User talk:Zyephyrus

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November 2009

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November 2010

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Proofread of the Month
November 2011

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Proofread of the Month
November 2012

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January 2013

Short works (8 completed)
Proofread of the Month
November 2013

Special: Validation month
Collaborative French Translation Needed
The Two Mules
Le Grand Meaulnes
Translation:French Nursery Rhymes
Collaborative Latin Translation Needed
De Methodis
De Regimine Principum, Ad Regem Cypri


Essays (Montaigne) Author:Michel de Montaigne 1575 ESSAYS by Michel de Montaigne translated by Charles Cotton

To get a translation of a later edition (Édition de Bordeaux) more complete would do better. --Zephyrus 07:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Zephyrus,

I've deleted Talk:Zephyrus/edit1 for you :)--Shanel 01:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That ancient Greek Diodorus looks excellent (as does the French--I wish I could speak French!). Do you know if there is a special wikisource for ancient language texts? Robth 03:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of OCR'ing the text, I think it would be more efficient to take the text from Wind in the Willows; or are they very different editions? John Vandenberg (chat) 08:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, we dont have anything like the fr template ADroite. Please create a that template here. We may not use it very often because currently our header is always on the top of the page, ... but ... I am sure this will be useful at times. p.s. we are about to discuss header changes at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Standardization_run; French ideas are always welcome :-) John Vandenberg (chat) 11:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Final push for the Proofread of the Month...[edit]

This month's Proofread of the Month, Index:The Pilgrim Cookbook.djvu, is still a ways away from being fully validated. However, we're within striking distance.

If all ten members proofread just two (but preferably three) pages a day, we'll be able to finish the book before the end of the month.

We can do it. :) EVula // talk // 01:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I have been seeing your work at Special:RecentChanges and after checking your edit history and SUL I think you would make a wonderful candidate for Admin at Wikisource. Would you be willing to accept a nomination? Jeepday (talk) 23:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

proofreading Aristotle[edit]

Hi, could you please check out the last edit you made here [1], the ref no longer looks correct, and I can't figure out why. Thanks, Epousesquecido (talk) 01:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you spam[edit]

Thank you for supporting me for adminship. :) I'll try to make you glad you did it. So here's a belated Nadezhda "Harry S. Truman" Durova campaign song. All the best, Durova (talk) 05:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm Just Wild About Harry (help | file info or download)

Index:Montesquieu - The spirit of laws.djvu did you want this added by bot?[edit]

Zyephyrus did you want me upload the OCR for Index:Montesquieu - The spirit of laws.djvu or is this a copy and paste project? Please leave me a message on my talk page with the answer. Thanks. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 22:22, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proofreading Our American Holidays[edit]

Thanks for the feedback! I'm figuring this out as I go, so please let me know if there are other ways to do this that would work better. Acarmack (talk) 22:52, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Lectures and Addresses[edit]

Hi, Zyephyrus. Thanks for validating some of pages in Historical Lectures and Addresses. :D After so much work, it's nice to see one of those lectures reach valid status.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Small Caps[edit]

Good Morning, Not sure if you know about {{smallcaps}}, see my edit on Page:Marie de France Lays Mason.djvu/25. Jeepday (talk) 11:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question—could you explain why you created this category on commons? Most djvu texts are placed in commons:Category:Scanned English texts. Do you think it makes sense to break these out separately? --Spangineerwp (háblame) 15:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, great. Unless you object, I'll propose that the category be deleted. And yes, it is quite confusing that there are different file structures for these texts. Originally the German wikisource created a file structure on Commons that was specifically identified as "Wikisource files," and at the time I was an administrator on Commons, so I got involved in trying to convince them that it made more sense to just call their books "Scanned German texts," since they could be used anywhere, not just Wikisource. It never really changed, so now there are different category structures and it's all rather confusing. --Spangineerwp (háblame) 15:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, those three make sense. Personally I'm not convinced that the Wikisource template is necessary (there's no "Wikipedia" template on images used on Wikipedia, for example), but it's not hurting anything and if people find it useful, so be it. --Spangineerwp (háblame) 04:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Huck Finn[edit]


The original title of the work is Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, without "The". The version of the book I have is this one: Twain, Mark. Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (1884). Ed. Bernard De Voto. The Portable Mark Twain. New York: Penguin Books, 1977: 193-539.

The following extract is taken from Rasmussen, R. Kent. Mark Twain A to Z. The Essential Reference to His Life and Writings. New York: Facts on File, 1995: "It should be noted that the full title appearing on the title page and cover of the first edition of this book is Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (Tom Sawyer's Comrade). E.W. Kemble's illustration for the half-title page that opens the first chapter reads The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn; however, "The" is not properly part of the book's title, though it has been used more often than not in reprint editions."

Do the wiki guidelines say that the title used in the article should be the same as the title appearing on the written version used as a source? Anyway, I don't really care what title appears, but since you asked if I had a published version, here it is.


[from 15:34, 28 April 2009]

Thank you, I transmit these informations to the Huckleberry Finn Discussion page. --Zyephyrus (talk) 23:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re-adding the links[edit]

Why have you re-added the links? As I pointed out, they cause problems when one wishes to convert the stories to a pdf and print them out for offline reading. There seems to be a problem there, though perhaps it lies with the pdf conversion tool? Surely links to versions of the stories in different languages can go else where. There is also the problem that as they were, they didn't even show up on the page! They should be deleted as far as I can see as there is no good reason to keep them, they cause problems and provide nothing useful as they were not available to click to find the versions in different languages.

Zyephyrus, I think your the only admin on the English Wikisource that knows Greek. I wanted to let you know about A Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament. Could you also please leave a message on the Greek Wikisource about this as well? I would let them know, but frankly it is Greek to me. Please leave a note on my talk page. Thanks. --Mattwj2002 (talk) 06:35, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Nicely picked up [2] I sensed there was an error, but the two spellings threw me off. Cheers, Cygnis insignis (talk) 22:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

not sure which of the bits that he translated, so can I leave for you to add that component. -- billinghurst (talk) 06:15, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Popular Science Monthly update[edit]

Hi Zyephyrus. Please see the new documentation on the namspace and page naming convention for the The Popular Science Monthly Project. — Ineuw (talk) 02:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC) ps. nice to meet you.[reply]

Category organization

Category:The Popular Science Monthly Project

Detailed documentation of the PSM proofreading

Proofreading guide


Hi Zyephyrus. I noticed your question about annotations, and frankly, I haven't annotated anything yet, but I created THIS PAGE, where there are references and they appear in smaller text, by the use of the {{smallrefs}} template. I hope this helps.— Ineuw (talk) 10:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


We already have some version of the fables, you should consider subpaging the versions you are creating for a lot of reasons, but the best is it makes it easier for everyone to add or view the version they want. Cygnis insignis (talk) 11:50, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could clarify what was going on in the document. Hey ! I noticed you put a transclusion up here, beating my version here by a few years - this makes helping you an extra pleasure :-) Cygnis insignis (talk) 18:37, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Little request[edit]

Notice modeled after [3]

As Template:New texts is monitored in IRC, and many users have it in their Watchlists, I was wondering whether you would consider adding the name of the text being added to the edit summary, rather than solely +1,-1. Even if it is just have +Name of work, -1 that would be most helpful. Thanks. -- Cirt (talk) 04:29, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Little help[edit]

Hi User:Zyephyrus, I'm a newbie here and would like to ask you for a little favor. Can you check if this User:Krenakarore/monobook.js is right ? Just wanna add a few buttons and learn how to do the job. Any Tutor here on WS that might come to assist me ? Don't know much about computers and programs, so help would be welcome. Thanks Krenakarore (talk) 07:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First Folio[edit]

Ok. Validated the page you showed me. Just tell me whenever you want me to look over one and validate it. - Tannertsf (talk) 22:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

old text "s"[edit]

How do you put the old character "s" into these pages, like on the First Folio book? - Tannertsf (talk) 22:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

{{long s}} = {{ls}} — billinghurst sDrewth 13:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Do you know what is happened to Wikilivres? Is it going to functioning again? I wrote to Yann, but he did not respond. I don't know why... Dmitrismirnov (talk) 09:54, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource Translations[edit]

Hey Zyephyrus,

I apologize if it surprised you, but I can explain what led me to replacing the text. I came across an edit by an IP who it seems had been systematically making small changes that appeared to be vandalism. Well, some certainly seemed to vandalism, but that was what I found difficult. The page had been changed fairly often and in the same manner, but in not knowing latin, I felt somewhat helpless in protecting it against vandalism. I found a translation and thought it would put an end to it, and I could maintain it. I have no problem having both and can disambiguate and move the work I added if you like; I thought using the scan would be easier for everyone. - Theornamentalist (talk) 11:49, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Newly added text in Greek[edit]

Hi, I know this is in modern Greek, but would you mind taking a look at Μια διαλεξη? My Greek is pretty awful, but I suspect that this is a self-authored work and wanted to check before bothering to transwiki to the Greek WS. Is it worth keeping? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:17, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks , but this is only Volume 1 (up to then end of the Reign on Henry VI.)

The complete work is 9 volumes (all on see the section of Requested Texts where I've linked all 9 volumes of this particular Edition) , Any chance of being really helpful and grabbing the Djvu for all 9 Volumes :).

(There are other volumes which extend the coverage to 1806 IIRC, but these are a later edition, and appear to have been Google Scans :( )

In terms of Other recordings of Statutes, assorted volumes of Collection for Statutes/Acts passed after 1806 appear to exist on Google Books. It's not the intent here to duplicate the contents of stuff already held on though.

I'm going to be working on these for a while it seems.

You might want to discuss this on the Scriptorium. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've noted 2 missing pages in the Scan at which I've mentioned back to them,

Google Books has a different scan, but with 'different' missing pages :O XD ;) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sfan00, I wonder where we ought to ask for these pages and these scans: is it somewhere on this place? Regards, --Zyephyrus (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, this is the place: I hadn’t seen you had requested these indexes there. It’s better like this:I work without a bot so creating an entire list requires a very long time if I do it myself: but I will do it for you if no bot is available. --Zyephyrus (talk) 17:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm just noted a slight issue, Some of the dating given in Ruffhead is NOT the dating fro some Statutes given in other sources (inc.) offical UK Government ones.. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Would Wikipedia be the right place to give links to these other sources and to this text too? On a talk page (I don’t know which one: the author’s page or the article?) I’ve transcluded this discussion on the index talk page too. --Zyephyrus (talk) 17:07, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's certainly worth mentioning over on Wikipedia :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:36, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User:Zyephyrus, what do you think about User:JustinCB/cl-act-p for formatting the Ruffhead statutes? JustinCB (talk) 02:31, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


I am impressed by your approach of making the contents pages for An Argosy of Fables scroll like that!

One annoying niggle (might be just my browser/Firefox 16.0.2 on Linux): the left margin of all the contents pages are clipped. Rather suspiciously, by about the exact width of the scrollbar...?

Any thoughts/does this happen to you, too? MODCHK (talk) 08:11, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again.
Since writing the above I have had a little bit of a play with the <div style>, and have found that increasing the left-padding from 5 to 20px makes the scroller function correctly in my browser. Would you please be so good as to check if this had had any adverse affect when you access the Index:?
Cheers, MODCHK (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two versions of Poetics[edit]

Zyephyrus, what did you do? Sherucij's page "Poetics" was never by Bywater but you renamed it Bywater! It was by Butcher, and then what did you do? You started a new page called Poetics (Butcher)!

I want you to recopy your Poetics (Butcher) transclusion commands to the misnamed Poetics (Bywater) so the edit history is restored. Then I want you to delete Poetics (Butcher), which only has your work, and then rename Poetics (Bywater) to its correct name Poetics (Butcher). Then you can restart Poetics (Bywater) with the Bywater scans if you want to, or just leave it deleted and do it later. ResScholar (talk) 06:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sherurcij’s Bywater’s translation still named Bywater’s translation: where is the problem? --Zyephyrus (talk) 11:32, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Zyephyrus, for the mixup. It turns out it was by Bywater after all. What happened was that on December 1, 2008 an anonymous user added Chapters 17-26, chapters which were by Butcher, to the Bywater work, and then in January 2009 you split it into three parts. Two of the parts contained the wrong translations, and I assumed it was Butcher's translation all the way through. So now all we have to do is delete the chapters that don't belong. Fortunately this page was never marked as proofread on the Aristotle author page. I will do the deletions, so you don't have to worry about it. ResScholar (talk) 21:40, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I’ve added some text from Gutenberg Project, is this one correct? --Zyephyrus (talk) 18:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't have to try to help out, but actually, no it's not. Search the text for the phrase "i.e." and you'll see the text is corrupt. ResScholar (talk) 07:07, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
But it matches the errors in Sherucij's contribution in the earlier chapters, so at least we can be fairly certain it's the same edition, which is important to know. ResScholar (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Excuse-moi de répondre si tardivement. J'ai trouvé la solution. Il faut insérer la balise : <div id="charinsert" style="font-size:1.1em;">α β γ δ ε ζ η θ</div> , ce qui donne :

α β γ δ ε ζ η θ ι κ λ μ ν χ ο π ρ σ τ υ φ χ ψ ω.

--Bertrand GRONDIN (talk) 13:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource:WikiProject CrankyLibrarian[edit]

Please see edit and respond there. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 14:39, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merci pour l'accueil[edit]

Dear Zyephyrus,

Thanks a lot for your welcome. Cordially. --Christian COGNEAUX (talk) 19:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour. Pourriez-vous m'aider s'il vous plaît fr:wikisource:Questions techniques#Comment réunir des fichiers images en un seul document ?  ? D'avance merci. Christian COGNEAUX (talk) 19:27, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
JackPotte has answered your question there (in French). You can find an answer in English here. If you have problems, you can request texts here or ask questions here where you have a button ask for help. Can any of these links help you? Regards, --Zyephyrus (talk) 12:59, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page affected by recent change to {{colors}}[edit]

Hello Zyephyrus.

Just bringing your attention to the fact that a recent change to the above template has had an adverse effect upon your rather elegant user page.

Please note that {{colors}} no longer adds a new line after the end of each highlighted region, so your page will require the addition of such to return to its former state.

I was intending to bring this to your attention prior to the template change being made, but a comedy of errors ensued; and while sorting that out, a third party coincidentally made the change anyway. Net result: apologies for this (late) notice!

Regards, MODCHK (talk) 21:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, MODCHK, I think the result is rather a happy one: the page is nicer now than it was, so many thanks  :) --Zyephyrus (talk) 16:34, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikisource User Group[edit]

Wikisource, the free digital library is moving towards better implementation of book management, proofreading and uploading. All language communities are very important in Wikisource. We would like to propose a Wikisource User Group, which would be a loose, volunteer organization to facilitate outreach and foster technical development, join if you feel like helping out. This would also give a better way to share and improve the tools used in the local Wikisources. You are invited to join the mailing list 'wikisource-l' (English), the IRC channel #wikisource, the facebook page or the Wikisource twitter. As a part of the Google Summer of Code 2013, there are four projects related to Wikisource. To get the best results out of these projects, we would like your comments about them. The projects are listed at Wikisource across projects. You can find the midpoint report for developmental work done during the IEG on Wikisource here.

Global message delivery, 23:23, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Greek footnote[edit]

Hi, I saw that you're an admin with a knowledge of Ancient Greek, and wondered if you might be able to help me. I transcribed a Greek footnote on a page I was working on as:

Ἀπὸ τοῦ ὁρᾷν ἔρχεται τὸ ἐρᾷν.

but noticed that Gutenberg transliterated it instead as:

'Apo tou dran erchetai to eran.

I've checked a few other editions, and the third word looks to me like it starts with a rough-breathed omicron ("horan", not "dran"?), but I've got a very limited knowledge of the language, and don't understand it to know for sure which is correct, whether the printer got it right, what it means, or where it's taken from (and Google hasn't been any help for the latter two). Would you mind checking it over when you've got time (and ideally I'd love to find out what the source was, but don't really know where to begin)? --xensyriaT 20:40, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello xensyria, I think you are right and the previous transliteration was wrong, I can't find any meaning in dran. Regards, --Zyephyrus (talk) 21:19, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks! --xensyriaT 21:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changing the Index: name[edit]

Hello Zyephyrus,

Thanks for the welcome. I have a question. I uploaded a djvu file from Internet Archive to Wikimedia Commons, but did not alter the name of the file. I did not appreciate that when one creates an Index page on Wikisource, the file name automatically becomes the name of the work. Currently I have "Index:Talesofjohnolive00hobb.djvu" when I should have "Index: Tales of John Oliver Hobbes.djvu". Do I need to request deletion and start over again, or is there a way I can change the file name at Wikisource?Jason Boyd (talk) 23:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will get it moved, though to note that it all stems from getting the name right at Commons, so I will move that too. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:35, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Antarctic Flora[edit]

Please note the simpler version of the running header used here, which may save you some editing trouble. Note also that the running header text is not smaller that the body text. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:23, 1 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic headers - how to[edit]

Hi, I'm just responding to the "how to" here. The decision of whether to do it for a particular work is a different matter. The quick and easy way of doing it is to use the "header" field in the Index page. Have a look at Index:Tom Swift Among the Diamond Makers.djvu where I used it. The main problem with this method is it doesn't account for left and right pages and I've pretty much stopped using it.

I now use a script I stole borrowed from Hesperian. It's somewhere in my common.js. This enables me to set up alternate headers and is invoked by a keyboard shortcut. However, it's disadvantage is that it only works for the individual user and so shared works would require everyone to have the script set up and the same header wording in their .js as well. If you want to use this one yourself, it would be best to reacquire it from Hesperian's version as I think he's updated it since I acquired it. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:00, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New Proposal Notification - Replacement of common main-space header template[edit]

Announcing the listing of a new formal proposal recently added to the Scriptorium community-discussion page, Proposals section, titled:

Switch header template foundation from table-based to division-based

The proposal entails the replacement of the current Header template familiar to most with a structurally redesigned new Header template. Replacement is a needed first step in series of steps needed to properly address the long time deficiencies behind several issues as well as enhance our mobile device presence.

There should be no significant operational or visual differences between the existing and proposed Header templates under normal usage (i.e. Desktop view). The change is entirely structural -- moving away from the existing HTML all Table make-up to an all Div[ision] based one.

Please examine the testcases where the current template is compared to the proposed replacement. Don't forget to also check Mobile Mode from the testcases page -- which is where the differences between current header template & proposed header template will be hard to miss.

For those who are concerned over the possible impact replacement might have on specific works, you can test the replacement on your own by entering edit mode, substituting the header tag {{header with {{header/sandbox and then previewing the work with the change in place. Saving the page with the change in place should not be needed but if you opt to save the page instead of just previewing it, please remember to revert the change soon after your done inspecting the results.

Your questions or comments are welcomed. At the same time I personally urge participants to support this proposed change. -- George Orwell III (talk) 02:04, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You'd left something on the talk page... The whole work could be done from the scans now. It needs a validation pass and the image plates though.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much ShakespeareFan00, text deleted. --Zyephyrus (talk) 17:16, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Updating scripts[edit]

Hi Zyephyrus. I'm updating user scripts for recent MediaWiki changes, and I noticed you have monobook.js, vector.js, and common.js. Which of these do you still use — vector.js and common.js? Do you mind if I merge vector.js into common.js? —Pathoschild 02:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Pathoschild: I'd be delighted if you can simplify my complicated system  :-)
What I use most is Hesperian's script clean up; and I'd prefer edittools before editbox.

Lots of thanks! --Zyephyrus (talk) 23:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sure. I marked monobook.css, monobook.js, and vector.js for deletion (so everything is in common.css and common.js), and cleaned out most of your vector.js except for the page cleanup tools. I'm not sure what you mean by "edittools before editbox"; if you can explain, I'll restore whichever script is needed for that. If you notice anything missing that you wanted to keep, let me know and I'll put it back. :) —Pathoschild 01:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Pathoschild: more lots of thanks! :-) I don't know if it is possible to use something like commons:MediaWiki:Edittools.js in order to be able to chose where we'd prefer to see our edittools. @Tpt: succeeded this well in 2011 on and it still works. --Zyephyrus (talk) 11:48, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean the tools shown in this screenshot? Sadly the script won't work on enwikisource, because it moves the existing edit tools (shown below the editor) into the edit toolbar. On enwikisource, the edit tools have been removed entirely (see MediaWiki:Edittools compared to fr:MediaWiki:Edittools). —Pathoschild 15:27, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thank you Pathoschild, something like this screenshot. I thought I could obtain what I would need with the CharInsert Gadget activated, but I don't know either how to show it up before the EditBox and not down below the EditBox. --Zyephyrus (talk) 20:23, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done! I didn't know about the gadget; I updated and enabled the script so it works with the gadget. —Pathoschild 01:43, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
One thousand thanks! --Zyephyrus (talk) 18:38, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again. I updated your proofreading scripts to the latest version from Wikisource:TemplateScript. This adds a new Special:TemplateScript page to configure your scripts, and enables compatibility with upcoming features. Let me know if anything breaks. :) —Pathoschild 03:19, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Pathoschild: it works à la perfection. --Zyephyrus (talk) 07:33, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Index:Poems & poèmes.djvu — set of French language poetry[edit]

Hi. There has been the transcription of some French language poetry for 30+ pages in the linked work. Not sure whether it is something that you wish to import from enWS to frWS? Anyway, I will let frWS work out whether they wish to have these works. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:48, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Curly quotes[edit]

Is there a reason you're swapping curly quotes in for straight quotes (") like you did in this edit? --Mukkakukaku (talk) 22:19, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mukkakukaku: please see the style guidebillinghurst sDrewth 22:54, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So... billinghurst's point (I think) is that the style guide says this:
  • Use typewriter quotation marks (straight, not curly).
So regardless of preference, or what you were trying to do, it's our standard to use straight quotes (") rather than curly ones (“”). Best, Mukkakukaku (talk) 23:02, 8 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
We have normal expectation that the style guide is utilised; that exceptions would be limited, and would need a reasoning to why one is stepping outside the guidance [our broader principle for stepping outside the style guide]. There are samples of works with curly quotes. The issue with the fancier formatting is that many cannot do them as not on the standard keyboard, and we have long wanted to make transcription easier, and consistent. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:27, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Also, for future reference, can you use a better edit summary? "o" isn't really indicative of what you're doing. Thanks, Mukkakukaku (talk)

23:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

The reason was that somebody had built a special button for that and I appreciated it had become so easy to fix these quotes :-)
But I hadn't thought it might repel new contributors to see things complicated like that.
My real worry was to find how to respect a nearness (created by the author himself), a nearness between his different levels of texts and his annotations, his annotations, not somebody's commentaries or explanations.
I am looking for some way to obtain this same nearness because I think it is an important part of the text.
But I haven't found any solution yet, so I've used the quotes fixing button while I was thinking of how I could solve the annotations nearness problem.
I will summarize "fix" instead of "o" as long as I go on fixing the quotes. Or I can revert all these quotes fixing. Which one is better? --Zyephyrus (talk) 23:47, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know about a special button. But I really don't see a need for curly quotes rather than straight quotes if the author is consistent throughout. For example, if the author had used a mix of both kinds of quotes, I could see transcribing them as printed. Maybe @Billinghurst: has some insights?
Also, "fix" is little better as an edit summary since it doesn't indicate what you're fixing. Maybe something like "fixing typos" or something would be more descriptive. Mukkakukaku (talk) 07:39, 10 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

incomplete transclusion[edit]

Just a note that Index:Burnett - Two Little Pilgrims' Progress A Story of the City Beautiful.djvu is proofread though not marked that way, nor fully transcluded. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:19, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also, just wondering why File:Burnett - Two Little Pilgrims' Progress A Story of the City Beautiful.djvu image page .095.png is here rather than at Commons. Should we mark it {{Move to Commons}}? — billinghurst sDrewth 13:21, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, of course it's place is on Commons! Thanks for your help! and I will transclude what remains as soon as I can. --Zyephyrus (talk) 22:12, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Would you review my frwikisource request?[edit]

Please see fr:Wikisource:Bots#Fluxbot, I'm not sure if your flow-board is sending the right notifications over there and it looks like you are the only bureaucrat on frwikisource. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 02:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shakespeare's Works[edit]

Hello. Just wondering what your status is with regard to Index:Shakespeare - First Folio Faithfully Reproduced, Methuen, 1910.djvu. Will you still be editing in the future? Londonjackbooks (talk) 17:41, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I intend to when I can; not now. Please, Londonjackbooks, don't hesitate to work on it where you wish! And thanks a lot! --Zyephyrus (talk) 20:10, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! You'll let me know if there is any particular work you prefer to do yourself... :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Are you set on your poem tag formatting, or may I start from the beginning and implement {{block center}} formatting? I can convert as I validate? Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:13, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is better that you implement the same {{block center}} formatting in all the folio if this solution may be chosen. --Zyephyrus (talk) 15:33, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you a fan of Chaucer by any chance?[edit]

I'm just curious where the username came from, is it the beginning of Chaucer's Canturbury Tales("Whan þat Aurill wiþ his ſhowres ſoote/Þe drauȝt of March haþ peerced to þe roote/And Zeferys eek wiþ his sweete breeth/Which vertu engeendred haþ þe flour/And inspijrid haþ in eury holt and heeth...")? JustinCB (talk) 02:54, 29 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I like Chaucer, but I don't remember how I chose to be named Zephyrus, 15 years ago or more. The image I had then in my mind may have received some influence from Latin Literature. --Zyephyrus (talk) 20:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense, though I believe, that Zephyrus is Greek, rather than Latin.

On an unrelated note, have you seen my query about the re-written cl-act-paragraph template and Ruffhead's Statutes at Large, how it might be able to display the sidenotes more to the printing in the original scans? I believe, that you stopped work on them for that the templates currently available couldn't display it to the original printing, so this might be useful to you and others that do transcription of legislation. JustinCB (talk) 15:30, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder- request[edit]

Hello, please take a look here. Thanks on advance --Alaa :)..! 16:01, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Greek characters[edit]

Hi! can you please take a look at this page? I have no knowledge of Greek. Thanks. Hrishikes (talk) 11:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have you used our Edittools for the Greek?
--Zyephyrus (talk) 19:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I used edittools after taking it from Google Drive ocr. Hrishikes (talk) 01:23, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Is it like the Greek alphabet (with all its diacritics) in the Insert list that we can unfold under our editing window? :::--Zyephyrus (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambler and Greek characters[edit]

As a (personal) fan of the writings of Johnson, I thank you for your work on The Rambler. I have been working to modify the pages so as to be able to transclude the individual numbers of his work, as may be evidenced; as such, would you mind to continue upon the same method of editing (as shown here). In addition, you seem to have a far greater knowledge of the Greek then myself, so I would like to request your help on the transcription of Greek characters in certain 17th- and 18th-century works? It seems that the type-font for Greek characters is quite different from that used to-day, and, as I do not really speak the language, I can only attempt to transcribe the characters. I have personally encountered a great deal of difficulty here. As I have encountered this problem numerous times, any help would be appreciated. Yours Truly, TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC).[reply]

IP vandals...[edit]

Noticing that they are still continuing on their user talk page, Can you consider revoking talk page access, and extending the blocks on the other IP's used? Or even doing a range block as suggested at WS:AN? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:02, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

And they hop again , this time to - Special:Contributions/ (sigh) :( , I am wondering if it's vandal script.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:12, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Now Special:Contributions/ - I think a range block is needed, with a suitably worded block notice ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:19, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A different ISP, but the same pattern. Special:Contributions/ ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:27, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I noticed you were bilingual and hoped you could spend a bit of time helping to trim down the 38 entries at Category:Pages with missing Greek characters, thanks! Lemuritus (talk) 05:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Translations on mulWS?[edit]

Hey Zyephyrus. You're an admin over on mulWS, right?

I have a user who has made an original translation of Joyce's Dubliners into Gaeilge (Irish Gaelic), and in trying to upload it to mulWS somehow ended up uploading it here (in multiple copies: File:Muintir Duibhlinne2.pdf, File:Muintir Duibhlinne3.pdf, File:Muintir Bhaile Átha Cliath.pdf) in PDF format (where it is out of scope). enWS has a finished text of the original English version backed by a scan on Commons.

Had this been a translation into English I would have helped them set up an Index: and transclusion to the Translation: namespace here on enWS, but I am completely failing to find any documentation on how mulWS handles translations (or much of anything else for that matter). Any chance you could help me out here?

The user is interested in making this translation available in wiki format (not just uploading the PDF to Commons), and seems motivated to make more such translations in the future. --Xover (talk) 16:27, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Is there a template better than {{sic}} to use when I am unable to "translate" a word in a work like The Book of the Knight of the Tower? It's not really so much {{illegible}} as a possible OCR error, or possibly just a w:Hapax legomenon. An "Unclear" or something? Peace.salam.shalom (talk) 14:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"facepalm", looks like {{reconstruct}} is what I need, sorry to bother. So much stuff {{facepalm}}. Peace.salam.shalom (talk) 14:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conversation in WS:S[edit]

Please don't just revert, join the conversation and be specific in WS:S#Removed the "proposals" hatnote from Wikisource:Annotations. I flagged this a couple of months ago in the same forum Neverending drafts are a killer, we fix them or delete them. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How we will see unregistered users[edit]


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18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)