Wikisource talk:Featured text candidates

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http://browsershots.org/[edit]

It may be worthwhile recommending that nominations for FTC be tested through a site like http://browsershots.org/ I know that I am pretty one or two dimensional when it comes to thinking of all the browser types and how each might render :-/ Billinghurst (talk) 01:28, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

That's a great tool. Apparently there is a cap per website unless there is an account. Should we create a "Wikisource" account for all of us to use and to link to for login from ws? - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:39, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Created a generic login:

Username: Wikisource

Password: engwiki

-Theornamentalist (talk) 03:07, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Charles von Hügel[edit]

Does anyone know what happened to Charles von Hügel? It was the featured text for August 2009 but it is not on the list. I can't find anything about it being delisted (like Charles Kennedy's speach, which was deleted as a copyright violation). Is the list wrong or is this text no longer featured? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 14:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

The person who contributed the work and took it through FTC later voluntarily demoted it; I don't know why. Hesperian 00:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I can't find any good reason why it was demoted. I don't think it can be demoted by a particular user. It went through a process to get promoted, it should go through a similar process to be demoted. I say we restore it to its rightful place again since there seems to have been no justification for the change.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 04:58, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
In that case, I've re-added the missing elements. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:26, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

The Art of Nijinsky[edit]

Have the issues with this text been resolved? I think so, personally, but I can't really see the negative point of view here to begin with. I ask as it is coming to the end of the month and this technically has the most support (there is certainly no outright opposition to it). If not, what actually still needs to be done? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I had initially raised concern about the amount wikilinks (out of en.ws) but I certainly support it. - Theornamentalist (talk) 03:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Is one vote enough?[edit]

We keep having periods of no featured text (or repeats of last year's featured text). As of June 2012, we are actually repeating the 2010 featured text because nothing was chosen in 2011 either. I've tried to do this for a few months and aimed for a minimum of two supports. However, is is acceptable to feature a text on only one support? This would make it easier to actually feature something. Given the lack of attention this page appears to get, it seems the best way forward for the time being. As a bonus question, is is OK to update the June 2012 FT even though June has already started? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:06, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I vote that one vote is enough in the context that you present. However, what if there are two works with one vote--do we have dual featured texts? (Yes, why not?) I firmly believe that every month should have a different featured text--and perhaps all of the featured texts should be so noted as featured texts for all time if possible. There should never be periods of no featured text or repeated featured text. We have a lot of good works that should eliminate those two instances. WS would look lame if it had no featured text! I prefer two or three featured texts if we have them lest a good text would be left in the shadows where we endeavor to remove these old books. Respectfully, —William Maury Morris IITalk 02:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
The pace of Wikisource is more of a monthly cycle at the moment. Hopefully in the future it will pick up. If we get more than one text approved in a month, it can be held for a future month, which will help solve the problem of having no new featured text and having to repeat one from last year. (November appears to be a particularly bad month, the 2009 featured text was repeated in 2010 and 2011.) Once the pace picks up and (for preference) we have a "buffer" of a few months just to be sure, we can try moving to bi-weekly, weekly, and then maybe daily. At the moment Black Beauty looks like it will be October's selection, with The Jewish State as a potential November. (NB: Old featured texts are still listed as such, with a star in the title and sorted into Category:Featured texts.) - AdamBMorgan (talk) 17:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Adam, I saw a very nice book when browsing recently that (I think you did) and that work should be a featured text if it wasn't. It is a book on Nepal. I have no interest in the old story of "Black Beauty" (if it is the horse) or "The Jewish State". I think we should have two featured texts, one serious and historical or scientific and another more colorful and pleasing to the soul such as that "Comic" you, (or Theornamentalist ?) someone mentioned. In length, one should be short and the other long or two medium sized ones (page count and based on difficulty) so that we can have two works per month. What did you conclude with your question and feedback about one vote being enough? Oh, cheerful me, have a great day, Adam. —William Maury Morris IITalk 15:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Do we protect the Page namespace?[edit]

Another question: Should pages in the Page namespace be locked as part of the featured text process? I've done this with September (Mexico, as it was and as it is) using the cascade option but it has not been done in the past (or not in any of the texts I checked). Logically, protecting the Page namespace is more important for text integrity than the main namespace. On the other hand, it stops people being able to fix typos or other errors. The Page namespace is also a little more obscure than the main namespace; I doubt most vandals would know how to vandalise the text that way. So, I'm asking for opinions on what needs to be protected in a featured text? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:31, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

I vote to lock it and if someone finds an error then that person can contact an administrator. Errors do happen but I feel it is safer being locked. Respectfully, Maury ( —William Maury Morris IITalk 02:10, 27 August 2012 (UTC)


I'm opposed to protecting featured texts at all. I have never yet seen someone vandalise a featured text, but I have seen fixes to featured texts months or even years after validation. A simple punctuation fix to a featured text could be the hook that brings us a great new editor. Hesperian 02:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I am not as experienced as Hesperian in watching over featured texts over the years, month by month. I have paid little or no attention to them until now. With that being stated I would suggest this. From my own recent (hours ago) experience in finding two spelling mistakes and watching Theornamentalist resizing his text in some areas he has worked, it perhaps would be a good idea to allow a period of time for text to be looked over once again after people know what the featured text/s will be -- but after that time lock the featured texts. This is my take. But Hesperian states that s/he has "never yet seen" anyone vandalise a featured text which causes me to wonder why that has never happened. It looks like a prime target for vandals to me after all is said and *enough time has passed*. Kind regards to all, —William Maury Morris IITalk 03:14, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I would have expected some vandalism but if not, we can try leaving October's text unprotected and see what happens. Then go to Scriptorium for an official change of policy if everything is fine. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 17:49, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Looking ahead[edit]

This is just an estimate of how the near future looks, assuming the following texts are acceptable and thoughts on timings are respected. From the available potential featured texts:

October 2012: Halloween themed month - trial of four or five different texts including Betelguese, a trip through hell.
November 2012: Bull-dog Drummond? No timing issue but this is the next available text in the next available slot.
December 2012: Black Beauty, for Christmas (135th anniversary on 24 November 2012).
January 2013: The Art of Nijinsky, 2013 is the 100th anniversary of publication and this is the first available slot in that year.
February 2013: (none yet)
March 2013: (none yet)
April 2013: A Jewish State to coincide with the 2013 Israeli Independence Day.
May 2013: Amazing Stories, to coincide with the 2013 Nebula Awards.

Thoughts, comments, objections or questions? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:06, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Looks exciting, especially the various timed themes! :) -- Cirt (talk) 12:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Looks great to me! I think the Halloween one should be great for some of the shorter works (Betelguese included) whereas Amazing Stories should definitely have its own month, given the breadth of the publication. What else can we scrounge up for Halloween?
In the heat of the excitement for the themed month thing, I started working on another "though Hell" text. Do you think we could simply use the {{Random number}} in some way for alternating the FT during the Halloween season? I know Wikibooks uses this for their main page. I can look into it tonight if you think it's an appropriate, if not simpler, way to handle several texts within a month, without a given preference to them. - Theornamentalist (talk) 13:33, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
I already use something like that on Portal:Featured texts, for the past text. I can easily implement it for October if we want to do it that way. Random selection will solve the problem of timing within the month. I'll test it in a moment.
To see a quick and dirty version, go to Main Page/sandbox. The text and components can all be refined later and there are only three options at the moment (so you may get the same one a few times in a row) but as a proof of concept I think it works. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 17:31, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikisource Featured Texts on Facebook & other Social Media[edit]

Brothers and Sisters, let us not forget Wikisource Social Media. While we ferret out whatever is to be displayed on Wikisource as a Featured Text for the month of X, there are many excellent works that would be left behind——"buried" once again as it were in our own archives or walled up by the likes of Poe. Therefore, let us not forget placing works on Social Media areas——those not chosen as Featured Texts of the month displayed by our beloved Wikisource. —William Maury Morris IITalk 19:43, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Portal:Romanes Lecture[edit]

All of the works except the text in French (1921) have been validated. Could this series as a whole be a candidate for Featured Text? If so, what would be required to bring it up to standard if it is not already? Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Two of the lectures—The English National Character and Humanism in Education are validated, but are works within works that as a whole are not validated. The rest are fully validated stand-alone works. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:36, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Just some added info: May 2014 marks the 120th anniversary of George Romanes' death. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:47, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I think this can work as a nomination, so I'm copying it to the non-talk page. A link to the 1921 text on French Wikisource would be nice but should not be necessary. I think "The English National Character" and "Humanism in Education" are OK as they are. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 20:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)