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Again, welcome! --Xover (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Some notes on proofreading[edit]

Hi EGG,

I ran across Page:Unfading flowers.pdf/8 that you just marked as proofread and wanted to mention a couple of things.

I see you're wrapping this and every other page in this work with {{block center/s}}{{block center/e}}. This work does not appear to actually contain centred text; or at least the pages I checked only have normal left-aligned but justified (vs. ragged right edge) text.

You also appear to be inserting a forced line break with <br /> where each line ends in the printed book. We do not reproduce the lines from the original work like that: we want lines to reflow when it's no longer constrained by the physical space in a paper book.

We also separate paragraphs with an extra line break (hit return twice) and leave out indentation of the start of a paragraph, even when the original uses that style of indicating paragraph breaks.

There also should not be any whitespace around punctuation (quotation marks, question marks, exclamation points, etc.).

Two rules of thumb here: 1) we do not aim to produce a diplomatic edition, just a reasonable representation of the original given the new medium, and 2) we reproduce faithfully what parts of the work stem from the author, but only loosely and adapted to our purposes the features that stem from the printer.

Hard line breaks, as an example, in almost all running prose is a simple function of the physical limitation of the size of the paper; but in poetry it helps conveys the poet's meaning. In the former case we want to reflow the text for a digital medium, in the latter we want to preserve the author's intent. The same for separating paragraphs: most of the time these are just incidentals of the printing process and irrelevant to the author's work, so we want to adapt these to our house style. --Xover (talk) 18:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Poem formatting[edit]

@NancyJoThisIsAlexisNeiers, @EGG-NLS: Hi! Just a quick note for you and about poem formatting. We have two ways to deal with poems with hard line breaks at Wikisource:

<poem>
Line 1
:Line 2
</poem>

or

Line 1<br/>
{{gap}}Line 2

You can refer to H:POEM for more, including block-centering of the poems in the page. Let me know if anything is not clear and I'll be happy to help! :-) Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 09:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

With reference to this edit which you reverted, the reason that {{block center/s}} are placed in the headers and footers as they were and not the body is so that when the pages are finally transcluded, they will have the same left margin rather than a slightly different left margin depending on the longest line on each page. The first and last page only should have the /s and /e templates in the body of the page content. Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 17:29, 17 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Small-caps[edit]

You may find the template {{sc}} (small-caps) useful for rendering Edinburgh as Edinburgh instead of EDINBURGH. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)Reply

History of the four Kings of Canterbury, Colchester, Cornwall, and Cumberland[edit]

Hello, thanks very much for validating the pages of the History of the four Kings of Canterbury, Colchester, Cornwall, and Cumberland. It is a very needed and appreciated kind of work here. Just a few remarks how to improve it:

  • We usually do not add a gap in the beginning of the first line of each paragraph, we usually leave it unindented. Exceptions are possible, so if really needed, the line can be indented using some template such as {{text-indent}} or {{dent}}.
  • It is better to join all the lines within a paragraph together and we always join divided words from ends and beginnings of lines.

See also my edit at the Page:History of the four Kings of Canterbury, Colchester, Cornwall, and Cumberland.pdf/10.

I am looking forward to your further contributions :-)

Cheers, --Jan Kameníček (talk) 12:42, 8 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

validation[edit]

Hi. The practice of "validation" of texts is to ensure that a page is correctly proofread. I note this because you are saving pages at a rate of five per minute, which is either remarkably fast or a misunderstanding of the expectation, although you may have taken more time in actually checking the transcription. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 12:21, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply