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Would expect source code on wiki source

Please add a link to Wikisource:Source_code from the main page. It is definitely missing, and I looked for it for quite some time now before I found that page again... -- 16:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

There is some controversy about whether we should include source code. "Wikisource" refers to source texts in the literary sense, not source code. I don't think it's appropriate to add it to the main page until we've definitely established whether we even want it. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 23:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
I second adding source code to the main page. Wikisource:What is Wikisource? clearly states that source code is accepted, what is the debate about? -w:User:Ravedave
The current disscusion involves changing that page. The full debate has been going on at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Inclusion of reference data on Wikisource.--BirgitteSB 21:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Create a New Source Box

I think a 'create a new source' box on the main page would be very helpful for new users since currently it takes some searching to figure out how this is done. In my mind, the 'low cost of entry' in adding a new text is one of the main advantages that Wikisource has over Gutenberg and others. At least a link from the main page to the 'create a new source' page would be good. If there is a concern that this will lead to an increase of nonsense texts, I think something like the Wikipedia Recent Changes Patrol would be more in keeping with the wiki philosophy when compared with making it more difficult for new users to add texts. Antonrojo 13:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Amen to that! I am a brand-spanking-new newbie to the whole Wiki-phenomenon, my only previous experience of Wikis being with simple-to-use apps like VoodooPad or WikiNotes (I think I've got the names right). I'm genuinely impressed at the capabilities of the format, but the prospect of engaging with it in any kind of meaningful way is daunting; I mean, I know lots about literary texts but nothing about coding! I took a look at the Help sections on editing and adding texts, and some of topics are over my head, so any help in the way of easy-to-use templates and idiot-friendly instructions would be a boon. By the way, how do I add a comment on to a pre-existing string? Andrea Jory 24 March 2006
I'm looking into creating some documentation for the {{author}} tag as a start. Not sure what you mean by 'add a comment...' Antonrojo 12:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I believe one of our users is (or at least was) currently re-writing the Main Page. You might want to leave a comment on his talk page to maybe incorporate it into the new design. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zhaladshar (talk • contribs) 21:11, 25 March 2006.
There is already some documentation on the {{author}} template; see Template talk:author. It could perhaps be expanded so it's more helpful to newer users. Concerning the new article box, I don't think it's a good idea to add it to the main page. We could perhaps link directly to Help:Adding new texts, so that users see the guidelines and help pages before adding a new text. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 23:53, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Ah, yeah, that's a good point.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 00:21, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


Please add MORE clarification on the main page about the TYPEs of material that can be published in wikisourse:

  • non-electronic work etc...

H0riz0n 23:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

On the right sidebar, under "How Wikisource works", there is a link to our inclusion guidelines entitled "What do we include?". // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 23:57, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

apparently wikipedia is about free content knowleGDe..

..but not spelling. yeh, typo. in the "sister projects" section at the bottom it misspells knowledge, which just really doesnt look good.-- 02:15, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed the mistake; thanks for pointing that out. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 02:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Simplify "How Wikisource Works" section

I'd like to simplify the "How Wikisource works" section by linking to existing index pages. I propose that Wikisource:Translations, Annotations, and Music be merged into the styleguide as auxiliary pages.

Current layout Proposed layout
How Wikisource Works

Help | What is Wikisource? | What do we include? | Adding texts | Text integrity | Style guide | Translations | Annotations | Music | Copyright | Deletions | Protection requests

How Wikisource Works

// [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 19:40, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem Apwoolrich 19:46, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I'm late to find this discussion. I think changing the layout to a more condensed version is more aesthetic and keeps clutter down.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 18:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
This is condensed even further in the proposed redesign, so this section is a little outdated now. :) // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 20:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Fiction Should Have a new section for children's fiction

We should really create a new section specifically for children's fiction in the fiction section as it is a canon all onto itself. It should be seperated so people who are searching specifically for children's fiction can find works easallyThe preceding unsigned comment was added by DarrylB (talk • contribs) .

Please, be my guest and start it! Just remember that we can only use "older" children's fiction due to copyright constraints.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 02:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Again with the "Recent Texts"

Thought I'd throw a nod to Ahmadinejad's letter to Bush, although only excerpts have been released by the White House at this point. It's "up to the minute" new stuff, which I'd like to see earn WS a bit more prominence over time, as a place to come read this sort of stuff. Sherurcij 15:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll add it now. AllanHainey 15:39, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Much thanks, but I see there's a more complete version at Ahmadinejad's 2006 letter to Bush if you want to update it, and I've put my incomplete one up for deletion :) Sherurcij 14:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that the logo has been changed to a more stylized version (who had this happen--I wasn't aware we were changing it, but I'm very glad we did). For some reason, though, it is the old Uwe Kils logo on Main Page, but the stylized (Zanimum's?) logo on every other page. Is this normal, or a bug?—Zhaladshar (Talk) 17:27, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

If you still see the "old logo", you may still have a cahced version of the main page in your browser cache. / 18:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. On my other computer, the logo on the Main Page is the changed one, not the old one. It's probably just a caching issue.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 18:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I'm always supportive of fresh graphics, but believe (new) users might not recognize the iceberg in the new, stylized logotype. Can you add two or three more levels of shadow to the image, to add depth? -- Dogears 20:49, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
This logo, I believe, was created by Zanimum. You can talk to him to see if he wants to do it--I believe he's active on Meta and possibly WP. I don't think anyone here has the graphical skills necessary for that kind of job.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 20:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

New text The Pilgrim's Progress

Admins may want to put this new text in the "New Text" box on the main page.--Drboisclair 08:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

monobook.js hack to remove h1 header

This page would look much nicer if we used the MediaWiki:Monobook.js hack to remove the H1 header (i.e. "Main Page") - shunting "Wikisource" up to be the H1. See Wikipedia. --w:User:Alfakim -- 15:08, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

This design will not last much longer. We've got a replacement we're going to soon implement, so we should hold off on making any changes to Monobook until after we have our new design.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 16:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
It would be nice if you could link to this new version. Do you mean User:Pathoschild/Projects/Main page? User:Pathoschild/Projects/Main page/Synthesis? - dcljr 21:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
The latter, pending progress at Featured text candidates. // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 04:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

New Text of Anne Bradstreet

I have added several poems by Anne Bradstreet, the first female American poet and the first to have her works published. I believe one of her two more famous works, "To My Dear and Loving Husband" or "Verses Upon the Burning of Our House," should be added to the new text list.

A link: Mcjsfreak07 23:24, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

That is great! You can add it at Template:New texts. It is open to everyone to edit. No need to make requests here. --BirgitteSB 23:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

By language?


There is a need for a link to a category "works by language", i.e. Category:Works by country and Category:Works by language. Yann 11:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Adding interwiki to the Czech language version of Wikisource

Hello, could you please add interwiki to the Czech language version of Wikisource to the main page, using the following tag?


I've done this. :-) Jude (talk) 08:12, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Thus you can delete this section as you see fit.
That's odd; why didn't we have a Czech interwiki link? The sub-domain's been around for a little while, too...—Zhaladshar (Talk) 12:55, 23 June 2006 (UTC)