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Note: This talk page is for discussion of the Main Page only. General discussion or questions about Wikisource belong at the Scriptorium.

Older comments are moved to the archives. The main page code is modularised for ease of editing. Some of the formatting is in the site stylesheet, and the major sections are templated: featured text, new texts, main categories, Collaboration, and sister projects.

Lua error on Main page


We have a Lua module error on the Main page under Current Collaborations. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

@EncycloPetey: It looks like the bot that's supposed to update Module:Monthly Challenge daily stats/data/2021-08 hasn't run yet. I've put in a check that prevents the big red Lua error from appearing until we get the underlying issue addressed. Xover (talk) 06:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ok Retsepile (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

new proverbs


How can new proverbs, recently published by ordinary people, be added to this database? I have a file of 300 beautiful proverbs, and they are translated into seven languages, and I have been given permission to publish them, please. ששון (talk) 22:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@ששון: Thank you for the question. This query has been moved to Wikisource:Scriptorium#New_proverbs. Please see the reply there and respond at that page. Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 23:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply
Checkmark This section is considered resolved, for the purposes of archiving. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 23:06, 1 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

"US Law"


Could we make a link for "US Law" under "Highlights" that links to Portal:Law of the United States? Lizardcreator (talk) 20:51, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Liking to Wikisource from Wikipedia main


Does anyone know hot to link to a Wikisource document from Wikipedia main without using a url address? In particular I'm trying to link to Continental Association. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Gwillhickers: Try s:Continental Association. Incidentally, you're generally better off asking questions at the Scriptorium, our version of the Village Pump, since very few people watchlist the Main Page here. Xover (talk) 19:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Xover: - Thanks, that works fine. Yes, the Village Pump is where's I'll go next time I need help. Once again, many thanks. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Text in the Collaboration box


I took a new editor through the process of proofreading a page the other day, and I stumbled upon a problem: He couldn't figure out where to start. Obviously, it's not an insurmountable problem when you have an existing contributor to set you on the right path, but it is a problem for the casual person dropping by.

I'd like to suggest that we change Template:Collaboration to include an invitation. Right now, it only says "The project is X" with a status report, and I think it would be better to add something that says something like "You can help with this project today by reading the directions and proofreading part of the current text".

The Challenge and POTM pages would also benefit from updating some of their impersonal language (e.g., "Each month, the Wikisource community selects a few texts to proofread and validate" – Newcomers do not feel like they are part of "the Wikisource community", so this sounds like "Each month, somebody who is not you selects a few texts to proofread and validate"). WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:41, 14 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

@WhatamIdoing Thank you for your suggestions and insight into how the phrasing can discourage new users. I've changed the template text on the Main Page for the Monthly Challenge and revised the intro text in the Monthly Challenge header. What do you think of them now? Languageseeker (talk) 00:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, @Languageseeker, I think that's a good improvement. WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:00, 15 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Current Collaborations


In the section Proofread of the Month - Recent Collaborations, the O. Henry collection is listed twice. I have no idea where that text is coming from, so cannot see if I can spot the error. -- Beardo (talk) 14:16, 16 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

I have removed the duplicate listing from the data. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:30, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks -- Beardo (talk) 13:32, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply


I can't edit.How can I edit? Yfdhxfbz (talk) 13:38, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Yfdhxfbz - what are you trying to edit ? -- Beardo (talk) 16:27, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am trying to edit a article about everyday victims.Please help me with this mess Yfdhxfbz (talk) 16:30, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Yfdhxfbz - you're generally better off asking questions at the Scriptorium. This page is for comments about the Main Page itself. -- Beardo (talk) 16:43, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you Yfdhxfbz (talk) 16:45, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Where do I find it Yfdhxfbz (talk) 16:46, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Click on the word - it links to the page. -- Beardo (talk) 16:47, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
May God bless you at all times Yfdhxfbz (talk) 16:51, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
My name is Rose .. 🌹🌷 Yfdhxfbz (talk) 16:56, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Or - -- Beardo (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Can we chat sometime Yfdhxfbz (talk) 16:52, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

 Comment our {{welcome}} message contains the pertinent information. I have place a copy on your user talk page. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:36, 19 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thank you 😍❤️😗 Yfdhxfbz (talk) 15:57, 21 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

585,395 texts in English


How is this number generated? I assume it means unique works ie. a single-page speech is one work, a 20-page (chapter) novel is one work. -- GreenC (talk) 02:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Answering my own question, this number is Template:ALL_TEXTS (bot generated number) which is pages in mainspace 0 minus certain other pages described at User_talk:Phe#en:Template:ALL_TEXTS.
IMO what is most interesting is the number of unique works. eg. a single-page speech is one work. A novel with 20 chapters and pages is one work. Does this number exist? Is it even feasible? I think if the 585,395 was used, but it excluded sub-pages, would get close. @Phe: -- GreenC (talk) 04:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
@GreenC: I'm more concerned with keeping phetools alive past the impending Grid Engine shutdown than refining its statistics output just now, but…
The stat is currently generated by, essentially, SELECT COUNT(page_id) AS num FROM page WHERE page_namespace=0 AND page_is_redirect=0;. I could start ad hoc adding conditions to that along the lines of page.title NOT LIKE "/", but then I should probably filter out disambiguation pages too first. And changing this number in any way drastically would need at least a warning to frWS, bnWS, itWS, napWS, paWS, plWS, and vecWS who all use it.
But perhaps more fundamentally: why is that number "better" overall? If you filter out subpages you do get rid of a lot of "/Chapter 1" and "/Chapter 2". But you also put all 30+ volumes of the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica into 1 text. The same for the 48 volumes of the Waverley novels, each "chapter" of which is a full novel by Walter Scott. Then there are the numerous individual poems (which are distinct works) that exist as top-level pages in mainspace. We do want to raise the standard and place things within the context in which they were originally published (i.e. our source for a poem is usually going to be a published collection in which the poem is a sub-part), but we're a long way away from that and other wikisourcen do not necessarily share that ambition.
Measuring stuff is hard, is what I'm saying. :) Xover (talk) 10:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh, also, Phe hasn't been active since ca. 2016, so phetools (and phe-bot) have been usurped and are currently limping along under new management (cf. Grid Engine shutdown apocalypse and T319965). Xover (talk) 10:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)Reply