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2006-03 checkuser (withdrawn)[edit]

The text in the box below was copied from the merged discussion when it was split into the individual users.

Pathoschild and I spoke recently about problems here on Wikisource with cross-project vandals and sockpuppets, and the potential for Checkuser to identify such accounts. Pathoschild expressed the desire to become a local checkuser for Wikisource, but was unsure if there was another individual here who had the technical skills and the desire to become a checkuser. (Foundation policy requires there be two checkusers on a project; if two are not approved, there can be no local checkuser.) As a en.wikipedia checkuser, I have the requisite technical abilities, and I am always willing to serve where needed; I indicated to Pathoschild that I would be willing to serve as the second local checkuser in order for Wikisource to be able to have local checkusers. As such, I am nominating Pathoschild and myself to serve as local checkusers, if the community believes there is need for such. (If there is a more active local user who has the technical knowledge and desire to serve, I will be more than happy to withdraw from consideration.)

More information on checkuser can be found at m:Checkuser. I have made separate voting sections for Pathoschild & I in case others wish to submit themselves for consideration (we can have as many as we like, but must have at least two for the status to be granted at all). Essjay TalkContact 12:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Current checkuser

Just for information I believe Yann already has a checkuser facility.
As a steward, yes, as a local checkuser, no; stewards have the ability to temporarily grant themselves checkuser to perform checks on wikis without local checkusers, but it is more difficult to find a steward to perform a checkuser than it is to have a local checkuser do it. If he's willing to stand as a local checkuser, I'll withdraw. Essjay TalkContact 13:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I noted recently that User:Ambi has checkuser status on WP. She has been an admin here from the early days, but have not been very active in recent months. Apwoolrich 18:12, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Withdrawing self-nom

With the entry of Zhaladshar, I withdraw as I said I would. If a technical advisor is needed, please feel free to ask. Specifically, using the interface is not difficult, but interpreting the results (separating shared IPs from actual sockpuppets, etc.) can be very, very difficult, especially if you are not familiar with the workings of IP addresses; for example, IP ranges, dynamic IPs, proxies used for routing (many countries, especially Middle Eastern ones, route all thier traffic through routing proxies for "control purposes", and blocking one of these shared proxies blocks the whole country (I accidentally blocked all of Saudi Arabia once...)) etc. can result in false positives. Best of luck to the candidates Essjay TalkContact 01:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


For historical reference on why Wikisource's request was denied, see the Wikisource news stories "Voting begins on two for CheckUser access" (30 March 2006) and "Local CheckUser status in doubt" (19 April 2006). —{admin} Pathoschild 21:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)



  1. I see your edits to wikisource are rare & mostly to your own userpage. I think if we're going to give someone the checkuser facility it should be someone whose actually going to be around to check users IPs & who has a history of contributing usefully to wikisource, if not an admin. AllanHainey 13:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
    • This is very true, and nothing I would deny in the least: Wikisource is not my main project (I am an admin on four others, and spend more time on those). However, I am around, even if I'm not actively editing the project: I'm available via IRC and email upwards of 15 hours a day, and am quick to respond to requests. I don't need to be a checkuser here, and am quite willing to withdraw if someone else (such as Yann) is willing to serve as the second one; I'm simply offering to do it so Wikisource will have the two required for status to be granted. Essjay TalkContact 13:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
  2. Sorry, but I oppose for Allan's reasons.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 15:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
  3. Sorry, me too. I know how highly stretched you are on other Wiki area, and I feel its better to spread the load. But thanks for all your efforts on this. Apwoolrich 18:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


  1. I think you would be a very responsible person to have checkuser permissions. However from what little I have read about workings of Checkuser on Meta, I do not think it is so overly technical that we cannot have a more active member of the community as the second nominee. I am willing to support you if I find out that those initial impressions are wrong.--BirgitteSB 17:14, 28 March 2006 (UTC)