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While the original scanned docs are of course in PD, the actual content of the text appears to be simply transcribed from the scans. I have no way of discerning how accurate the transcription is, and judging by the very poor quality of images uploaded by the main editor, User:Chuck Marean, I don't think we can trust this information is accurate. I am very open to any sort of evidence the book is either accurate, or that this type of transcription w/o proof is acceptable here.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:06, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Do you have any evidence it's not accurate? We have scans and transcribed text from the scans. I don't see any reason to delete it on the pure assumption that it might be inaccurate.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
Many of the images are crudely colored sketches presumably based on drawings in the original work. this is clear evidence of poor understanding of how faithfully turn a source text into an editable document. I have no direct evidence for poor transcription. I should also point out the editor has been permanently blocked at WP, including his own talk page, indefinitely, for a complete lack of competency, and no understanding of what the project was actually attempting.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:34, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Keep until such time as a full copy of the book is brought in to replace this version. It does appear to go against our policy on annotations, but was created before we developed that policy and we agreed to grandparent works from before that time. The text does have some scan backing and has been validated. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:58, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
  •  Keep per BWC — billinghurst sDrewth 10:16, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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This looks like a test fragment, as opposed to a complete work. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@George Orwell III: is this one of your play things? — billinghurst sDrewth 12:10, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes and no. Folks should really utilize What links here for files, indexes and such first.

Please keep it around until I can organize an effort to host the entire new Compendium III. -- George Orwell III (talk) 20:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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speedy kept, undeleted at Commons, within scope — billinghurst sDrewth 12:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

No file. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Deleted at Commons, Undeletion request made. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Should the work not be restored at Commons, is there any reason it can not be hosted here? JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 11:00, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Files undeleted at Commons, licensed as {{OGL}} and {{PD-EdictGov}} — billinghurst sDrewth 12:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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No file.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:20, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Deleted at Commons, Undeletion request made. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:03, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Should the work not be restored at Commons, is there any reason it can not be hosted here? JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 11:00, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Fixed at Commons. Pity people cannot check for appropriate licences. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:57, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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Source file was deleted at commons over copyright concerns. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:59, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy kept published before 1923, file moved to English Wikisource. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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1911 work, now held locally under PD-1923 Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:34, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Seemingly deleted at Commons, willing to withdraw if work is locally uploaded.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:22, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean by "seemingly deleted"? You are the editor who nominated it there for deletion, with the comment that it is PD-US. You were quite able to upload it locally before requesting its deletion. Instead you have created extra work by going about it backwards.

Undelete on Commons, transfer to local, redelete on Commons. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:38, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Celebration_of_the_Five_Hundredth_Anniversary_of_Foundation.2C_University_of_St._Andrews.djvu filed. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:31, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
Note: All authors born before 1880, if an end date is required for "do not move to Commons", then 1880+110+70=2060 (and not before 2035 at earliest) aka someone else's problem — billinghurst sDrewth 02:52, 19 September 2014‎ (UTC)
For further discussion refer to User talk:Billinghurst/Archives/2014#Dates?. Thanks! Solomon7968 (talk) 09:32, 30 November 2014‎ (UTC)

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Non admin closure, File restored at Commons

Missing file, Rename at Commons? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Restored , So withdrawn ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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File restored at Commons

Missing file, Deleted at Commons? Will withdraw if restored or uploaded locally. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:29, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Restored, so withdrawn.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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File restored at Commons

Missing file, Deleted at Commons? Will withdraw if restored or uploaded locally. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Restored, so withdrawn.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure,File restored at Commons

Missing file, Deleted at Commons? Will withdraw if restored or uploaded locally. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:45, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Restored, so withdrawn.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Kept; work is out of copyright. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:56, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

This may be a 1906 edition, but the issue here is that the cover may not be from the original edition, placing it here because I'd like a second opinion.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:44, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

There's no copyright notice for a book from the 1960s published in the US, so it's out of copyright.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:49, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Withdrawn, provided the Commons license is updated :) Good that I asked here. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:09, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Also I note Dover are a "reprint" house anyway, so (inserts GLAM wishlist project idea here)ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:11, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
That Dover is a "reprint" house is irrelevant; they do reprints of public domain works, they do reprints of in copyright work, they do original anthologies of PD material, they do original translations of PD material, and they do some completely original works. Back in the day, they also did a number of works that were restored to copyright by the URAA (including some that are now in copyright basically worldwide.) That a huge percentage of their works are photographic reprints of works does not mean that their name is a copyright pass.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)


Deleted

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Deleted and redirected.--Mpaa (talk) 10:11, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I believe that this template which is just a reverse implementation of {{tooltip}} should be dispensed with. The rendition should be reversed as a conversion to tooltip, and then replace with a redirect. I cannot see the point of the back to front version. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:26, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Went through this over the pr-typos/corrections.js "debate" & while its true that PopupNote seems to be just reversing params {{{2}}} & {{{1}}} of ToolTip, for the most part, - the remaining issue where one template or the other used {{{named}}} parameters initially while the other(s) didn't making the straight-forward solution not so simple. At some point in time, a similar consolidation of like-function templates took place (3rd template?) and that's when it dawned on somebody the target and the tip parameters were reversed in some cases and I believe the deprecated template at that time filled in as way to overcome that lack of named parameters/reverse order issue.
Now if there is a way to standardize both families via Bot into a single template (or w/ the loser becoming a redirect), I'd gladly support the deletion. Without any progress on that front, I'd have to lean towards oppose. -- George Orwell III (talk) 10:19, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
You folks do realise {{SIC}} chains to {{popup note}}, don't you? There is probably a lot more usage of this template than immediately meets the eye. In all other respects I concur with GOIII (well, I didn't know the history..) above. 58.165.185.82 16:47, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
Couldn't {{SIC}} be based on {{tooltip}} instead? The true usage of {{popup note}} would be much less then.--Mpaa (talk) 17:21, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
As originator of this template, I'd like to note that it predates {{tooltip}} by about a year, at least on this site. It was created without knowledge that the the similar w:Template:tooltip existed on Wikipedia, by replicating some code found elsewhere on the net. However, it appears likely that User:Bob Burkhardt was aware of {{popup note}} when he copied over tooltip from Wikipedia, as he changed the colour of the dotted line to cornflowerblue (from black on Wikipedia) to match. I agree the templates should be merged, but I think "popup note" or similar is more descriptive and therefore easier to remember (for those without a comp sci background) than "tooltip". --T. Mazzei (talk) 20:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
  • If interest in merging this function still exists please do so. I will close this as "no consensus" on my next housekeeping pass, if it remains inactive. Jeepday (talk) 10:57, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

@Jeepday: This template was converted to use tooltip Special:Diff/3988379 by Eliyak, so I would prefer that we look to update any underlying components and mark this as deprecated as a minimum. Running a bot through to capture and invert $1 and $2 is pretty easy. I could have done that earlier, when I proposed the deletion, but that is unfair and imposes my own PoV and prefer that a discussion was had first. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:45, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

note: I have converted Template:SIC to utilise Template:Tooltipbillinghurst sDrewth 12:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
While looking to tidy, I see that Template:definition was just a variation of popup note, now tooltip. Seems like that should just become a redirect, or be converted too. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:58, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I would delete Template:definition as well. I see no point in keeping it.--Mpaa (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
I have replaced the uses of Template:Definition so whomever closes this can determine whether to delete or convert to a redirect, noting that there is a redirect Def. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:15, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Started to replace {{popup note}} with {{tooltip}} as MpaaBot. I'll do it a little at a time. Let me know, should you find issues.--Mpaa (talk) 19:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

{{Hebrew}} is based on {{popup note}}. Can someone see it if it can be replaced with {{tooltip}}. Thanks.--Mpaa (talk) 18:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Done for what it is worth. I suspect there is a lot of scope for simplification. AuFCL (talk) 21:49, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks.--Mpaa (talk) 22:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


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As above, a hand transcribed work, of questionable accuracy, with amateur images uploaded as well.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:17, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

I find it quite different from above. We have no scans, we're missing most chapters, and looking at the chapters we do have, like Prince of peace/Chapter 3, Jesus the boy, don't look like they're complete.--Prosfilaes (talk) 04:52, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
I removed the amateur images, prior to a full review of them for deletion at the commons. i normally dont like to alter files up for deletion, but what i removed cannot stand even if this file is kept in any form. dont like having to mention this, but the creator was permabanned at the english WP for a complete inability to comprehend editing guidelines.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:10, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
  • The labeling of the images is certainly creative. A picture of Christ set into the floor is labelled "Angel warns Mary", and the event of his circumcision as a baby is labeled as his baptism (which didn't happen until he was 30). Weird. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:43, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
    • yes, i noticed the labels seemed off. i didnt go further with figuring out how close the labels/comments actually were to what they portray. I of course would LIKE to think the work is salvageable, and maybe some tweaks could make it a good source, but im doubting that a lot.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:16, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
  • I hope that work in some form is salvageable too! It has some bodacious beautiful illustrations! Create a category and save the images? —Maury (talk) 19:33, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
  •  Delete the work is snippets and it doesn't look retrievable in its current form. If we can get a scan or a verified version of the work, then that should not prohibit its recreation. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:14, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

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This file is a picture of Author:Jane Addams, however, it is unused due to there being a better image available. It is small and of no particular quality, I cannot transwiki to commons as there is insufficient information available to populate the template. Do we just delete it, as it is sitting here with little purpose, and no ability to be externally linked? — billinghurst sDrewth 12:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

delete per above.--Mpaa (talk) 16:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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File:522px-Book-Wikisource-logo.png
This image seems to have been a design presumably as part of our visual branding. It is unused, has no information supplied for it, and I am not seeing a purpose to transwiki to Commons. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:04, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
delete per above.--Mpaa (talk) 16:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Bookkeeping files

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Three files that were tranwikied from enWB, in what looks like an attempt to save them. They are not related to any works that we have, nor we would ever have.

billinghurst sDrewth 14:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

delete per above.--Mpaa (talk) 16:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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Deleted

This work is just two images (boths scans of a page of a work) on root page, with no text, and the remainder of the images not added. I will be moving the images to Commons, as they qualify to be transwiki'd. The work itself is in scope, however, with two images and no text, it isn't in scope in its current form. I propose that we delete it, without prejudice of being redone, until we can get a form with text layers. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Deleted and redirected

A version of William Langland's work that is in Latin and Old English, though we just have the prologue, no source, and as it was contributed in 2008, it seems unlikely that it will ever be completed. There is already an existing translation of the work at Piers Ploughman (Wright). I would suggest that if the work is deleted that it be redirected to Piers Plowman which is a {{versions}} page. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:00, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the deletion and proposed solution, but the information used above to support this is incorrect. The work by Langland is in Middle English, not in Latin or Old English. The Wright publication is not a translation; it is simply another edition of the same Middle English work, possibly assembled from different surviving manuscripts, but it is the Langland work, it is still in Middle English, and it is not a translation. Again, however, I agree with the proposal of deletion and redirection. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:14, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Yep I misspoke about the translation aspect, the chapter titles are in Latin. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:05, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:History of Hindu Mathematics, 1935.djvuShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:28, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deleted, file was deleted, and published after 1923 without information about death of author. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:39, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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local file deleted, not at Commons — billinghurst sDrewth 02:55, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Underlying file seemingly deleted as being Out of scope? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:54, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Delete I can't find any history of such a file existing on Commons. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:00, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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speedy deleted; redundant/inferior to the other existing transcription - plus there was absolutely nothing left to "save" in the Page: ns for this Index: & File: to boot. — George Orwell III (talk) 20:14, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

(and associated index)

Apart from being a 1959 reprint (which may still be copyright) this is a duplicate to File:Principia Ethica 1922.djvu which is confirmably pre 1923. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:35, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure, Redirects cleaned as requested.

(And remaining page namespace redirects) Work was retitled. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure, Redirects cleaned as requested.

(and remaining page namespace redirects). Work was re-titled.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:39, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure, Redirects cleaned as requested.

Typo in creation process (would if not indexspace be a speedy delete)ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure, Redirects cleaned as requested.

(and remaining namespace reidrects)- File was moved at commons, and retitled localy.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:11, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure, Redirects cleaned as requested.

(and associated Page namespace redirects) Retitled at Commons, Local pages were re-aligned. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:05, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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this file has missing pages, and there is another copy of the same edition that has its pages in order, or so it seems

see more details on the index page of the subj please Tar-ba-gan (talk) 19:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

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speedy deleted; redundant/inferior to the other existing transcription. — George Orwell III (talk) 01:35, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

This Index and all associated pages. The Index is fallow and its pages are bot-generated, unused, and and unproofread. They duplicate ongoing work at Index:JPS-1917-Universal.djvu. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:00, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

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speedy deleted; published in German; needs transcription on that project first before Page: namespace can be utilized for translation to English here. — George Orwell III (talk) 01:05, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Not english and no OCR layer. -- ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:08, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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speedy deleted; published in Spanish; no license or source information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Non English work, unclear license, possibly out of scope or intended as Wikibooks material?


Other

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Not an exact duplicate of Index:Nemesis (1881, c1870).djvu but the latter recently uploaded does not appear to have missing pages..ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:04, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Please clarify. We allow for versions, so I don't see an issue presented for deletion. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:33, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
It was my understanding that incomplete works weren't retained? If that isn't an issue, the former can be Djvu-patched and retained. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:53, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
Withdrawn, Different editions, so no deletion issue actually raised here. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:19, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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Non admin closure, Withdrawn,

And related.

I am having a very hard time considering the scan quality on these to be viable, but would like a second opinion. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't see what the problem with this is. It's US-no notice or US-no renewal, but except for the watermarks, it's not a bad scan, at least from a glance at the start.--Prosfilaes (talk) 03:18, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Try looking a little further in. For me the scans are not readable.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
The bibliography is perfectly readable. Try giving a page number.--Prosfilaes (talk) 19:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Withdrawn, It must be a pecularity of my browser :( ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:05, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
Withdraen but seriously, can you read this? Page:The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, Volume I.pdf/226

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Exported many amended laws to Wikibooks as no one says anything.--Jusjih (talk) 23:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I am not deleting everything linked from there, as I propose to keep unamended laws of the Republic of China as a non-English speaking country now based in Taiwan, but I see its amended laws too hard to maintain here because:

  1. Even governmental translations do not cover all amendments, then prefixing "Translation:" to translations by wiki user by not governmental translations complicates maintenance. For example, Copyright Act (Republic of China) has been amended so many times, so having Copyright Act (Republic of China, 2003) and Copyright Act (Republic of China, 2006) but potentially others prefixed "Translation:" would be very odd.
  2. Even when the original texts remain unamended, their governmental translations at web pages might change without notice, thus becoming evolving works.
  3. I have asked at Wikibooks to prepare reviews from article to article. May we have a page like b:Republic of China Law/Civil Code/Article 8 here to show all amended articles? I think not as this compilation does not look like source text. If you think not, either, I plan to export amended laws of the Republic of China to Wikibooks and rearrange them there, after getting support from Wikibooks, to hopefully ease the maintenance.--Jusjih (talk) 04:35, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Here are many exported and deleted articles:

  • Central Regulation Standard Act
  • Civil Associations Act
  • Civil Code/Part I
  • Civil Code/Part II
  • Civil Code/Part III
  • Civil Code/Part IV
  • Civil Code/Part V
  • Criminal Code of the Armed Forces
  • Criminal Code of the Armed Forces (2001)
  • Criminal Code of the Republic of China
  • Enforcement Act of the Part of General Principles of the Civil Code
  • Enforcement Act of the Part of Obligations of the Civil Code
  • Enforcement Act of the Part of Rights In Rem of the Civil Code
  • Enforcement Law for Part IV, Family Law of the Civil Code
  • Enforcement Law for Part V, Succession Law of the Civil Code
  • Hot Spring Act (Republic of China)
  • Immigration Act
  • Immigration Act (Republic of China, 2003)
  • Act of Military Service System
  • Act of Military Service System (2000)
  • The Motion Picture Act (Republic of China)
  • Name Act
  • National Park Law (Republic of China)
  • Nationality Act (Republic of China)
  • Passport Act
  • Postal Act
  • Red Cross Society Act of the Republic of China
  • The ROC Office of the President Organization Act
  • Act Governing Relations between the People of the Taiwan Area and the Mainland Area
  • Punishment Act for Violation to Military Service System

Some of these pages may be re-created as disambiguation pages as needed. I will think how to handle Temporary Provisions Effective During the Period of Communist Rebellion, Additional Articles of the Constitution of the Republic of China, and Copyright Act (Republic of China) as these have been amended and keeping them will not work well.--Jusjih (talk) 23:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

I have exported the remainders as well.--Jusjih (talk) 06:42, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Pages in Index:Arcana Coelestia - Volume I.djvu

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Pages and Indexes deleted to allow replacement source file uploads. — George Orwell III (talk) 21:25, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

This volume is part of a 12 volume series of books. It is dated at 1941 which also are some of the other volumes, others are dated at 1915 etc. After a search today I found what must be the original volumes dated around the 1870s which are 10 instead of 12 with the same content. I propose to delete all 12 volumes I uploaded so the can be replaced by the 10 volume originals which I wish to replace them with. I haven't done much proofreading (2 pages) so that's not a problem. Jpez (talk) 21:07, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

A few things....
  1. all the pages created in the Page: namespace for volumes 1 thru 12 should be deleted. I've already taken care of Volumes 1 & 2 -- I didn't find any others in Volumes 3 thru 12 but you should double-check that.
  2. unless you plan to use different File: names for the new set of volumes yet to be uploaded than the ones currently being used for their associated Index: pages, you can simply upload over the current source files on Commons with the new DjVus. This way, the current Index: pages don't need to be deleted (except for the last 2 volumes) or renamed, etc. Of course, any existing pagelist assignments will need to be redone to match the new source files.
  3. if you do plan on using File: names other than the existing ones, you'll need to request deletion of the source files on Commons as well. Let us know if you go this route so all 12 Index: pages can be deleted here too.
Any questions. -- George Orwell III (talk) 00:59, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
I've replaced the djvu files using the same filenames so only the last 2 volumes need to be deleted. Jpez (talk) 06:04, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Done -- Volumes 11 & 12 deleted. -- George Orwell III (talk) 21:23, 19 December 2014 (UTC)