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Collaborative French Translation Needed

The Two Mules

Le Grand Meaulnes

Translation:French Nursery Rhymes

Request to unlock page

Hi Sherurcij, Could you do me a favour & unlock my userpage User:AllanHainey as I see its locked, I'may've locked it years ago & forgot about it since. Thanks AllanHainey (talk) 15:09, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sic

The sics were removed because the words were not misspelled. Eclecticology (talk) 23:45, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Dictionary of all religions

Thank you for your praise. I wasn't sure the formating was correct. I dropped a comment on an "old" WS project page, just in case someone's still working on it. This new dictionary isn't only a Bible dictionary, but it still ties in with the Bible dictionary project. (De fideli (talk))

Tolstoy

You're welcome! I'm toying with an idea of (re)reading all of subject's short stories in chronological order; so probably will be (slowly) proofreading (and adding) stories.Captain Nemo (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm more into Tolstoy's fiction rather than his philosophical works. Boyhood et al. would be my fav. Definetely not WaP which, I should confess, I never read in its entirety despite (or, maybe, because of) the fact that it was required reading in my school. Captain Nemo (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The Origins of Totalitarianism

Hello,

on Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2008-12#The_Origins_of_Totalitarianism, you wrote: the renewel is specifically for the 1952 "enlarged" edition. How did you find that information? The Stanford database has a renewal date of 1951. See [1]. Thanks, Yann (talk) 19:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikisource:WikiProject United States Executive Orders

Wikisource:WikiProject United States Executive Orders has been created as a common area to discuss and improve this content on Wikisource. — MrDolomite | Talk 16:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

long-s characters

I saw your comment on Talk:George Washington's First State of the Union Address and I'd like to know what character to use to represent a long-s—I can't seem to find one in the wikisource character list. I want to add an old work that has a bunch of them but am not sure how to proceed. Thanks! --Spangineer^wp (háblame) 02:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I just stumbled on {{ls}}. Sorry to be a bother! --Spangineer^wp (háblame) 02:28, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's interesting. Though {{ls}} doesn't actually print the symbol, since the template is currently set to show "s" in the article space. So the long-s is "there" in the background, but it doesn't actually appear. --Spangineer^wp (háblame) 12:23, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Odd

Thanks for letting me know. Psychless 05:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, if I remember correctly, he started during the "Golden Age of 'Rationalism'". I was surprised that someone wrote about topics like that back then. Psychless 23:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Threats to the peaceful observance of the bicentennial

Unless someone volunteers to redact this, or finds a solid argument for PD, I don't see any choice but to delete it. Threats to the peaceful observance of the bicentennial per "To protect the legal interests of the Wikimedia Foundation, these will be deleted unless there are strong reasons to keep them within at least two weeks. If there is reasonable doubt, they will be deleted.". Jeepday (talk) 01:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Template:Author

Haha, actually I've been thinking about what to do with Template:Author. In my opinion it would be best to eliminate the author index and instead list all authors together in Category:Authors by alphabetical order, with their position controlled by DEFAULTSORT as usual instead of requiring a last_inital parameter. That would be so much simpler and easier to maintain. What do you think? —Remember the dot ^(talk) 07:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

1001 Nights

I agree that there is plenty of room for co-operation in this one. After I proofread the entire first volume I did go on to other things. I looked at the djvu file for that volume but the pages there and the ones that I worked on didn't match up at all. This set came out in a number of different "limited" editions. My version has the Supplemental Nights in seven volumes; the seventh is roughly equivalent to what our head page shows as the sixth. One of the supplementary volumes was originally published in two parts. Given the publication history, it's probably not a good idea to treat these as volumes 11-16.

I heretofore avoided adding headers to the tales because of the multi-level nesting of the tales within tales. I'm still not sure how that might be best handled. By all means share your ideas. Maybe I can start putting a share of my time back into this project. Eclecticology (talk) 04:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm not committed to DJVU files at all. When I'm proofreading I find it easier to do so from a hard copy. I find the scanned pages awkward and slow to work with, and transcluding them doesn't give much room to make future wikification and annotations any easier. It's a way of doing things that tries to be too perfect.

The large files that we have now for each volume, including the supplementals, probably originated from Gutenberg, but whoever put them there didn't show his source, and IIRC Gutenberg isn't too diligent about this either. That said, using those big files as a rough starting point, breaking them up, and supplying the meta-work is a practical approach. That's what I did for volume I, before proofreading from my hard copy. Gutenberg used English plain text, and a version where the footnotes are continuously numbered across a volume. This has necessitated restoring diacritics and non-Roman scripts, and renumbering footnotes to suit the way we break up the text. For anything by Burton the footnotes are often more interesting than the main text, and it makes sense to keep them on the page where they were first found. You're right about how unrealistic it is to proofread 5000 pages; it took me long enough to do one volume. If all our pages can be supported by scans that would be great, but except for material that gives rise to controversy or with a history of POV problems there is no immediacy to that. Most contributors will do their best to honestly represent the material they post. It is enough for now to accurately describe where we got the material so that a verifier can seek out a true copy in a library. Eclecticology (talk) 05:52, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

You have new messages

Hello, Sherurcij. You have new messages at Cirt's talk page.
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Liber Pennae Praenumbra

Hi, I just wanted to point out that this document which you deleted was explicitly placed in the public domain by its author. The notice is in the document itself, though it is in Latin! At the end of the document it says "Donat per omne" meaning "Donated to everyone" or "Given to all". That's part of the original text and culture of the document, which is why it have been freely published since before the internet and has been freely published on the web since the web began. An early open-source document. The author is "Nema", this is the name she publishes under and the document was never copyrighted - it was written when notice would have been required at the time of publication (pre-1985). The notice "Donat per omne" was added instead, intentionally putting the document in the public domain. Yes, the author has since published it as part of some books, but this does not change the document having been placed in the public domain...

P.S. Since I can't see what was deleted, I'm guessing that maybe the poster did not include the colophon, which reads as follow:

• Donat per Omne
• Scriba - Nema
• Sol in Capricornus
• Anno Heru LXX
• Cincinnati, Ohio

The author's official posting of this document can be found here. Her name at the end is a mailto link so that you can easily verify the public domain status with her directly.

new texts

I have restored Cirt's new text to the main page. We need a guideline to cater for the increased participation in this template; some ground rules are needed so that people know in advance if they are permitted to add new items. Hopefully then people will add more because they know the expectations. Do you like the DYK structure on Wikipedia? i.e. proposals on talk, promoted if they meet a basic set of criteria? John Vandenberg ^(chat) 15:17, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Wikisource:Education

You erased the first eight antiquated books on education that I added to the Education page. You didn't say why, however, in the edit summary. Wouldn't you agree that ancient and very old books concerning education ought to be represented when readers seek to learn about this important cultural institution? ResScholar (talk) 07:20, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Botting Ante-Nicene Fathers

As requested, I have started doing the move of author to translator. If you know the author, it is just as easy to add them while I am doing the process. Even if there is a couple, we can look to batch them and apply different as long as there is some sort of semi-sensible means. -- billinghurst (talk) 23:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Addendum. Of those being worked through, one had a separate author field, it was in the first ten that I did. I have paused to give you an opportunity to get back to me. -- ab

Okay, I can work on those. Give it a little trial first. I cannot do the moves with my bot, it just edits, however, that can be the next phase. I will firstly fix, the earlier lot so they don't get lost. -- billinghurst (talk) 00:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

AddAddendum. Do you want me to look to fix the PREV and NEXT, though this will break the pages until we have them moved? -- billinghurst (talk) 00:13, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

You are no fun! Where is your sense of perfection? <larfin> However, your wish is my command.-- billinghurst (talk) 00:19, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

At Ante-Nicene Fathers/Volume VI/Methodius there is a general note that is referenced to twice. From the pages surrounding Prev / Next, I am skipping the first mention and linking through on the second. You may wish to check whether there is a page missing. -- billinghurst (talk) 14:29, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Transwiki:Project_FUBELT

You seem to be the go-to person for anything related to the CIA. Any thoughts on these pages? Are they worth copying over to the mainspace, or have we already got them lying around somewhere? Jude (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks! Jude (talk) 01:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

w:Prayer to Saint Joseph to import from WP

Not sure what has been happening with Prayers, so you might want to either import this text, or tell me what needs to be done with it. -- billinghurst (talk) 04:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

A._Roosevelt's_Trusteeship_Concept

Just cleaning up headerless pages (see User:Bookofjude/headerless--I only just got around to generating a new list) and noticed that you originally contributed this. Though it would be easier to ask you to do the header for it then try and track down information about it. Also, should I add 9/11 Passenger phone calls to Template:911, or are you switching to an index soon? Jude (talk) 08:54, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Love and Labor no header

Hi. Found this Love and Labor with your name in the history, and also see that there is another variation of it that you have elsewhere. Is this redundant? -- billinghurst (talk) 14:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Nope, it's part of a larger Tolstoy work. Threw up a header. Sherurcij ^{Collaboration of the Week: Author:Romain Rolland.} 16:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you recognise Mr pand/Baptism

Not sure what [[Mr pand/Baptism] is meant to be. Published or not. Any ideas? -- billinghurst (talk) 14:38, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Done Sherurcij ^{Collaboration of the Week: Author:Romain Rolland.} 16:37, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

London to Ladysmith via Pretoria

Just undertook some tidying on this work, and found that we are missing two pages for completion Note and maps and wondered if they were still around to complete the work? -- billinghurst (talk) 16:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Added the note, "Maps" is just a listing of the illustrations used in the main work; which I don't believe we have uploaded yet. They're here though. Sherurcij ^{Collaboration of the Week: Author:Romain Rolland.} 16:12, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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Afghan training camp form headerless

Do you have the translator details? Or is this {{anon}}? -- billinghurst (talk) 23:31, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Substitution for the Testimony of KSM headerless

Hi. Substitution for the Testimony of KSM is both headerlss and I was also unable to easily identify the source. -- billinghurst (talk) 07:21, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Moussaoui and Reid Connection headerless

Another work that needs some of your tender loving care. -- billinghurst (talk) 21:13, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Collected Papers on Analytical Psychology

The whole thing might be a little optimistic. The text is pretty labor intensive. In fact, I am trying to rationalize an honorable exit. I think of it this way: each chapter is a unique work in its own right, so adding a chapter is like adding a new work. Or to put it another way, if I can just finish the first chapter I think I can walk away from the project with an untroubled conscience.Ingram (talk) 05:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Interrogation of Wolfram Sievers headerless

Interrogation of Wolfram Sievers needs a header and play with the side table. Thx. -- billinghurst (talk) 12:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Fight at Dame Europa's School

I stumbled across The Fight at Dame Europa's School and saw that you asked Mattwj2002 to add it.... Since I have a bit of interest in pictures drawn by Thomas Nast, I've been starting into it. I have one question, though. I am wondering how clean I should make the pictures. I could clean them up to black-on-white or leave them in a dark-gray-on-sepia/aged paper... (like they are now). I am also asking myself whether I should leave the page borders.

So that I actually get started, I did page 12 without a border grayscale on white... Page:The_Fight_at_Dame_Europa's_School.djvu/12 let me know what you think and I will adjust accordingly-- I feel that this book is your project and I am more than willing to approach it from your preferences. I think I was a bit heavy on the contrast there, so I might need to try again. I looked at the face and realized that some of the marks on the face are gone.

--Mkoyle (talk) 05:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

cia torture memos

Dear Sherurcij,

I saw your page about the CIA torture memos. Several of the memos you link to were actually signed by Steven Bradbury, so i added him in there.

i have been in the process of transcribing some of those memos from PDF to wiki text format. I am working on Bradbury Memo, 2005 May 30, Application of United States Obligations Under Article 16 of the Convention Against Torture. (my naming convention is , basically, -memo author last name, date, subject line of memo-) I also had started a section under Wikisource:Guantanamo#Interrogation_methods. feel free to check it out and let me know what you think.

Decora (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

There have been four recently released, but in total, there are dozens, and they have been trickling out for years. There is a website that has them all listed in chronological order... see http://www.propublica.org/special/missing-memos , many are still secret (and not all of them are from or to the CIA....)

on the CIA / OLC memos regarding torture and etc

Dear Sherurcij

I have finished initial transcribing of the Bradbury Memo, 2005 May 30, Application of United States Obligations Under Article 16 of the Convention Against Torture.

I also created a new 'sub index' called wikisource:Global War on Terror, for several reasons:

• there should probably be one, since Guantanamo, Iraq, the CIA secret prisons, and so many things seem to be falling under the label.
• it did not fit into wikisource:Guantanamo nor wikisource:Invasion of Iraq
• there are also dozens more of these memos to transcribe. I linked to two organizations that are listing the main relevant memos.
• i like the page you made called 'CIA torture memos' but i preferred the ACLU's title of 'Bush-Era OLC memoranda related to interrogation, detention, rendition, and surveillance', because it seems more accurate and limited in scope and time frame. So I put a section with that title under the wikisource:Global War on Terror section.

I have also linked there to your Justice Department Memo on Torture...( but i named it differently and redirected )

I would like to propose a naming convention for these memos,

last-name-of-author Memo of date , subject-line-of-memo

This might prevent collisions between things named similarly.

Please let me know what you think. Thanks. Decora (talk) 19:25, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good Sherurcij ^{Collaboration of the Week: Author:Carl Jung.} 19:48, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

curious

G'day mate,

Curious as to why you just requested OCR on three random pages of a text, a few minutes after I posted the title page?

Hesperian 05:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

I see. Carry on, O sexy one. Hesperian 06:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

constructive criticism

I'm sure many of the disruptive over there feel they are offering their loud views with the best intentions; this doesn't mean they're not being disruptive. Hell, some say it about me; you, too, I see (I had to look again to see what the issue was re yourself last fall). The current stupid drama over there is about disruptive criticism and it just goes on and on. The best comment about it is

• this — Too many DougsTechs currently

Shef’ also links to this, which is worth a read

• w:User:SheffieldSteel/AGFAFAIR

He gets to the root of the issue; too many disruptive editors. en:wp has gotten huge; there are many, many, anybodys. Those who seek to disrupt by simply being vandals are straightforward to deal with. Even dick-less wonders like Grawp are easy enough to deal with and serve to force wiki to mature in order to deal with them. The clever trolls get inside the rules; they know what will get them smacked, and seek ways to sow discord from within.

en:wp is going to have to lower the threshold at which disruptive behaviour is considered to be disruptive; and not a decremental step, a big step. The 24h blocks will become week-long blocks; the week-longs become a month-long. I think the 24 hour block is terrible; typically someone who gets one has been doing something for much of their local-day and then the block hits. What happens? They spend the next afternoon pissed and that evening they come back "off their block" and go right back after whatever article or enemy. If they got 3 days (or a week) they'd lose the negative energy; they might even lose interest.

Doug is likely to get unblocked to hold an RfC/U — although it seems to me that there are already megabytes of comments on this. On his talk page, I've recommended that he go do 10,000 useful edits on other projects before seeking to return to en:wp. This is what I did, and it's a road few will successfully travel. This needs to become the norm and I can serve as precedent that it's doable. My view is that most BANPLE warrant it, and that a long rut-filled road involving lots of real work will serve to prevent the inherently disruptive from ever making the return trip from ban-town. Cheers, Jack Merridew 05:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)