User talk:Mukkakukaku

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As noted at Help:Index pages, we generally use a "-" to identify blank pages that do not fall within the standard numbering system. Pages which lack page numbers and are not blank need some other identification. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:41, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Don't see why. It just messes up the main namespace since the page "number" floats on top of the regular text and makes it hard to read. I could label things "Random Page With Text" but that helps exactly nobody if it's an unnumbered page at the beginning of the work that isn't a readily categorized thing (eg author's note, whatever.)
I've also been doing it this way -- as other editors have -- for years. Why is it only a problem now? --Mukkakukaku (talk) 18:51, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Because (a) we undertook a community discussion and came to this decision (among others), and (b) linking to a particular page in the Main namespace is only possible when each page has a unique identifier. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:33, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
Wait, what? That's not true. The unique identifier is the scan page number (eg. page #5 on the djvu file); the link display has nothing to do with that in main NS. So even if there's pages that show [-] instead of, eg, [5] for the page number on the main NS, the [-] still links back to the correct page in the scan.
Unless you mean something else. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 15:50, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Index:Browne - The Plain Sailing Cook Book.djvu[edit]

I'd been using plainlist for the ingredients/utensils? Is this OK? Would suggest adding a note to the Index talk if acceptable. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:02, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Looks good. I updated the Index talk page and will go through the previously done pages to make sure we're all consistent. Thanks, --Mukkakukaku (talk) 21:36, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Next mop and bucket set[edit]

I keep hoping that others would offer (as it keeps seeming to be me that pushes), anyway … In my opinion it is time that you were looking to take the step to the advanced mop and bucket. I invite you to read Wikisource:Adminship and see if you reckon you can handle the role. I most definitely think that you are ready (well, in fact past ready). If you are willing to take that step, please let me know and I will happily submit a nomination on your behalf. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:17, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Can we revisit this in a week or so? I've got some travel lined up so I'll be around on a (potentially) limited basis until next Monday. Otherwise I'll probably be up for it, if WS:Adminship is all there is to it. I've no pressing commitments on my time like I've had in past years, so I should be able to provide consistent support. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 21:10, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
This is not something urgent, and it is not meant to be a sentence, nor a burdening commitment. It is simply to give you access to tools to do more when you can and are able. To me you are a trusted and participatory member of the community. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:24, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: No, it's cool. It's just that my only real experience with the RFA process has been on en-wiki where it's 70% drama and politics; I actually opted out of all future RFAs because I couldn't deal with the politicking. enWS is small enough that we don't really have that sort of stuff going on, so I'm not really sure why I was worried about it. I'll be happy to do it. :) --Mukkakukaku (talk) 20:48, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
It is life and death over every appointment over there. Anyway, nomination is up Wikisource:Administrators#Mukkakukaku. It is convention to confirm your willingness to accept the nomination and that you have familiarised yourself with our policies at Adminship. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:58, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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Mrs Beeton[edit]

Index:Mrs Beeton's Book of Household Management.djvu

Can I tempt you to do some transcription here? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Transcription ... or validation? Because wow! --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:25, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Both if possible. And thanks for the page you did.. I suggest looking at the various anchor/nb templates for formating the recipe headings. ( The templates which should be subst, add some anchors. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:14, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I also did an image page as well.
Could you show me how you did the image? i.e is it simple? I’ve worked out how to open the image, download, open in some image editor on my computer and upload. How to make the background white? I’ll help plow through the proofreading/transcription … Cheers, Zoeannl (talk) 09:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
I've been looking at the {{anchor+}} template that I saw you used on page 546. I didn't even know it existed previously, to be honest. Have you any thoughts as to standardization of templates for use in this work? It may be worth documenting on the talk page what templates should be used, and how. It's a bit late for people doing transcription, but at least validators will be able to standardize the look of the transcluded work if there's a guideline to follow. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 03:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Appointed admin[edit]

Hi Mukkakukaku,

I've closed your admin nomination as successful, and granted you the bit. Enjoy the extra responsibility, I'm sure you'll use it well.

Can you please list your language skills and any additional rightsat Wikisource:Administrators#Current_administrators? Thanks,

Hesperian 03:10, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations on your appointment as an administrator Mukkakukaku! You’ve earned the honor. —Maury (talk) 03:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Maury! --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:50, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Congrats. You should see some extra tabs/dropdowns on a page, and you should see some extra listings at Special:SpecialPages. To get an understanding of your added rights poke at Special:ListGroupRights. My advice is always "take it slowly" — while anything can be undone, undoing some things is painful. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll endeavor not to break anything too badly right off the bat! --Mukkakukaku (talk) 02:50, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

File:WHR Rivers - Studies in Neurology - Vol 2.djvu and vol. 1[edit]

I am confused. This volume says it is by Henry Head, with contributions by Rivers, and others, yet you have attributed to Rivers, et al. Can we please have the attributions updated. I would think that we should be putting {{book}} templates onto these works, and then looking to move them to Commons. It is less than ideal your detail on these files. Having these files set up allows for their appropriate move to Commons when due, and for others not to try and work what the heck is happening. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:49, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: There is a reason that I did it this way, though it escapes me now. These books are a collection of reprints of scientific papers written by Henry Head in conjunction with various other scientists (Rivers, et al). I guess it would've been more accurate to attribute it to H. Head, et al.
Oh I found it. This was a request on Requested Texts. John Vandenberg asked for the volumes, saying "collaborative work, inc. W. H. R. Rivers - the other authors need to be investigated before copyright can be established, but in the very least it is {{PD-1923}} and can be uploaded to Wikisource." I misunderstood that Rivers wasn't the primary author, so that's on me. But I took John at his word about the copyright issue. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 15:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I started working with French texts and then Spanish ones and now I am trying one in English. I have tried to look through the help pages on wikisource and all I can say is that they are confusing and help little. My help has come mostly from other users and from copying from already posted articles, etc. I am still to learn how to create an author's page, having spent valuable time looking through the help pages in the three languages! Another problem is that each different language has its set of edit rules and names that need to be learned. Thank you for your comments - as for the file you mentioned I noticed the OCR is not good and will try to upload a djvu file instead. GinnevraDubois (talk) 16:43, 29 April 2017 (UTC)


Hello! If you have the time, could you please download this book (entirely) from Hathi Trust as a PDF? Thanks in advance. --Yerevantsi (talk) 23:58, 13 May 2017 (UTC)

How to Transclude TOC from subpages[edit]

Hi, and idea re my last reply on this thread about how to transclude TOC from subpages? Scriptorium#No_TOC_in_Mobile_View If no, should I move it to a new Scriptorium topic? Thank you. Nissimnanach (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2018 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Hi @Nissimnanach: --
Unfortunately I'm not overly familiar with these particular templates. You may have more luck if you post a new topic in WS:Scriptorium/Help indicating what you're trying to accomplish and what you've attempted so far. We have some contributors who are very familiar with the underlying wiki engines and templates who will probably be able to guide you in the appropriate direction.
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance... Mukkakukaku (talk) 05:03, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Asking advice[edit]

I would like to add the link the the wiki-source document below with name "the joint statement", but it is too long title.

Would it be possible to redirect "the joint statement between USA and DPRK" to the wikisource article below?

Joint statement Goodtiming8871 (talk) 05:55, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

@Goodtiming8871: -- Yes it would be possible, but there's little point since nothing links to The Joint Statement between USA and DPRK. Redirects are done the same as on Wikipedia; see Help:Redirects. However unlike Wikipedia, we do not link "alternate search terms". Alternate titles are a grey area unless they're unique to a single works.
You may want to consider creating a Portal for the Summit to act as a topical outline. Mukkakukaku (talk) 13:34, 19 August 2018 (UTC)



I can see from your profile page that your education and experience is not in the field of literature or poetry. You have errors on your page (like a space before the sign "..."). Nonetheless, you have reverted my changes to a page about a poem erroneously assigned to Shakespeare. You have reverted even a TYPO in the title. Shall is written with "l", and not with "i" (Shail). You have removed my explanations and justifications, together with a valid, reliable reference. I feel disappointed that as a Wiki moderator you act in this careless manner.

Unlike yourself, I do have a university degree in languages, including courses in literature, plus a post-grad in creative writing. I am a poetry enthusiast and a poet myself. Nonetheless, as a plane engineer or IT specialist or whatever, you consider yourself to be more entitled to decide about matters that university researchers in the field of literature have already debated and decided upon. The poem "Shall I die or shall i fly" is not to be found in any official anthology of Shakespeare's oeuvre.

Search for it here, you will not find it:

Also, please DO READ the reference article I added to the Wiki page. Disclaimer: this will require more time than the 5 seconds it obviously took you to destroy my edit of the wiki page.


B.Z. Pietak

I will respond on your talk page. Mukkakukaku (talk) 01:22, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Images of Natural History, Fishes[edit]

As you created the images for the other Natural History work, Natural History, Reptiles, would you mind doing that work for the next Natural History work? I could validate the pages after-wards. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:54, 4 October 2018 (UTC).


Sorry to have whatever to your Aviation reports. I was asked to process the images for those. I am wondering what was wrong with them. So, what was wrong with them?--RaboKarbakian (talk) 17:51, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

@RaboKarbakian: - The letters "A", "B", etc are not page numbers. They're the appendices. The pages themselves are unnumbered. When they get transcluded, they will be transcluded as /Appendix A, /Appendix B, etc. When these appendices include multiple pages, the CAB tended to use lower case roman numerals for page numbers (eg. i, ii, iii, etc.) However when they only consisted of a single page, those single pages were unnumbered.
I don't know what you mean by "asked to process the images"; the only thing I reverted were the changes in the page numbering which were incorrect. --Mukkakukaku (talk) 07:27, 8 December 2018 (UTC)