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Featured[edit]

Picturesque New Guinea[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Featured February 2012
This was Proofread of the Month a few months ago and has been fully validated. On top of the technical requirements, it looks pretty, has an interesting subject and the travelogue style of book would be fairly novel in the list of texts featured to date. The actual text used on the main page could be based on the biographical information for John William Lindt. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 01:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Support. The work is validated from its index and respects all style guidelines. It would be a good featured text.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 15:13, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Support.Zhaladshar (Talk) 21:32, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Featured February 2012 - AdamBMorgan (talk) 20:57, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Flatland (first edition)[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for March 2012
Fully validated text with source and appears to be in good order. Flatland is famous work, both a social satire and an early form of science fiction. There is a Wikipedia article for descriptive text purposes. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 01:18, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Shaving Made Easy[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for April 2012 - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:53, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Validated DjVu again, and all technical requirements appear to have been met. This one is not a famous work and I have no idea what the descriptive text on the main page might be but I like the unusual nature of the subject matter. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Support - Sufficiently organized and meets all our requirements. My only suggestion is to change the images to "frameless" width instead of hardcoded. - Theornamentalist (talk) 01:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Support.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 22:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Popular Science Monthly/Volume 1[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for July 2012 - AdamBMorgan (talk) 02:04, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
The PSM WikiProject is one of the largest on Wikisource, with lots of individual articles already transcribed. Volume 1 has been fully validated from DjVu and should be an appropriate thing to highlight on the main page. There is an article on Wikipedia about Popular Science for descriptive text purposes. There have been no periodicals as featured texts to date. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 19:49, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. Fully. A review is recommended, though. From a sample check I found that, in some cases, page numbers of transcluded page is not correct and, to be really picky, {{nop}} should be checked, as sometimes they are missed. --Mpaa (talk) 21:11, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
    I have been looking through for corrections that may still need to be made and I'll continue doing so this month. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Provisionally selected for July 2012. There is still time for objections; if any are made, the text can be deselected until these are resolved. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I added a detailed response and the list of issues to be corrected before selection. — Ineuw talk 17:10, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Completed all the required corrections and additions. Added the missing {{nop}}, corrected the page numbers, anchored the titles and linked the anchors to the index at the end of the volume. Now it's all in your hands. :-) — Ineuw talk 05:17, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. William Maury Morris II (talk) 09:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Homes of the London Poor[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for August 2012
In this month (May) we have been doing on the works of Octavia Hill, who in August will have died 100 years past. I would like to recommend this specific work of Hill for the FT for August. It is approx. 80 pages in length, and is a work of importance at that time, to the point that it was translated into German by one of the English royal family. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - AdamBMorgan (talk) 17:53, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Provisionally selected for August 2012. There is still time for objections; if any are made, the text can be deselected until these are resolved. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I also support for this work to be the August 2012 featured text due to the hundredth anniversary of Octavia Hill's death.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 08:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
  • I would like to support this, but I cannot at this time. I haven't finished reading the second essay and have already found four OCR errors and hyphenated word at page break not templates with hws/hwe. I wasn't comparing it the text to the image, but just reading. I feel this needs another round of validation before putting it in the main page.BirgitteSB 03:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll volunteer to give it another round of validation (It's short enough)... If I have any questions about anything, I'll be sure to ask... Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Picky question, but do you prefer people’s over people's ? (where apostrophes are concerned)... And should I be asking these questions on the Index Talk page for this work? Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:28, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
It needs to be consistent throughout the work. Make a call and note it on the Index Talk page, so that it's documented for future reference. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 02:05, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Second round of validation is complete. Letter by letter, word by word, line by line, page by page. Scattered OCR errors (about one per page found) corrected, end-of-line spaces, hws/hwe, & other corrections/adjustments for uniformity, etc. Support by me. Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 23:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
My pleasure... It was well worth the read. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Mexico, as it was and as it is[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected as featured text for September 2012 - AdamBMorgan (talk) 18:43, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
Interesting study of Mexico in 1847. Covers anthropology, social mores, politics, religion and geography along with extensive notes on the benefit the Panama Canal would bring. The images are mostly line-drawings by the author of various artifacts he came across in his travels. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - This work was done by users of 3 nations working together. The illustrations themselves are highly instructive as a teaching/learning tool. William Maury Morris II (talk) 16:06, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - This book enlightnened on uknown history of Mexico and took me through a tour of Mexico as it was.--Raúl Gutiérrez (talk) 00:30, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:19, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. However, it needs categorization by type.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 19:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Betelguese, a trip through hell[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for October, included with three other Halloween-appropriate texts to be cycled during that month. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 18:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
A bizarre poem, fitting for a Halloween week feature if possible (though admittedly unusual since we typically feature one per month). Fully validated and formatted to meet FT requirements.

On a side note, I finished working on the wikipedia article a day or so ago, and asked for it to be suspended in the "Did you know..." queue for Halloween. - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:11, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Support - It is usual to feature one text per month, but given the shorter length of this poem compared to the usual selections, it might be possible in October to do a double feature with Poe's "The Raven" (nom above), or do each one of these poems for two weeks in that month, in keeping with the (er...) spirit of the season. Does not appear to yet be categorized by type, but I'm not sure which type it belongs to. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:40, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Submit More - October is an "unusual" month too. Betelguese is interesting but has no illustrations whereas Halloween is, to a great extent, about decorations and costumes. The month itself is very graphic and colorful. If Betelguese is combined with an illustrated work for Halloween then each will assist in carrying the other. But too, The Raven is so well known so I would like to see some other submissions--perhaps the illustrated "Hound of the Baskervilles". I am all for two featured texts whenever possible but they must be the right blend -- a winning combination for the eyes, mind, and emotions of the beholder. Holidays should be illustrated as much as possible. They are festivities. All too often we are confronted with just words--all text--and that gets bland--and especially for the holidays that are so colorful. Something for the adult, something for the child, something for the child within the adult and not too mild. —William Maury Morris IITalk 04:30, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:39, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
    NB: If we go with the proposal below that October has multiple concurrent featured texts, then I suggest this one (as the initial suggestion and an independent proposal) gets the final slot that coincides with Halloween itself. Otherwise this should be the featured text for all of October. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:38, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Possible Featured Texts for October & Halloween[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Four texts agreed (nominated and at least one vote) for October. Adapted form of the PotM algorithm implemented to cycle through them daily at different times. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 18:23, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
* Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde (illustrated)

William Maury Morris IITalk 05:07, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

This is a little selfish as I've been working on WT a lot but it qualifies, it's a horror story and it's illustrated (twice if you count the magazine's cover). - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • By that criterion, then "Betelguese" has two illustrations as well: the cover and a plate. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:30, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Support: While The Door into Infinity from Weird Tales has only one illustration it is truly a horror story and being short, one can read through it quickly. Because of it's wording one can also read through it easily without wondering about rhetoric of gods and muses of an alternate universe, dimension and time. These featured works are not for us alone, they are for all who pause at our window display. If attention is not captured within the first few seconds the viewers are likely to go elsewhere. I learned this "through the looking glass" of BBS' and Internet Service Provider -- watched people from many nations when they stopped at various places. On the other side of a BBS or ISP, people who come by can easily be watched as to what they do right down to trying to correct their own spelling. Thus the importance of illustrations to catch the eye and to judge stay-time. Still, again, we can have more than one work and while one can display illustrations, the other need not be illustrated. Do not have only one short work for an entire month. —William Maury Morris IITalk 20:09, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Regarding the current list: Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde is a second-hand work, not validated from a scan; so I oppose this one on technical grounds. It has been suggested that Amazing Stories be kept for next May; also, although it contains two horror stories, it isn't really Halloween themed; so I think we should leave this for another month. Le Corbeau (Mallarmé) and The Hound of the Baskervilles both qualify and I support these two. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:35, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Another one: Games for Hallow-e'en, 1912 by Mary Emma Barse. I've added a scan to a text that was previously unsourced. It's not the same as the others but, if it can be validated in time, I think it's appropriate. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Comments

  • Comment: I'm happy to try for, say, a weekly featured text in October; all Halloween themed. In organisation and technical terms: I'm not sure how we would want to divide the month. We could count the week commencing Monday 29th as a fifth week but, if so, it is only 3 days long. Alternatively, the fourth text (in week commencing Monday 22nd) could just roll over into the end of the month. Bear in mind that this would have to be done manually as the current template functions on a monthly schedule (and re-engineering it for this event in just two weeks may not be feasible). Any admin can do that but one or more should try to pay attention to it. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 11:47, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment - I also favor the idea of featuring more than one text for October. I repeat my suggestion above, though, that the first issue of Amazing Stories might be held until April, to coincide with the original date of its publication, or until May, to coincide with the next Nebula Awards. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:30, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Another comment: Theornamentalist suggested on the talk page that we alternate texts during October by using a random selector. I have set up a quick and dirty version on Main Page/sandbox to show how that might work (although at the moment there are only 3 texts from which to randomly select). Is this OK with everyone (it can be cleaned up and adjusted) or should we schedule works by the day/week? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Yet Another comment: By alternating by using a random selector we may not get the preferred work we all would like to Support the most on Halloween Day. Otherwise, I think it is a good idea to randomly alternate. —William Maury Morris IITalk 22:22, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment - The more I used the random selector the better I liked it. It is a wonderful idea and may possibly be used for more than one Holiday season or just for each month. We have a lot of texts that can be displayed and the random selector gives passers-by an option as well as catches their eye to give pause and look. Also, who doesn't like new gadgets on Internet? —William Maury Morris IITalk 05:42, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
    We can certainly try it for other holidays if this is successful. Christmas 2012 is provisionally "booked" already but any holiday in 2013 is open. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:21, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment—Another way of setting up a rotation would be to steal the code from Wikisource:Proofread of the Month/Coding, which we use for the November PotM Validation month. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:37, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
    I've taken a look at this and adapted it for the October featured text. It looks a little neater the random selection and purge link. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:21, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Bull-dog Drummond[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for November 2012 - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:07, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
The first of a series that was very popular in the middle of the last century and influential on subsequent fiction (such as James Bond). This work was completed as a Proofread of the Month and has been fully validated throughout. (For reference, Wikipedia has an article on both the book and the character.) - AdamBMorgan (talk) 20:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Support.--Erasmo Barresi (talk) 22:24, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment - Having downloaded this recently as an ePub file, before it can be a FT all the {{—}} need to be changed to emdashes throughout. In the ePub file the template has come out as ?—?. This makes the book difficult to read. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:07, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
    I have removed all of the templated m-dashes and replaced them plain text. This should be OK now. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:07, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:31, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Black Beauty[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Selected for December 2012 - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
A classic children's story and first example of a subgenre of fiction ("pony books"). The text has been validated from DjVu. Both the book and the author have articles on Wikipedia for descriptive text. The last featured piece of children's literature was in April 2011. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 19:49, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Support - Theornamentalist (talk) 17:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support.–-Erasmo Barresi (talk) 19:56, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. Great illustrations, classic tale, educational, encyclopedic, great value for multiple cross project synergy. -- Cirt (talk) 15:01, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Support. This coming 24 November will mark the 135th anniversary of its publication, but this book would also make a great selection for December and the holiday season. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

The Art of Nijinsky[edit]

Moved to the 2013 archive.

Not passed[edit]

The Raven[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Not featured. An alternative version of the poem is to be featured in October 2012. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 13:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
Possibly Edgar Allan Poe's most famous work and the one that made his name. This version is from a scan of one of the two simultaneous original publications (this one is The American Review). It has been proofread, validated etc. On the other hand, Poe's works have been featured once already (The Black Cat), which may count against this. Additionally, the rest of the magazine has still not been proofread. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 20:42, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Flappers and Philosophers[edit]

The following discussion is closed: No support after several months. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
F. Scott Fitzgerald's first collection of short stories; he is cosidered one of the great writers of the 20th century so featuring his work at some point seems approriate. The text has been validated from DjVu. Both the collection and the individual short stories have (brief) articles on Wikipedia; as well as a much longer C-Class biography of the author himself. One possible objections is that we already have lots of featured short stories, even from the same period. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 19:49, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Note: The big new film of The Great Gatsby is currently scheduled for release in May, 2013. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:28, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

The Fables of Florian[edit]

The following discussion is closed: No votes after more than a year, dso not selected. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Another POTM alumnus; fully validated with DjVu source etc. We have had a few works of children's literature but nothing quite the same as far as I can tell and another can't hurt. It includes the origin of the quotation "'Tis he laughs best who laughs the last." (in The Two Peasants). Main page text could be based on the author's brief Wikipedia biography. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 01:02, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Whitehall Mystery[edit]

The following discussion is closed: No support after several months. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 22:35, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
* The Whitehall Discovery Inquest Today

"On 2 October, 1888, during construction of Scotland Yard's new headquarters on the Victoria Embankment near Whitehall in Westminster, a worker found a parcel containing human remains.The female torso was discovered in a three-month old vault that made up part of the cellar."

The really creepy part about "Jack the Ripper" is that he was never caught. Perhaps we should keep some of October in England so I can sleep (in the USA) at night. smileyWilliam Maury Morris IITalk 19:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to have to oppose these. They are second hand and not proofread from scans per the featured text guidelines. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 12:16, 24 September 2012 (UTC)