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Again, welcome! Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 05:30, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Nice work[edit]

Hi Jimreagan. I noticed your work on Konrad Wallenrod and I must say you seem to have picked the Wikisource way up very quickly indeed! Very neat-looking!

I have taken the liberty of block-centring the first two pages of the poem, as this makes it easier when transcluding (notice how the "end" template is in the page footer, so it isn't transcluded - this means it will all go in the same block and the left margin will line up nicely). You can also apply the block-centre from the main namespace if you prefer. I prefer to do it in the Page: namespace, as it provides separation between formatting and display, but in the end it is up to you as the main editor on the work.

You can find some useful helper scripts at User:Inductiveload/Regexp toolbar.js. Particularly helpful should you decide to do it that way is the "blockcentermid()" function which will put a black centre start and end in your header and footer in one click. Additionally, the "cleanup()" script will sort out the spaces before punctuation and a few common OCR errors. You can see more about how that script is pulled in at User:Inductiveload/common.js.

If you want help with anything, just leave a message here, or come to my talk page. Welcome to Wikisource! Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 05:45, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Sonnets from the Crimea[edit]

Hi, I've just validated this work for you. I've simplified a few things and thought I'd drop you a brief note about them.

  • The {{Center}} template covers multiple lines and so doesn't need to be repeated for each line unlike the italics.
  • The block center /s and /e templates only need to be used when a poem goes over a page break. I've simplified them all to just using {{block center}} around each sonnet. This also means that we don't need to use the block center templates on the transclusion pages.
  • The {{}} template is one of my bugbears. The spaces it puts in on either side of the em-dash do not show up consistently on various browsers/computers as hairspaces (on the laptop I'm using at the moment they're showing up as em-spaces). Also the spaces act as 'breaking spaces'. This means that a line of text could potentially begin with an em-dash—something that should never happen in books (newspapers get away with it because of their narrow columns).

Now that the work is finished please feel free to put it up on the list of newly added works on the Mainpage. You do this by editing {{New texts}} and adding {{new texts/item|Sonnets from the Crimea|Adam Mickiewicz|1917}} to the top section and moving the oldest one in that section to the top of the second section. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Fantastic work of completing a book already! One more thing is that a "direct" transclusion such as {{Page:Sonnets.djvu/34}} is better done by the special "pages" tag (not template), as this allows multiple page ranges, section transcluding, add page links (edit: with automatic page numbering based on the index page numbering) in the left margin, permits dynamic layouts and adds a progress par to the top of the mainspace page to show the proofreading status. This would be done here by: <pages index="Sonnets.djvu" from=34 to=34/>. You can read more at H:SIDE. Cheers, Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 18:37, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I was kind of cheating with that one - I had already proofread it for Project Gutenberg - but I figured it would be easier than Wallenrod was, so it'd be better to practice with. I think I used 'pages' on Wallenrod, or at least most of it. -- Jimregan (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Yep, it was really fast. Sorry if I jump in … I noticed that these Sonnets are also listed as individual works in Author:Adam Mickiewicz, either as blue links (I redirected one from an already existing page to avoid duplication) or as redlinks. It would be worthwhile to take a further step in improving the author's page, maybe creating redirects for now, to be converted to disambig pages if further translations will arrive in the future. Bye --Mpaa (talk) 19:03, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking more of removing those links, actually. There's something lacking about those sonnets as translations, but (IIRC) there is no other translation that's in the public domain. -- Jimregan (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I am not an expert in the field. I just noticed that 1) they map to the work you have worked on and 2) they were already present there (also as stand alone page, see the history of The Ackerman Steppe). Just do what you think is best then :-) --Mpaa (talk) 20:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm not an expert either, I just happen to have read the originals and disliked the translation :) As it happens, a lot of results turn up for this translation (which may be a direct result of having posted it to Project Gutenberg, because I remember it being difficult to track down before that) so maybe it's best to use it. -- Jimregan (talk) 01:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)