User talk:Balajijagadesh

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Again, welcome! Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

What is the use of proof reading in Wikisource?[edit]

{{tl:helpme}} I am interested in proof reading in wikisource. But I have a doubt? when the original text book is available what is the use of proof reading? We can simply use the original text itself right? So I can find the right motivation for proof reading I will participate in wikisource with more enthusiasm Balajijagadesh (talk) 13:44, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

While the original texts are available, they are frequently not searchable. This is either because they are available as images rather than text or because the text has been machine read from those images and there are OCR errors. What we are doing by proofreading is making the texts accessible as well as available. A good place to start proofreading is the Proofread of the Month. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:52, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Unapproved bot[edit]

Hi Balajijagadesh,

The English Wikisource Bot policy requires bots to have prior approval before running. Please post a request in the appropriate section of the Scriptorium before making any automated edits. Note the information required of such requests in the bot policy. Please also constrain automated edits to the bot account (BalajijagadeshBot) and not your regular user account.

PS. The template to request quick deletion of mistakenly created pages is {{sdelete}} (with a reason referencing one of the criteria for speedy deletion, often G7: Author request). The {{delete}} template is for non-speedy deletions and requires community discussion at Proposed deletions. I'll go ahead and assume you meant the former and delete the bot-created pages for you. --Xover (talk) 09:08, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Xover:. I meant the sdelete. thanks for doing the needful. Regards -- Balaji (Let's talk) 10:06, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Copyright and authorship detail...[edit]

Thanks for your recent uploads, but Wikisource needs more information about the author lifetimes to determine if the works you uploaded are acceptable from a copyright perspective. With some uploads IA sourced material does not necessarily have full copyright details, to make a clear determination as to Public Domain status. It would be appreciated if you could provide more information concerning the author lifetimes. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:51, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Hi, thanks for bringing it up. I am mainly relying on the the copyright {{PD-old-70-1923}} which states that "This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1924." So many of the uploads rely on this cut of date of Jan 1, 1924 publication. Kindly let me know if my understanding is wrong. Regards -- Balaji (Let's talk) 09:58, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Your approach is mis-guided. For anything published outside the US, the first thing to check is when the authors died, If it's after 1948 then those works can't be uploaded to Commons. Beware of modern reprints as well, as these may contain additional editorial notes that have more recent copyrights. Only after that criteria has been applied can the 1924 cutoff be applied.

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:04, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi @ShakespeareFan00: thanks for the reply. I am still confused that if the old expired 70 years before the current date (for example to make it simple I am considering US only) it automatically qualifies for PD isnt it? then why do we need to apply second criteria? The question is only deepening my understanding. I will in the mean time try to get information regarding the death date of authors. If I am unable to find the death date of some of the authors what will be the next course of action? your guidance would be valuable. regards -- Balaji (Let's talk) 10:16, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
70 years post death for a single author.. Different rules apply if it's a 'corporate' work. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:43, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

If you can't find author death dates, then you will need to upload the file locally on English Wikisource rather than at Commons. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:43, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

okay -- Balaji (Let's talk) 10:50, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Surname -> Author:Pillaipundagudi Thiruvengadattaiyangar Srinivasa Iyengar[edit]

Quick question for you for this author would it be more accurate to use the family name for Author:Pillaipundagudi Thiruvengadattaiyangar Srinivasa Iyengar

  • Srinivasa Iyengar; or
  • Iyengar

My reason for asking is that The Indian Biographical Dictionary (1915) states "Srinivasa Iyengar" [1], eg. Srinivasa Iyengar, Ramanujapuram Anantham Pillai

Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: yes.. Indian name dont have that structure of names. srinivasa is given/first name. so definitely not survame. Iyengar may be considered as last name/surname. thanks -- Balaji (Let's talk) 06:13, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Uploads vs transcription[edit]

Hi. I understand the pleasure of uploading a work and creating an index page and corresponding author page. This place, however, works far better with interspersing that with meaningful edits on transcriptions in the Page: namespace. Setting it up and leaving it for others achieves very little. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:35, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Sure.. thanks.. -- Balaji (Let's talk) 01:52, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
@Billinghurst: how to proceed in the following case "These scans have an associated text layer, but it is misaligned with respect to the scans provided.

Before transcription or proofreading the OCR text should be re-aligned with the scans." ? How to align them.? -- Balaji (Let's talk) 01:56, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

If a fix is required for a djvu file, there is a section on WS:S to request a fix. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

The Tamils Eighteen Hundred Years Ago[edit]

Thank you very much for proofreading this work. Wikisource needs more works from and about southern India. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: Thanks for the encouragement. -- Balaji (Let's talk) 07:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Please don't use Template:page[edit]

Hi. Use of {{page}} is meant to be a last resort, not a first choice. Please continue to use <pages> in such a place, and if you prefer to not use from= and to= (and yes they can be the same), then please utilise include=. Also we wouldn't typically use override_author to abbreviate a name, we are pretty liberal in creating redirects from shortened author names. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:11, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi. @Billinghurst: can you please give me some context of regarding which edits are you talking? -- Balaji (Let's talk) 03:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
On the Coromandel Coastbillinghurst sDrewth 03:24, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi. @Billinghurst:. Thanks for letting me know. That page was not created by me. From history I see @TE(æ)A,ea.: has created that page. I just added few categories. I created few sub pages like On the Coromandel Coast/Chapter 21 in which I used <pages>. -- Balaji (Let's talk) 03:30, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
D'oh. Thanks. Apologies. Clearly I was focused on the wrong bit. <sigh> — billinghurst sDrewth 03:32, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Life in India[edit]

I'm done with validation of the remaining pages. It's all green now. I re-did the poem on p. 216 and 217 using {{hanging indent}}. No one will notice unless they make the page narrow as seen in the book.

I updated the progress status on the index page. I've also gone back through each of the mainspace pages linked from the contents and looked for common goofs, and found a number of them, including some that I had missed before. But also found a couple other goofs, like "," should have been ".". Hidden mistakes always remain. (sigh)

Thank you for the project and the first pass. Very well done.

As for the text... Such a wide land — such a narrow view.   ;-)   Shenme (talk) 04:16, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

@Shenme: Thanks for your effort in validating all the pages in such short time and with your valuable comments. Looking forward to collaborate with you for more works in wikisource. Cheers -- Balaji (Let's talk) 05:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)