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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 11:26, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

I've been proofing one of your books and have had an anomaly happen a number of times. I edit a page, preview, then click the yellow radio button to change status to proofread, and click on save page. When the system shows me the finished side-by-side, I'm getting the red-background message that the page has to be proofread. When I go back to edit, status is blank even though yellow button is engaged. I click on red radio button, reclick yellow button (status changes to proofread), and save page. Now on second attempt, I get the yellow-background message that the page is proofread and need validation. Do you have any idea why is this happening? Note that this doesn't happen with every page, just enough to be an annoyance. Humbug26 (talk) 17:57, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Help me request removed from lack of answer, and the fact that I finished proofing the book. Humbug26 (talk) 18:57, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
In answer to your question, I don't know. I see it on rare occasions, and it is that the page is not saving at all, and just showing the previous version (if it exists). Some sort of saving error and a mediawiki issue. Please do report it more formally if you are seeing it repeatedly and please note the circumstances, eg. page, date and time, and how long the page had been opened prior to save. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


Apologies from the community missing your recent "Help me". :-/ Do feel welcome to use Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help which is usually the quickest way to get some assistance.

With section start and end tags, like you removed at Page:The Firm of Gridlestone (1890).djvu/95, these are used to split a page when transcluding, like in The Firm of Girdlestone/Chapter 11. With the sections it allows us to selectively extract part of the text, so if they are in place, they will have been put their purposefully, and in most cases should be left in place. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


Congratulations on finishing the work The Garden of Romance. Please now feel well-chuffed and add the work to Template:New texts so that it can make an appearance on the main page. You will be looking to have something like
{{new texts/item|The Garden of Romance|[[Author:Ernest Rhys|]] (ed.)|nowiki=yes|year=1897}}
Add it to the top of the list, and bump the bottom one out of the list to the archive lower on the page. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:05, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Billinghurst. I followed your validations so that I could pick up some pointers, especially for the formatting. Not too experienced on that part yet (real newbie!). Glad I could help get an oldie through the system. Now on to Twilight of the Souls, another orphaned project. Love those novels. Humbug26 (talk) 01:35, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
You have done some fantastic work, with next to no typos, and my changes have been more some of my preference/learnings in formatting over my time editing to make things easier/robust. You already had much of the templates picked up, and even showed me some that I hadn't noticed before.

Do feel that if there is stuff missing in the help pages or that is not well-reflected and that you have learnt, that it can be added. *If* I follow your next work (noting that I hate lots of he said, she said formatting!!!), I will leave more for you do in the main namespace with the transclusions, and you can prod me for any help or review. I think that you have edits in the page: ns well under control. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:59, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Twilight of the Souls[edit]

@Billinghurst: I've completed proofreading the first book (actually book 3 of 4) of this series. I added to New Texts as you previously showed me. Also tried my hand at the transclusion process. Please check on this. A couple of things of note:

  • The headers for these 4 books were set up in 2009 at time of project creation, therefore, using the old header template. As this is a translated work, how should this have been indicated (on just the contents page or all pages)?
  • Where would page 7 go?
  • Use of roman numerals is now passé, I believe. Old material stays as is?

These mainspace pages were not set up by me, so am still not quite sure on the complete procedure of transclusion but I'm getting closer for you to move on to other activities than following my efforts. Humbug26 (talk) 21:10, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Index:Twilight of the Souls (1917).djvu Magic. I have had a hack at the lead pages. We try to replicate the work for page number, especially as each page number is an anchor, allowing us to link to a page if wish, often through internal refs in non-fiction works. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:17, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Updated scripts[edit]

Hello Humbug26. I updated your proofreading scripts to the latest version from Wikisource:TemplateScript. This adds a new Special:TemplateScript page to configure your scripts, and enables compatibility with upcoming features. Let me know if anything breaks. :) —Pathoschild 03:23, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

The Czar, A Tale of the Time of the First Napleon[edit]

@Billinghurst: — I've found my niche: validating, and reading and fixing validated titles. Most formatting is already done; however, I'm always ready to learn some new things.

I'm now ready to validate this project when I noticed that the chapter numbers in the validated TOC, especially the second page, scrunch into the chapter headings. After a couple of hours of searching the system on your love-to-hate dotted TOC page listing template, I've determined I should update the TOC with chapter-width to be greater than 2.5em, or is it because I use IE11? If you use a different browser and everything looks fine, then it's just on my end.

In case you think Why bother?, chapter XXVII and chapter XXVIII both appear to read as XXVII, even on the transcluded page. This is not a good commentary of the time and effort put forth here. Your opinion, please. Humbug26 (talk) 05:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, want to talk to me about one of the templates that I most detest? Brave! I suggest taking the matter to WS:Scriptorium/Help on this issue. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
Thank your for validating this book. It was one of my earliest contributions hence some of the old-fashioned methods of doing things. Hope you enjoyed the read. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:21, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Beeswaxcandle: You're welcome, and yes, I did enjoy reading this. Humbug26 (talk) 02:05, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


Have you migrated over from Distributed Proofreaders too? I am working on a Proofreaders Guide for Wikisource based on DPs… Cheers, Zoe — Zoeannl (talk) 05:19, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, Zoe. Yes, I'm another DPer. I originally joined DP July 2013. Three weeks later, when I found DP too confining and the queues too rigid at the time, I joined DP Canada and am still active there. I joined here when DPC had a major crash July 2015; had to do something until the DPC system returned. I have noticed that you have been creating under your userpage various "help" pages, as the official help pages cannot be touched without lengthy discussion. I have used a couple of them in the last year, notably Indexes and Table of Contents. I didn't realize that you also duplicated and Wikisourcified (groan) the DP user guide. You are certainly quite busy! Humbug26 (talk) 17:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)