Index talk:Ruffhead - The Statutes at Large, 1763.djvu

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Style guide[edit]

General guidelines[edit]

  • The guidelines at WS:MOS apply
  • Use {{Ruffhead/chapter}} for chapter headings
  • The actual footnotes at the bottom of the source pages are to the original language version, and should not be transcribed. (added Jarnsax (talk) 00:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC))Reply[reply]

Typographic considerations[edit]

  • Use conventional modern letterforms for s,r,l,c,a,t,f etc, as opposed to arachic forms such as long s, or rotunda r.
  • Use straight quotes.
  • Replace stylistic ligatures like , , Latin small ligature Ct.svg with their expanded equivalents fl, fi, ct
  • Diacritic ligatures such as æ and œ should be preserved whenever they appear as such in the scan.

Ammenda, Eratum[edit]

  • Alternate readings, or (indicated in the margins or footnotes) are marked with {{SIC|text in scan|Alternate reading}}
  • Noted printer erratum are also indicated with {{SIC|text in scan|Alternate reading}}
  • Ammenda which insert text indicated as not in the original are marked with ⟨⟩ , the insertion from the margin being placed inside the chevrons. An inline reference note can also be included.

Headings, Sectioning[edit]

  • Use {{rh/5}} for page headings.
  • A convention for how to apply sections has not yet been determined.
    • Note: the actual text used in the section label does not matter, so long as the sections are divided consistently and transclude correctly
  • Side headings (i.e sidetitles) are to be placed at the start of the relevant section, below the chapter heading but before the relevant section typically identified by roman numerals. Side-titles placed subsequently within the same (roman) numbered section are to be co-joined with a ";".
    • The entire sideheading is typically formated using {{ruffhead/heading|section|side-heading}}.
    • Side headings for clear preamble sections at the start of a statute use {{ruffhead/preamble}}. (These typically restate or 'rehearse' certain previous statutes.)
    • In the initial preamble, a paragraph break is inserted (at discretion) after the words of enactment even though it's not part of the original. The "section" for the subsequent part is numbered 1, and uses {{ruffhead/heading|1|side-heading}}.
    • Intermediate numbering , typically (1),(2) in brackets is added 'inline' as indicated in the text, appropriate level {{anchor}} should be added.
    • Use {{anchor|x.y}} style anchors as {{anchor|n}} conflicts with the anchors added by the Pagenumber script on transclusion. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 06:36, 15 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bilingual content[edit]

Regarding content that is presented in two languages side-by-side:

  • Only transcribe the English content here
  • Transcribe the non-English content on the appropriate language Wikisource.

Sidenote handling[edit]

  • Sidenotes are used in the original work for:
    • Annotations such as translation or errata (see Ammenda and Erattum above.)
    • Cross references to related statutes with explanation. (typically in italic text.). These are placed at the end of the chapter or statute, in italic text with a 1em offset from the left margin. Footnotes marking these are placed inline.
    • Side titles - titles or summaries of sections of text - for formatting conventions see "headings and sections" above
    • Back references to earlier statutes, these are placed inline.
    • Forward references to later statutes and references to a statutes by authorities or other works, are placed on the right using {{right sidenote}} (or {{LR sidenote}}) with each entry being a footnote inside the template. A {{smallrefs|columns=2}} tag being placed at the end of the Chapter or Section or statute (as well as the following in the Page footer:

Beleg Tâl (talk) 17:46, 13 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Updated ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 06:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Further updated. What do you mean by "conventional s,r,l,c,t" ? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:51, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Updated ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 06:14, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Modified to 2 columns smallrefs, as most references are very short. Jarnsax (talk) 00:12, 18 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Other sources[edit]

The complete work is 9 volumes (all on see the section of Requested Texts where I've linked all 9 volumes of this particular Edition) , Any chance of being really helpful and grabbing the Djvu for all 9 Volumes :).

(There are other volumes which extend the coverage to 1806 IIRC, but these are a later edition, and appear to have been Google Scans :( )

In terms of Other recordings of Statutes, assorted volumes of Collection for Statutes/Acts passed after 1806 appear to exist on Google Books. It's not the intent here to duplicate the contents of stuff already held on though.

I'm going to be working on these for a while it seems.

You might want to discuss this on the Scriptorium. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've noted 2 missing pages in the Scan at which I've mentioned back to them,

Google Books has a different scan, but with 'different' missing pages :O XD ;) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Sfan00, I wonder where we ought to ask for these pages and these scans: is it somewhere on this place? Regards, --Zyephyrus (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, this is the place: I hadn’t seen you had requested these indexes there. It’s better like this:I work without a bot so creating an entire list requires a very long time if I do it myself: but I will do it for you if no bot is available. --Zyephyrus (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm just noted a slight issue, Some of the dating given in Ruffhead is NOT the dating fro some Statutes given in other sources (inc.) offical UK Government ones.. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Would Wikipedia be the right place to give links to these other sources and to this text too? On a talk page (I don’t know which one: the author’s page or the article?) I’ve transcluded this discussion on the index talk page too. --Zyephyrus (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Identification of references[edit]

In this work a Number of cross references to other works are given in abbreviated form, It would be appreciated if someone could provide expansions for them below:- ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 06:53, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A helpful resource: https://legal-abbreviations.lawjournal.euBeleg Tâl (talk) 15:22, 14 August 2019 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Talk:The Statutes at Large (Ruffhead)/Authorities
Per Blackstone...
  • Edward Coke's "Reports" (he gets cited without name) i.e. 1 Rep. 25, not 1 Coke's Rep 25...2 Rep. Pref. is the preface
    • Also Edward Coke's "Institutes". 4 vols, Co. Litt = 1 Inst, then 2 Inst. 3 Inst. 4 Inst.
    • Co. Litt is a commentary on Litt. en:w:Thomas_de_Littleton#Treatise_on_Tenures (a cite is Blackst. is "Litt. §. 212. 4 Inst. 274."}
  • "Judge Croke" gets special citation too. 1 Cro. = Cro. Eliz., 2 Cro. = Cro. Jac., 3 Cro = Cro. Car. (for Elizabeth, James, and Charles V)
  • Hal. Hist. = Hist. C.L. = Hale Hist. C.L. is "Hale's History of the Common Law", if it comes up.
Jarnsax (talk) 11:17, 17 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, see the (long) footnote at Page:William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England (3rd ed, 1768, vol I).djvu/101 for an explanation of statute law citations. Jarnsax (talk) 23:31, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]


When adding the 'forward references' sidenotes, the long lists of later statutes, please list each reference on one line, inside the template, as I have done at the first page. This is purely for editing sanity, as the linebreaks will be collapsed in the rendered page.... it just makes actually getting the list correct much easier. Jarnsax (talk) 22:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To explain my logic here a bit, not only does having them displayed in the wikitext as a list make it easier to proofread them (at least for me) as ones that don't match the style become more obvious, but it seems likely that this will be edited by 'random people' in the future, specifically to add crosslinks to the references, and it will be easier (and less likely to break stuff) if they are easily identifiable in the markup. Jarnsax (talk) 21:54, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]