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Support request with team editing experiment project[edit]

Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here:, I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.

Tech News: 2015-51[edit]

17:42, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


A trivial matter... Just noticed you moved "Greatness" to "Greatness (Coates)", and was wondering if you were going to create a disambiguation page as a result (as with "The Difference") or just leave it as a redirect. Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

I was going to disambiguate the page, then it was wonly hen I got to the author page of Hawthorne that I saw that it was a "Works about ..." not like all the others that I had fixed. <face palm> I was going to move it back, then thought that it was probably not doing any harm as a redirect, and it enables disambig or versions page if they happen, otherwise it sits there as is. If that is a problem, I can revert and return. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 :) It is no problem... I only thought that perhaps you forgot to create a disambig page along the way. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:00, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-03[edit]

17:55, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

AWB fixes[edit]

Hey, I noticed you were using AWB to update ; I just wanted to inform you that this particular edit broke the link, in case there are others that you may want to investigate. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:39, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Did you mean...[edit]

"Conscience" for "Conscious" [8] and [9]? Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Clearly unconscious! Yes check.svg Done Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:16, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
smiley Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:21, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-04[edit]

16:38, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Reverting a move[edit]

Sorry to bug you. I have permission from Neo-Jay to revert a move (change in titling) they made (see here). I am not sure how to revert (undo) activity from a certain point in the page's history. Can you instruct me please? Neo-Jay thinks I won't make a mess of things, but I don't have the same faith in myself ;) Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:13, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

NVM, sorry... I will leave it as is. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:01, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
LBJ. Revert is just another name for an easy move for admins. You wouldn't be able to do it as it would have required you to delete the target page—an admin function. Such moves would generally be requested at WS:AN or via tame admins. OR we can get you admin rights from the community, and something in which you would excel. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:10, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the confidence. What sort of tools do you think I would find particularly useful? I could probably handle monotonous tasks well enough to give it a shot. I just don't know in what areas my help would be most beneficial. Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:25, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
1) Move without setting a redirect,. 2) Delete, 3) Rollback, are three that immediately spring to mind. (Wikisource:Adminship for details. Full rights set shown at Special:ListGroupRights.) You are one of the rare breed that we need as am admin though are resistant to the task, which is okay. You have years of experience here and nobody questions what you do, in fact we all listen. You will excel as you ask first, act second in areas where you have doubt. You aren't interested in the role as a status symbol, for you it will simply be another tool ... brilliant! I would be delighted to be able to nominate you, if you give me the nod. A win for perseverance over reticence. smileybillinghurst sDrewth 03:37, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Billinghurst. It is late here, so I will sleep on it. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:39, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
@Londonjackbooks: FYI, moving To the Tsar (Coates) back to To the Tsar (1890) does not need administrator's help since To the Tsar (1890) does not have edit history. You may just go to page To the Tsar (Coates), hit the "move" button, type "To the Tsar (1890)" as the new title, and then move it, just like a normal move. It's fine if you decide not to move it. But you can still move it if you like. Thank you for your contributions. --Neo-Jay (talk) 06:29, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation. I can see the reasoning behind the move (titling-wise) in this case; as it is a versions page, it can afford to be a bit more ambiguous for our purposes. Other cases where there has been a complete title change between versions, I use the most recent version title/heading as the landing page with previous titles redirecting to the most recent version (see "Earth Has Her Blossoms"). Reticence aside, I'll give you the nod regarding nomination. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 10:55, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

your advice please...[edit]

You wrote: "current contributions have not generally been to our expected standard or style, and I believe their edits should be patrolled..." I am going to tell myself that my relative inactivity let me fall out of synch with current standards. I am, of course, prepared to do my best to measure up to standards, no matter what my level of activity.

Do you see value in naming your top concern(s) with my contributions? Geo Swan (talk) 20:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Geo Swan. There is already some commentary on your talk page, and there will be clean up to your previous edits that will be the best guidance. It has been a while however, I remember things like wikilinks as well, you were doing local links that were presumably targeted at enWP, and probably heavier linking than we would do, the guidance is to go light and avoid annotative approach. And yes, it was falling behind the times, we had progressed and developed. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:45, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
OK. Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 09:25, 30 January 2016 (UTC)


This is the Hailstorm that broke the back so to speak.

The file at Commons is Undated, and I am not sure if it's written in an official capacity or a personal one.

So it was blanked, but I'd like a third opinion, and have objections to it's reinstatement if you think it is in fact acceptable.

Perhaps it's time I took a break? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:28, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

And thanks for closing my over-reactions :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 01:35, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Reviewing Non-US editions[edit]

I'm sorry, I over-reacted. Now, would a better approach be if I use my Userspace to identify some works which might need to be localised from Commons? I'm accepting your argumennt about PD-1923. Or would you prefer I left? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 01:52, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

If you want to better understand policy, then ask questions to the community about policy, maybe cite examples to compare, but starting conversations like you do just mixes cats and pigeons, and a proportion of our brethren at Commons often find it easier to delete than to research or question or challenge (laziness/business/caring less). — billinghurst sDrewth 02:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Speaking of which, I made a list on my talk page of some files I think may need a review by someone competent such as yourself. I've also closed some of the remaining CD as Snowball (to use the Wikpedia expression). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 02:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-05[edit]

21:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Transfering files from Commons[edit]

Hi, I am from bn.wikisource. There is a chance that some of the uploaded Bengali books can be deleted from Commons due to non-US PD compatibility. I noticed, that you uploaded here such English books which were about to get deleted in Commons. I am curious, if there is any tool or are you doing it manually. Thanks. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 09:55, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

@Bodhisattwa: There is script that can be used by a person who is an admin at both the target and sending wiki, though that probably isn't going to help you. Whilst there used to be a tool to allow the transfer from Commons to a wiki, I cannot find one now, nor a bot that does the task. *If* your community granted me or any other Commons admin rights (on a temporary basis) then they could do the xwiki moves when deleting the file at Commons. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:07, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I will let you know about the community decision and act accordingly. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 10:31, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I had a talk with other community members and everyone agreed to support you for a temporary admin right in Bengali Wikisource. Can you please apply here? As it is a small wiki, you need to apply in meta also. Thanks for your kind help. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 10:43, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I have nominated you in Bengali Wikisource for your temporary adminship. Please visit this page. Thanks. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 16:29, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Donebillinghurst sDrewth 21:26, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
We have created the necessary templates and categories, as per your suggestion. We are also making a list of files in this page which have possibility of undergoing deletion from Commons. Regards, -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:05, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-06[edit]

18:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)