Lyon Mackenzie King
- Thank you John. Having the text on the same page is an excellent idea. When I uploaded Order 31-3 I was wondering at the time how to best show the source for the machine-readable text so that people could verify that I had transcribed it correctly. I ended up doing links back and forth but the side-by-side view works much better, particularly as there's not much text on the image. I don't have time to deal with cleanups tonight but hopefully will be back soon. Marc Kupper 03:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Size 11s on Senate Joint Resolution 26, 21 January 1955[edit]
Gday. I have been and trampled.
These days at Wikisource, we are adding some rigour in that we are trying to match text with available images using our proofreading thingy, and, as there was the image at Commons, I was able to create image versus text for this document, though it is sweeter with a .djvu file with a text layer.
Anyway, I have created the Page: namespace page, dragged the text over, proofread it, marked it so, then transcluded it back.
Your task, if you choose to accept, is to click on the number that takes you to the Page, edit the page, verify the text and click radio button in green square to validate, and safe the page. If you have any questions, or you have more to do, then please do get back to me. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you billinghurst. I compared the text against both the graphic image and the text version I'd created yesterday. The only differences are typographical I did not see guidance for this on H:SIDE. What got my attention are:
- H:SIDE discusses words hyphenated across pages but not on a single page. In this case a "Jer-" "sey" in the source document is transcribed as "Jersey." Using "Jersey" is an improvement but it's not clear how literal transcriptions should be. One option that comes to mind is to use "Jer­sey" in the wikitext so that a proofreader in edit mode would know we did see the hyphen. It'll display as "Jersey" with the hyphen floating in view if you nail the line wraps just right on your monitor. (Amazing, I got it on the first try.
) - In the original the lines are numbered from 1 to 11 without periods. A wikitext "#" drops in periods by default and unfortunately CSS does not seem to have ordered lists without the periods.
- At the very bottom of the source document is a “★I”. I'm not sure what the significance of this was other than perhaps to indicate the end of the text.
- H:SIDE discusses words hyphenated across pages but not on a single page. In this case a "Jer-" "sey" in the source document is transcribed as "Jersey." Using "Jersey" is an improvement but it's not clear how literal transcriptions should be. One option that comes to mind is to use "Jer­sey" in the wikitext so that a proofreader in edit mode would know we did see the hyphen. It'll display as "Jersey" with the hyphen floating in view if you nail the line wraps just right on your monitor. (Amazing, I got it on the first try.
- I also learned today that this particular resolution was never passed into law, or rather, it's not in volume that contains the laws passed in 1955 during that session of the U.S. Congress. I knew the promotion had never occurred. Should this be indicated as part of the transcription? Marc Kupper (talk) 23:43, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- More questions - I'd seen the Page: namespace before but exactly how did you set this document up? The original text was on Senate Joint Resolution 26, 21 January 1955, and the image was at File:Senate_Joint_Resolution_26,_21_January_1955.jpg transcluded from Commons. Are things in the Page namespace, such as Page:Senate_Joint_Resolution_26,_21_January_1955.jpg, "magical" with that image viewer thingy?
- I'll see if I can make DjVu files as I have a similar resolution from 1919 in the pipeline. That one will be fun for OCR as the original document is both a negative image (white letters on brown background) and quite visible is text from either the previous or text page of the document running backwards. Marc Kupper (talk) 23:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
