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Please use informative section titles that give some indication of the message. This page was last archived 04 March 2010 (archives index, last archive).

CrossActivity[edit]

Hi,

Your CrossActivity script lists the last date that I performed a bureaucrat action here on Wikisource. But as you know I am not a bureaucrat. I had a look, and that day I put someone in the autopatrolled group. It seems that anything in the User Rights Log is being treated as a bureacrat action. I'm not fussed if you don't consider this a bug worth fixing. I just thought I would mention it.

Hesperian 12:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hesperian. I know about that issue; administrators could not set any rights when it was written. I'm not sure how easy this will be to fix, but I will look into it when I rewrite the script using the new tools framework I'm working on. —Pathoschild 20:45:34, 04 March 2010 (UTC)
Roger that. Hesperian 23:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

cleanup()[edit]

Hi,

I don't know how aware you are but a little group of us have been building scripts that we register in the sidebar using your regexTool() function. Billinghurst is talking about putting the main one, cleanup(), into a gadget. This is, I think, a good idea, but I have a couple of concerns. One is that you have not "published" regexTool() and could change it at any time. Another is that at the moment these scripts only work because we have your Custom regex gadget turned on. It would help if you would say "Yes, I am aware that you have been using this function, and I am happy to consider it a public interface, and I promise to try not to break it when I tweak my code, and if you want to access it directly without installing Custom regex then you should add this import line to your script: ...."

Hesperian 11:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hesperian. I search for scripts using the framework before I commit any breaking changes. If you list your script pages in the script's user list, I'll make sure to update them if needed. There's an upcoming rewrite that will modularize the script into a reusable object; this will make it possible to use individual components without necessarily using the whole script. It will also be possible to have multiple instances interacting seamlessly, so you could (for example) have a separate instance for cleanup() just in case the user doesn't have the framework enabled. —Pathoschild 21:35:11, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Relocating the regex form for the Page: namespace[edit]

The location of the custom regex form in the Page: namespace is a little problematic as it appears beside the image, and hence pushed down the text box. I cannot work out the id name of the box/form for custom regex, so would you mind telling me how to juggle the sections around in my monobook.css to either put it after the these two sections and before the edit, or before the image alternatively before the toolbar so that I am not losing the side by side aspect. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:59, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi sDrewth. I tried adding code to make it configurable, but an issue in the underlying framework was causing infinite loops in Chrome. I'm planning a rewrite to jQuery as soon as I finish my current rewrite of Ajax Sysop and StewardScript, so I'll make sure to make that configurable when I do. —Pathoschild 00:46:46, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
Fair call. I'll be patient. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:28, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-TemplatePreloader.js and year parameter[edit]

I tried to look to add year to the Gadget, if there was no forward slash in wgTitle, however it seems that I am just a confused bunny in the spotlights. My revert is [1]. Your slap and tickle would be appreciated, and apologies ahead of time for my inabilities. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Added; you did it correctly. :) —Pathoschild 01:28:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

After Death (Rossetti)[edit]

Pathoschild: You have protected this article. However, it needs an amendment: Category:Poems to Category:Early modern poetry. Can you do that please? Thanks.--Longfellow (talk) 17:17, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Done; thanks. —Pathoschild 19:02:54, 06 May 2010 (UTC)

Mysterious work of French history[edit]

Hi Pathoschild—I see you're a speaker of French, so if you have the inclination to do some historical research, I have a challenge for you. I'm proofing Page:Lectures on Modern History.djvu/189, by Lord Acton. It was written around 1900. He refers to a work called Histoire Générale, and calls it "new" (whether that means "subsequent" or "recent", I don't know). Other than that, however, he gives no further information about it. Previously in this chapter he refers to French authors Guizot and Berdier. I can't find much about Berdier, but Guizot wrote something with a similar title, fr:Histoire générale de la civilisation en Europe, in 1828 (according to the 1911 Britannica). According to that same article, Guizot again applied himself to history later in life (1850s and '60s), but does not mention a re-release of his Histoire Générale.

I suppose it's possible that Acton is referring to an English translation of the work, but this seems highly unlikely, as Acton spoke French, and refers to it by its French title.

If you have the time and inclination, I'd be interested in knowing if my conjecture is correct. Perhaps there is more in-depth material on Guizot somewhere, or a French edition of his work dating from the late 19th century? Or perhaps it's another author entirely? Let me know if you discover anything—thanks! —Spangineerwp (háblame) 20:27, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Spangineer. I looked into it, but couldn't find the work or passage he's referring to. I didn't find any references to the Huguenots in the Histoire générale de la civilisation en Europe, and couldn't find any other Histoire générale backing his statement. Unfortunately I found the subject and known information too vague to pinpoint his source. —Pathoschild 01:09:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah well; thanks for the effort! That's the problem with Acton; he read everything, and thinks everyone else does too =). —Spangineerwp (háblame) 14:23, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Dumb question[edit]

Looking at http://en.wikisource.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo&siprop=general%7Cnamespaces%7Cnamespacealiases%7Cstatistics We have a weird setup that some of the namespace don't have subpages, yet the equivalent talk pages do. From my viewpoint that means that we don't have alignment between talk pages in Template: ns if we put a / in it. — billinghurst sDrewth 07:38, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Help:Licensing compatibility[edit]

Help:Licensing compatibility is mostly created by you pulling bits together though some of the discussions listed. The referred discussions seemed to me to not consider {{PD-EdictGov}}, so I have started that conversation at Wikisource:Possible copyright violations#Help:Licensing_compatibility#Non-derivative to discuss. (Just so you know) — billinghurst sDrewth 10:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

*nod*. —Pathoschild 16:56:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Template:Disambiguation[edit]

Would you be so kind (& clever) to make Template:Disambiguation colour-code its top box to align with the namespace of its appearance. Off the top of my head, I think that the only requirement for change would be the Author: namespace, however, I could be wrong. Thanks if you can. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:52, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi sDrewth. Do you have a table or template listing those colours? —Pathoschild 16:54:01, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Oops (excuse delay). There is a big splash of this discussion at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Header templates with the colours shown; though in consideration of the occasional changes, is this something that we would look to partially set through common.css which I believe happens with class=headertemplate, hence changes are further reflected (I think I am making sense though maybe I am not). — billinghurst sDrewth 14:10, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
(Sorry for the delay; I'm temporarily without Internet access at home.)
I added a CSS class to the template, so it's now possible to add per-namespace styles on disambiguation templates. For example, the following in Common.css will apply the author colours to disambiguation templates in the author namespace, as well as the author template:
.authortemplate,
.ns-102 .disambiguation .headertemplate {
         border: 1px solid #BEA2A2;
         background-color: #E4D8D8;
}
Alternatively you can make all header instances in the Author namespace adopt author colours with .ns-102 .headertemplate. —Pathoschild 17:52:46, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Adding regex search links to left sidebar[edit]

Hi. Hope that your connectivity is going to be returned to you soon, and that this note finds you, and she who must be obeyed, well. Whenever you have the time, I am interested in looking to get the ability to put some custom searches into my left toolbar, in near the rmflinks, and not sure how to code the links. I am looking to do a series of searches based on {{PAGENAME}} {{BASEPAGENAME}}; and others for when I am building author pages. While it is not exactly a regex, I was looking for guidance on how to construct these search links. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I'll poke you about it on IRC. —Pathoschild 21:00:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

regexToolWithShortcut()[edit]

Hi Pathoschild,

I forked regexTool() into regexToolWithShortcut(), so that I could invoke some of my scripts through keyboard shortcuts. I'd prefer to see this functionality somehow merged into your menu framework, though that is of course entirely up to you. When you have time, please have a look at User:Hesperian/vector.js and let me know what you decide.

Hesperian 04:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Common.js ... Secure links and BilingualLink[edit]

Some help. After a post to wikitech-l about secure links, in reply Platonides said to look at commons:MediaWiki:Common.js/secure.js and "<=> links from [Extension:DoubleWiki Extension] ... That's a bug in BilingualLink() function in MediaWiki:Common.js. Talk with Pathoschild." I was going to link import the script into the Common.js file, then thought that this may not have been a good practice, so it is added though commented out. Would you be so kind to put onto a TO DO WHENEVER list a review of the script, and a poke ab BilingualLink()? Thanks if you can. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. —Pathoschild 06:00:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Was there an opinion on the practice of imports into common.js. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Importing scripts into Common.js is fine, and commonly done on some wikis (like enwiki). —Pathoschild 23:01:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Page numbering[edit]

Nope, that was an oversight. Correcting now, thanks. --Eliyak T·C 02:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Re edit JeepdaySock (talk) 17:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Dada_Manifesto_(1918,_Tristan_Tzara)[edit]

Your deletion of Dada_Manifesto_(1918,_Tristan_Tzara) was ill advised, see the explanation http://copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm

Now if you can find a copyright on the English translation, that may have had some merit, but in the future, do try and either leave some half decent notes or cite where you are getting your idea as to how the copyright is in effect.unsigned comment by 69.171.164.144 (talk) .

The process to a request undeletion, or the review process, is through Wikisource:Possible_copyright_violations. Usually it is through that process we have that discussion, so check the archives from that page at the appropriate time. Billinghurst (talk) 22:47, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Hello 69. The deletion discussion was archived to Wikisource:Possible copyright violations/Archives/2006-07#Dada Manifesto (1918, Tristan Tzara); you can find the deletion discussion through the "What links here" link in the sidebar. The page was deleted because there is no information available on the translation's copyright status. The default assumption in such cases is that copyright was not waived. —Pathoschild 23:00:54, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Updating the common.js file[edit]

Gday. Just saw the following in Mediawiki:Common.js

/*************
*** Execute JS file in MediaWiki namespace with &usejs parameter on any page
*** by [[m:user:Pathoschild]] <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Usejs>
*************/
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="'
  + 'http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pathoschild/Scripts/Usejs.js' 
  + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

From what I have seen written we should be looking to update these, where possible, to ResourceLoader scripting, and no more document.write. Are you able to modernise those bits, or is this part of a different overarching plan? Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:49, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Mr Sticky nose again. Just wondered whether you had considered sticking some of these scripts at mw:Snippets. Looking at our common.js/css files they seem heavily loaded with archaic components based on old ways and may need a refresh. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:12, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
I recently started a slow migration of my tools in use to all the new stuff. For example, you might be interested in the new pre-release version of TemplateScript, a complete rewrite. It now uses all the new JavaScript, is compatible with all skins, addresses a slew of problems with the old design, and has new script support. The regex menu framework is no longer in development; some of its useful functionality is (or will be) merged into TemplateScript, which supports both templates and scripts.
As for this case — usejs is ancient, and I don't think anyone is actually using it. I have no plans to update the code. I think you can simply remove it from common.js. —Pathoschild 05:44:36, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

sul problem[edit]

I'm not sure if you are the right person to ask, but my sul has not worked at en.wiktionary for some time now. I've not encountered any other problem with it, it works fine at any other sister-site I visit. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 13:05, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Strange; it's properly unified in the database. Do you get logged in automatically on other Wiktionaries like frwiktionary? Has this only happened since the last time you logged in globally, or does it happen consistently? If you haven't already, try logging out globally and logging back in. You can also try asking in the #wikimedia-tech channel on freenode. If all else fails, unmerging and remerging enwiktionary might fix the problem. —Pathoschild 18:33:56, 08 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, and an apology. I have managed to get one browser to behave by allowing a cookie, it seems I accidentally denied accepting them at one stage. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 09:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Blocking[edit]

I demanding a test block in 387 seconds. 1.55.104.176 09:14, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Old proxy blocks[edit]

Gday, if you have a peek at https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:BlockList&offset=20070516232102 you will see some really old proxy blocks. Do these need to remain? I would have thought that there were better and active means by global users to manage these. If they are appropriate to stay, okay. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:40, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Billinghurst. It should be pretty safe to unblock them; proxies are now blocked globally by stewards. —Pathoschild 13:27:59, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikisource User Group[edit]

Wikisource, the free digital library is moving towards better implementation of book management, proofreading and uploading. All language communities are very important in Wikisource. We would like to propose a Wikisource User Group, which would be a loose, volunteer organization to facilitate outreach and foster technical development, join if you feel like helping out. This would also give a better way to share and improve the tools used in the local Wikisources. You are invited to join the mailing list 'wikisource-l' (English), the IRC channel #wikisource, the facebook page or the Wikisource twitter. As a part of the Google Summer of Code 2013, there are four projects related to Wikisource. To get the best results out of these projects, we would like your comments about them. The projects are listed at Wikisource across projects. You can find the midpoint report for developmental work done during the IEG on Wikisource here.

Global message delivery, 23:22, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

2000 BCE to 1000 BCE birth and death dates categories[edit]

I nominated these categories for deletion at WS:DEL. Join the discussion if you wish. ResScholar (talk) 21:37, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know; I have no objection. —Pathoschild 19:01:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! I want to add that my proposal has inspired a larger discussion in the same forum about lumping and splitting author eras (possibly in imitation of the work era categories) and the best way to navigate those categories, which may make use of red links, a discussion which, although originally poorly addressed by me, I am now trying to accommodate in a larger forum should anyone besides myself wish to continue it. Please join if you take an interest. ResScholar (talk) 06:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)