User talk:Mathmitch7

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Again, welcome! --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:00, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Uploads[edit]

Please note that uploads of texts in the public domain should be done at Commons, and not locally. Hosting the files at Commons makes them more widely available. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:00, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Also, please note that DjVu version of files are much easier to work with. PDFs exhibit a number of problems with display of the individual pages. So whenever a DjVu version of the text is available, that version is preferred. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:03, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Unfortunately, I got the file from The Internet Archive, which did not have a DjVu version of it. I'll keep this in mind for the next text. Mathmitch7 (talk) 03:19, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
The Internet Archive does have a DjVu file. You have to click the "See all files" to see it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:03, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Found it, thanks. I uploaded it and moved my start from the other transcription project over. I've proposed deletion of the PDF and its related files.

Library stamps[edit]

Wikisource does not proofread or preserve stamps, barcodes, or other items added to a publication by a library. This information can be mentioned in the file information on Commons or in the notes section of a header, if relevant, but Wikisource generally proofreads works as they were published, without regard to additions by persons who own the copy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

OK. I just saw in Help:Templates#General formatting that {{greyed}} was an option for "(important) text that has been written or typed onto the original document", and wasn't quite sure what counted as "important." Thank you very much for your help as I get going in Wikisource :) Mathmitch7 (talk) 22:01, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I've transcluded the Chronology and Chapter 1, to show you what a final work looks like on Wikisource.

I have adjusted the formatting of the Chronology to Wikisource standards, but have left Chapter 1 as you edited the text. You will see why we do not use Wiki-sections on Wikisource. Instead we use templates to format the text, or else markup, but not wiki-headers. This is a significant difference from Wikipedia. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:11, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good. Again, thank you for your help! Mathmitch7 (talk) 22:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Contents[edit]

Current preferred style is usually to put the Contents on the opening page of the work, so that the Main page of the work also serves for navigation. This isn't done for all works, but it does solve the problem of users finding the table of contents quickly. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:39, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Gotcha. Since there are front sections not covered in the book's TOC, how is that usually handled? By editing the transcluded page directly to have the "additional" sections appear like a part of the TOC? Or to put it directly in the section before the transclusion occurs?Mathmitch7 (talk) 01:55, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
When the front matter is all short, I typically put all of it on the front page, though I might put Ads into a collapsible box. There is a way to mark page breaks when their location isn't visually obvious. See Lost Face for an example where I've put all the front matter on the main page and used a collapsible Ads box.
When some of the Front matter is also listed in the Contents, I'll use a hashtag in the wikilink to link to the page. In other words"...#19" at the end of a wikilink would take the reader to page 19 on that screen. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
Hm, I'll think more about it. The collapsable way seems pretty reasonable. Mathmitch7 (talk) 02:08, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Ellis Paxson Oberholtzer[edit]

Although the one article gives her surname as "Oberholzer", the two books linked from her author page have "Oberholtzer", and this latter spelling is also the one used at all major library databases. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:59, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Hence why I did the redirect to the one with the T. I didn't know how to execute the move, so thanks for doing that. Mathmitch7 (talk) 22:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
In the process you also changed the spelling of her middle name to Paxon. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
Ah, good catch, much thanks! Mathmitch7 (talk) 21:06, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

smaller vs. smaller block[edit]

If you are formatting a single word, single line, or a single paragraph, then {{smaller}} is sufficient. The template {{smaller block}} is only required if there are line breaks or more than one paragraph. The same is true of other templates with a "block" version: The "block" in the template name identifies it as working when more than one paragraph is to be formatted with a single template. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:03, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Library of congress scans[edit]

Hi, I replied to you; see Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help#Library_of_Congress_scans? --JBhistorian (talk) 02:53, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Author pages[edit]

Author pages have two top-levels sections "Works" and "Works about X". Everything else should be under one of those headings, and we prefer simple headings to complex ones. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:49, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Proofreading[edit]

Remember, the goal is to make our text match the scan of the original. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

The scan was low-resolution enough that I legitimately thought that was a "z", not an "s." I zoomed in and I agree with your interpretation now. Mathmitch7 (talk) 18:25, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Plays of Roswitha[edit]

This work is currently for a Proofread of the Month later this year. It is usually considered bad form to work on a nomination ahead of its month, because that would leave us without something to do that month.

If you are interested in working on something that would fill a significant hole in Wikisource coverage, I could probably point you to a few things. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh, didn't know, as I only came across it by looking for a 1923 book with an index page that is not proofread. I generally do alright with finding works... I've already contributed pages here and there to more works that I could really ever complete. Still, if you have a wishlist... Mathmitch7 (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Virgil is one of the most important writers of the ancient world, but until today we didn't have a translation of his Eclogues, and the only good copy of his Georgics we have is 300 years old.

I found Index:Eclogues and Georgics (Mackail 1910).djvu, and the Eclogues pages are set up (headers, paragraph breaks, etc.) so those pages just need to be proofread. The Georgics fall into four books, and the links are set up, but those pages haven't been done at all yet. The advantages of this translation are (1) Mackail was considered a leading scholar on Virgil, (2) the translation is prose (so less formatting), and (3) no footnotes, special formatting, or special characters. Even if you just finished the 32 Eclogues pages, it would be a great thing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:20, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks fam Mathmitch7 (talk) 23:23, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Linking scans[edit]

For A translation of the Latin works of Dante Alighieri, was that the best scan available? Best practice is to check the scan for problems, and link good-quality scans. Otherwise we end up with editors uploading poor-quality scans or damaged scans that need repairs. Among other issues, the scan you linked seems to either be missing pages, or perhaps have an extra one somewhere. Some of the recto and verso pages are off; in other words odd-numbered pages are showing up on the left, which is where even-numbered pages ought to be, and vice-versa. The images and text also seem to have scanned badly. If there is a better scan, always prefer it. When a scan is too badly damaged, or low-quality, I won't link it at all. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:12, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

It's the only English translation of many of Dante's works that I've yet found. No other version yet. I just checked every page, and it has all pages 1–428. Many of the pages (especially the left ones) are not scanned super well, but every page I've inspected closely is legible. I see no reason to remove the link, especially because it contains English translations of many of Dante's works that are yet unincluded. Still, if you find a better version, you're free to replace it. Mathmitch7 (talk) 19:05, 10 January 2019 (UTC)