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Confirm decisions[edit]

Hello Zhaladshar. I've closed the confirmation discussions for Danny (discussion, confirmed) and Illy (discussion, removed). Do you disagree with the decisions? —{admin} Pathoschild 21:56:57, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Yep. :)—Zhaladshar (Talk) 13:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
You did not answer the question correctly! —Benn Newman (AMDG) 13:57, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Whoops. Next time I'll read the question.  :P No, I do not disagree with either decision.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. :) —{admin} Pathoschild 14:42:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you...[edit]

... for your standardization of author pages. It is appreciated. Yours, Smee 00:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC).

Thanks :D —Zhaladshar (Talk) 18:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Welcome message[edit]

Thanks for welcoming me :). My work on wikisource is mainly on the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica. I saw you were one of the first people to join the project. Is it just me or does the project seem a little inactive? Is there anyway to generate more interest in the project or is the fault lack of interest in wikisource? Regards, Psychless 19:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I try to put the template: {{Wikisource1911Enc}} on the entry's corresponding wikipedia article as often as I can. Hopefully that will help generate interest. I suppose I'll just have to try and get Volume 1 done by myself :). Psychless 20:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Veto messages[edit]

I noticed you were quite busy today cleaning up the veto messages. It is much appreciated that you went through those for me. One question I have is that if it isn't stylistically correct to explicitly have the backlink to the veto message page, should there be some kind of backlink in the header, or is there no navigation back up at all? Right now, a reader could navigate chronologically in a linked list fashion, but while it gives a nice chronological feel, I'm not sure if that should be the only navigation means (besides the browser back button, which isn't exactly good web form). Do you have any suggestions? Thanks! –Pakman044 02:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Re. Rupert Brooke[edit]

Thanks for making contact. Nice that someone noticed I've been doing stuff. On Wikipedia there's so much that nobody takes any heed.

The 5 poems you mentioned:

  1. I. Peace
  2. II. Safety
  3. III. The Dead
  4. IV. The Dead
  5. V. The Soldier

are numbered like that in every Brooke collection I've come across. It's like that on Project Gutenberg and in my copy of "The Collected Poems of Rupert Brooke: With a Memoir" (1922) Sidgwick and Jackson, Ltd., London (Tenth impression). There appears to be some dispute as to whether the sixth sonnet "The Treasure" (unnumbered) should precede or follow the other five. As a bonus, the numerals help with disambiguation as two of the sonnets are titled the same...

Also, Brooke tended to order his poems reverse chronologically, but on Author:Rupert Brooke I've tried to put his collected works in roughly chronological order by volume, with the original ordering preserved for the poems in each volume. I don't know whether this is more or less confusing, but I'm open to ideas on it.

Thanks also for pointing me in the right direction with the poem template. These things are always good to know. Ebenezer.Elijah 19:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Request for username change[edit]

Hi Zhaladshar, I haven't edited here in a bit, but I was just thinking of coming back and doing some more work now that the UN documents copyright issue has been settled. However, it seems I'm still here under my old username - would it be possible to get a rename to User:Rebecca as I now am on Wikipedia? Ambi 10:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing! Your account has now been renamed to Rebecca, as per your request.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 11:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)



1. Posted it with Dr. Valerie Maxwell's approval (actually she directed me to post this) 2. She would like this information to be available to the public through this website. 3. This is not a dissertation

I am new to wiki systems - and it took me a while to find this page. I can provide Dr. maxwell's e-mail and you can contact her if needed to prove her will to have this posted. Please advise as of what to do from here (and how to do it - I am really new to this technology).



Unfortunately, more than approval is needed to post a work onto Wikisource. Dr. Maxwell would have to release the document into the public domain or license it under the GFDL (or a compatible license). Without this happening, the work would have to be deleted for copyright reasons.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 03:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Can you rename me?[edit]

Can you rename me from Skunkmaster to Skunkmaster IV?

Thanks, Skunkmaster 15:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Done! Sorry for the delay.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 03:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Sorry for the delayed thanks! :)

Skunkmaster IV 01:36, 2 September 2007 (UTC)


Greetings, I noticed that you have edited the Author:Maxim Gorky page - and that's all the justification I needed to (spam your talk page, and...) inform you that he has been chosen as the current Wikisource:Collaboration of the Week. Please consider a few minutes today to help improve our collection of works by this fine author! Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week:'this week: Ernest Hemingway 05:33, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

What I Believe[edit]

Your move to What I Believe (Tolstoy) broke all the internal links like What I Believe/5 and such, since they used non-static linking. Not sure if you may've inadvertantly done this before, but you might want to doublecheck. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Maxim Gorky 18:23, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed now.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 18:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


Not sure about the chapter titles changes to Zadig, isn't it better to say "Next Chapter: The Blind Eye" instead of "Next Chapter: Chapter 2", and then never giving the chapter title? Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Wilhelm II 19:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so. Almost all of our works which have title names aren't listed in the header; at most, they are listed on the main book page and as the first line of the chapter itself (right after the header). The reason I, at least, do it this way is for the times when the chapter titles are long. Instead of having four or five lines for the header, I just abbreviate it to "Chapter #" and list the chapter name on the actual chapter page. The correct information will still be given for Zadig, but for aesthetic's sake, the information is found only on the relevant pages (i.e., the main page and the individual chapter page) and not on every page that links to a given chapter. Also, this way makes it more standard with the books that don't have chapter names.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 20:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopedia articles[edit]

Hi, the sub-articles I consolidated are part of the same article in the original. I believe that the person who originally placed them in Wikisource incorrectly split them up. I am working from scanned images of the original work. --Jmb 18:26, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Please explain why you deleted Author:Luo Guanzhong[edit]

You apparently were a little trigger happy when you deleted Author:Luo Guanzhong. I was in the process of adding information to the page, when you deleted it because you said it redirects to another page. You must have reflexively deleted the page before you saw all of my additions. I have recreated the pages the way they should appear in order to be consistent with other Chinese authors. See: Romance of the Three Kingdoms -- A-cai 22:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I wasn't trigger happy. I simply used speedy delete criteria. I don't see why, since we already had Author:Luó Guànzhōng created, there was a need to create a page that was for the exact same person, but minus the diacritics in the name. Is there any reason they were removed? I understand that Romanization of Chinese names isn't entirely set in stone, so I'm wondering if maybe Chinese names now drop such diacritics? Why wouldn't Author:Luo Guanzhong work simply being a redirect to the author page that already did exist?—Zhaladshar (Talk) 00:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure If a policy has ever been written for this. However, the general practice is to leave off the diacritics in article titles. That applies to both to Wikipedia and Wikisource. For example, the article is Luo Guanzhong on Wikipedia, and Luó Guànzhōng redirects to Luo Guanzhong. Similarly, on Wikisource, we have Author:Li Bai, Author:Bai Juyi, Author:Wang Xizhi etc (all without diacritics). -- A-cai 01:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Curtis's magazine[edit]

Hello Zhaladshar. Thanks for checking my formatting. I will do some cleaning up where I can, it helps me to find my way around. I'm starting off The Botanical Magazine, some volumes are already at another place and I have been using two online scans as a check. Can you give me some advice before I go too much further? I'm still drafting some models, but have a look one day. My first problem is; how many sub pages to use? One per page would be good, but there is a few of them :0 I coud break it up, like the magazines, 3 or 4 articles per page. Thanks again, I like the work here. Regards, ☻ Fred 15:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

You did, despite my lack of a simple question. It was published as issues, but each article is numbered, they were intended to form volumes. This reaches 11 000 articles before long, each with a plate. I will keep you posted. Cheers, ☻ Fred
There are a number links I have used, these are currently tabbed in my browser.
  • US gov site that lists images by the common name. The original text is linked from each, along with some vague details.
  • Glasgow Uni. Lib a bit of history about it. Some images.
  • This is the address in my other browser. Somewhere around there is a link that may open a viewer for you. The image is photographic, the entire open book can be flipped through. It took me a bit of effort, not sure I could again.
  • Botanicus may have a copy, I will let you know. I won't recommend the French site, it is tricky or expensive. I have used it to double check copy, but the images are very low quality. There are a few more, I let you know which is best. There are some drafts in my sandbox. I will look at the links you gave to get some ideas. Thanks again. ☻ Fred 16:43, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Big Djvu Files[edit]


I did go all the way up the food-chain until I reached someone who acted as an intermediary between myself and someone with Unix wheel access to the Wikimedia servers. The response I received was a polite, "...we don't feel comfortable with files quite that large on our severs at this time". I do have access to TIFF's of the work, one images per page (not multipage TIFF). I was in the process of converting the tiffs to PNG when I ended up needing to replace my hard drive. I've been rather busy with real life stuff (web design and deadlines) so I haven't taken another crack at it in the past few weeks. It takes several hours for my old Ubuntu box to convert all the images, during which time my system is even less of a speed demon than usual--unless I want to set the Unix "nice' level so low that it will take forever. Bottom line, I hope to reconvert the TIFF's to PNG perhaps within the next week, and upload them. I apologize for the delay, but I will get those images up soon.

While I'm posting this, I do have some questions for you:

(1) I have read the documentation on the proofreading extension for Wikisource, and I must confess I'm still uncharacteristically clueless as to how (step by step) to set up a project that uses it. I'm also even less clear on how to remove the page images once they're no longer required. If you could perhaps update the documentation with some step-by-step information (plus examples at various stages) that would be good!

(2) Lastly, I have uploaded some documents which needed to undergo Labeled Section Transclusion, which was done. Two early Christian works: the Epistle of Barnabas, and the Didache. Do works which have been transcluded, such as these, need to be in a category which indicates as much? Is there anything else I should do to these texts?

Thanks! —Wikijeff 04:52, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

username change request[edit]

Hi, could you please change my username to 'Jayvdb' in order to match the capitalisation I used when I created my accounts on other foundation projects. Cheers, John Vandenberg 06:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

more work[edit]

  • deletion and review request

Please delete the following page. User:Fred.e/Pimelea linifolia. I was using as sandbox and wanted the history, so I moved it to an appropriate title. If you have some time one day, can you (or someone) give a quick comment on my work. I have enjoyed it, the little I have done, but I am still finding my way around. Cheers, ☻ Fred 11:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought that indentation was deprecated, I am too fussy with layout. I think that the arrangement and formatting of pages is something that was refined over centuries. My antiquated view is that a lot of this craft was thrown away in digital documents, with good reason sometimes. I'm not sentimental about it, the limitations of printing gave rise to a lot of what we see. Indents were probably to save space on a page, but they also are to separate text within text. An example is Fothy's poetry within the text, eg The Song of the Snore, where it is a hanging indent. It does not look right to my eye, I will adjust in time. Thanks for the help. ☻ Fred 16:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Regex menu framework updated[edit]

Hello Zhaladshar. I've updated your copy of the regex menu framework from 1.0-dev to 1.2. The main changes between these versions:

  • a new default tool called "Custom regex" (see documentation), which lets you perform any number of arbitrary search & replace patterns;
  • automatic updates;
  • fixed bug with checkbox checking;
  • cleaned up CSS.

You'll probably need to refresh your browser cache before you see the changes (CTRL+R in Firefox). If you have any comments or suggestions, find glitchy or odd behaviour, or don't want to be told when the script is updated, please leave a message on my talk page. —{admin} Pathoschild 22:47:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


Greetings, I noticed that you have edited the Author:Napoleon Bonaparte page - and that's all the justification I needed to (spam your talk page, and...) inform you that he has been chosen as the current Wikisource:Collaboration of the Week. Please consider a few minutes today to help improve our collection of works by this fine author! Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Napoleon Bonaparte 22:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm at work, but if you have a chance, I'd apprecaiate if you could take a look at A Voyage Towards the South pole and Around the World/Volume II/Chapter VII and see if you can fit the information halfway down into a pretty HTML table - they are my bane :( Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Captain Cook 20:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC) Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Captain Cook 23:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Looks fantastic. I've eMailed the owner of some original editions, to get high-res scans of the covers from him, for the main page - hopefully can put a "Volume I" link under the left image of V.1 and "Volume II" link under the right image of V.2. Feel like trying your hand at the A_Voyage_Towards_the_South_pole_and_Around_the_World/Volume_II/spec table? I've just got to put the header templates on Book 3 and 4 tonight, then hopefully figure out where each illustration goes. Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Captain Cook 20:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
It's a comparison of six native "dialects", giving its english counter-part, so seven columns wide.
English | Otaheite | Easter Island. | The Marquesas Isles | The Island of Amsterdam | New Zealand | Malicolo | Tanna | New Caledonia
Sherurcij Collaboration of the Week: Author:Captain Cook 22:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

a mop is required[edit]

Hi, an IP user has copied and pasted The Sacrificial Altar to The Sacrificial Altar, and proposed the original for deletion. As I dislike page histories being removed, I have removed the {{sdelete}}. Could you delete the dup and move the original article to the new name please.

Also in a similar vein, I am concerned that this entry in the log is also destroying the history of an article:

07:09 (Deletion log) (diff; hist) . . GrafZahl (Talk | contribs) (deleted "The American vandal Abroad": WS:CSD G4: Redundant with The American Vandal Abroad)

John Vandenberg 08:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)