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Yann (talk) 16:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

djvu

I saw you edits to my edits on O'BRIEN, MURROUGH here is a list in alphabetical sort of the djvu pages I have edited.

I hope this is some help. When I first started importing DNB into Wikipedia I either did not see these pages or I did not understand how these volumes worked, so not all the DNB text I have used on Wikipedia has been placed in these pages. I'll go back through my sand boxes and see if there are any others and let you know if I modify any other pages. Regards PBS (talk) 12:12, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - I had your contributions to go on, but that saves time. I'll get through these at the rate of about one a day, since I'm currently working on various things in parallel. I had a few remarks I was going to pass on about style, but they are probably apparent in the diffs. The running head is to be put in by some method Billinghurst uses. I have switched over to {{sc| }} throughout, for small caps. Wikisource:WikiProject DNB/Style Manual explains about hyphenation and other matters that don't really warrant repeating.
I'm nearly done going through Wikisource:WikiProject DNB/Data capture, which is based on all WP pages showing {{DNB}} not filled in with a link over here to the article. If you ever want to add to that list, just do so, but please sign with five tildes so that we have a date for any new entries. (The page format right now is awkward for that, but disregard and place any updates somewhere.) I intend to chip away also at that list, to get everything DNB on WP referenced by some point in 2010. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
I noticed your edits and will make such edits in future as they say monkey sees monkey does ;-) But something I had not made clear above. If I edit a page now I am doing the whole page to a greater or lesser extent (something I did not used to do) so taking the example of 30.djvu/299 RICHARD KEBLE, there may well be short bios on the same page which are to a similar level of cleaning as the article I am interested in. The dates (as you highlighted to me at Wikipedia) may have more mistakes because I don't know what they should be for people outside my area of knowlege. -- PBS (talk) 18:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I assume that if the text is advanced to status yellow that's the whole page done. There are actually a few more people on the project than a couple of months ago. If I run out of things to do, which is not so likely, I can forage around by looking over the shoulders of other participants. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I've improved these pages:

If you have time please could you have a look at them and see if by the additional edits if I have included the additional changes you suggested. (I'll know by any additional edits that you make). Thanking you in anticipation --PBS (talk) 11:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

The only obvious thing was the issue described in Wikisource:WikiProject DNB/Raw materials#Way of working, hard line breaks showing up in the small-type references section (first of those). (And there the diffs don't show what is going on.) I have put a space in a [q. v.] in the second, because I prefer it, but there is no point pretending that the original had a constant spacing in its qv's, because it didn't. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

More

Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 02.djvu/222 Vol II page 210 ASTON JOHN 20:38, 15 December 2009
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 02.djvu/223 Vol II page 211 ASTON JOSEPH & RICHARD 22:19, 15 December 2009
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 02.djvu/224 Vol II page 212 ASTON THOMAS 22:41, 15 December 2009
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 02.djvu/225 Vol II page 213 ASTON WILLIAMS WALTER 00:36, 16 December 2009
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 04.djvu/146 Vol IV page 142 BELASYSE, JOHN & THOMAS 08:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 27.djvu/125 Vol XVII page 111 HOLBORNE, ROBERT
& HOLBROOK, ANN CATHERINE		 12:24, 10 March 2010
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 58.djvu/291 Vol LVII, page 282 VERNON, THOMAS 02:30, 15 March 2010
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 28.djvu/259 Vol XXVII p. 256 Antony Hungerford Revision as of 03:19, 7 April 2010
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 18.djvu/179 Vol XVIII p. 173 FANE, Sir FRANCIS (d. 1689?) 02:31, 19 July 2010
Page:Dictionary of National Biography volume 18.djvu/180 Vol XVIII p. 174 FANE, Sir FRANCIS (d. 1689?) 02:50, 19 July 2010

Simla Accord (1914)

There is some problems with the interwiki in the article, but I can't find why, it links to spanich interwiki. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 20:40, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, and good idea. I will look for the french version of the text and add it to fr.wikisource. I have a printed version of it. Usually, I first use the automatic translation from english and correct it (proof reading process, a little long). May be I could scan the text, and transform it into word using some software, it could be easier. --Rédacteur Tibet (talk) 20:56, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

second look

Hi Phillip, nice to see you active here. I'll have a look in a minute, just got two things on at once. Cygnis insignis (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Very wise. DjVu is very good when all is well, but using the jpeg is occasionally necessary. If there is something you especially want, and the scan is rubbish, put a request on the same project talk page. Cygnis insignis (talk) 02:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm doing the earls right? ... not the place Cygnis insignis (talk) 02:46, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure we have it right now, if it is the Earls you wanted. Do you know what to do next? Cygnis insignis (talk) 02:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Most of the work I have done here is adding treaties (see for example Final Act of the Congress of Vienna). But I have done some work on the DNB which is a similar project to this one. What is done there and is starting to be done here can be seen with this example: of 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Philodemus see this diff and Page:EB1911 - Volume 21.djvu/436

So I edited the two pages and added the section headings:

Then I created two articles using the content of 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Philodemus as a template:

Then I added links to the two pages in 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Vol 28 VETCH to ZYMOTIC DISEASES diffs

However, I have no idea if what I have done is correct as it is a case of monkey see monkey does. -- PBS (talk) 11:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I have also been to the article w:Synods of Westminster and added citations to this Wikisource article. --PBS (talk) 11:46, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

It all seems in order. Copying other examples is the best way to add to works, until you find a reason to do otherwise. My redlink stands out like a sore thumb, I wouldn't object if you removed it; linking the references is a bit optimistic at this stage, but one day :-) Making the 'clean text' available is inherently useful, what you did with it next is very impressive. You also made it easier for others to build on that contribution. I often find articles there that are built up from Brittanica and DNB, and I can add to that with the source I'm working on. Cheers, Cygnis insignis (talk) 17:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Spaces in DNB titles

Actually the convention is "no space after d. or fl." If there are few examples around with spaces, they are from a time when the conventions were less worked out. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

wrappers around pages

Hi,

I removed this div : [1] You should not wrap pages in a container ; the same result is achieved by dynamic layouts (in the display options). ThomasV (talk) 06:07, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

EB1911 article titles

The style in EB1911 is to disambiguate titles using parens, for example "Everett (Washington)" rather than "Everett, Washington" as you are doing. Thanks for your contributions. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 17:21, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:EB1911 edits

I reverted the last edit of your series at {{EB1911}}. It didn't seem essential to what you were doing, and it disabled access to the section parameter of {{header}} which I needed for an edit to clarify the documentation page for {{EB1911}}. Having a volume parameter is an improvement, though it took me awhile to appreciate what you were doing. I have made more comments at the talk page for {{EB1911}}, and I added an example of the use of the volume parameter to the doc. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 22:12, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

DNB01 template work

Thanks for your help with this aspect of the project. Your template work to date appears to be heading in the correct direction. The 1911 header discussion helped provide insights. While you continue your efforts on this template, I will go back to 18 October of last year in the DNB00 template, as that template was the first one that included all of the desired parameters currently available. I'll leave comments on Template talk:DNB01 as I head along the path just described. Good luck...and again thanks...JamAKiska (talk) 18:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Here is an example of the disambiguation page to which I referred earlier. JamAKiska (talk) 18:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at latest comments on "Template talk," suspect we are close on this one... JamAKiska (talk) 13:34, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

{{sdelete}}

and if you wish you can do something like {{sdelete|Author's request}} — billinghurst sDrewth 11:53, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Index pages for EB1911 available

Good Morning! I noticed you have been adding pages to the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica WikiProject, and I was wondering if you knew that there were page scans (Indexes) available for the 29-Volume set. I left some suggestions/instructions on another User's Talk page on this same topic, and I hope they can be helpful for you as well. Thanks! Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:35, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Template:EB1911/sandbox = <facepalm>

What are your thoughts to building the header for EB1911 a new, and let us get rid of the gumph, and get the damn thing into the 2010s? Trying to beat my way through that series of switch and other bits is a nightmare. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:55, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

EB1911 volume info

Hi. These pages (and maybe more of the same kind) appear not have volume info. Maybe you should think a way of coding the template so that they are not categorised as "without volume" (maybe with parameter "volume = NA" or something like that:

Bye--Mpaa (talk) 12:02, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

See Wikisource talk:WikiProject 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica -- PBS (talk) 13:25, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
They either appeared in volumes or they didn't.
  • If they didn't and they are our constructs, then maybe they belong in portal namespace.
  • If they did, then they belong with each volume, or they are just reproduced in the introductory section, then we reproduce one, and make it volume nude in the main ns, and work out what we want to for the page ns.
Basically this is the area of braveness where we probably make the considered decision to deviate from the published work as the 'rule' was not designed for EB1911. We should be rule-guided, not rule-bound. Also examples are what has been done for DNB and its subparts.— billinghurst sDrewth 13:29, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Your DMM changes

Would you please have the grace to discuss these changes with me either on the DMM project page or on my talk page before making changes to the way I have carefully structured the work? There are also good reasons for the enWP links in a few articles. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:36, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

EB1911 errata lists

Where are the errata lists for EB1911? The list of contributors found at the end vol. 29 has (according to my count) 1501 contributors. Several entries are wrong. DAVIS, REV. JAMES, M.A. should be DAVIES, REV. JAMES, M.A. Also, WENTWORTH-SHIELDS, FRANCIS EDWARD should be either WENTWORTH-SHIELDS, FRANCIS ERNEST or WENTWORTH-SHEILDS, FRANCIS ERNEST. Suslindisambiguator (talk) 12:58, 4 February 2016‎ (UTC)

EB1911 title field

yeah, Wikid77 is confused. nobody can be bothered to do the backlog, and why remind everybody with red text. could have had this done a year ago, but hey, i’ve got others tasks to do, now that beetstra is reverting wstitle for title. it’s the same old rename the warning template, rather than fix the problem. sorry i can’t be more sympathetic. Slowking4♡₮₳₤₭ 23:14, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

EB1911 formatting

There's little point in making edits like this one. All the content should be transcluded from the source files anyway, so the text currently in the articles is temporary, and will go away. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:23, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

meh, mostly harmless, and don’t need to go to history to see who edited. adding a pages transclusion is about as hard with VE though. there are many roads to the destination. Slowking4 ‽ RAN's revenge 19:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

You can use the already-proofed text from Gutenberg

Hi PBS - firstly, nice work in proofing EB1911 (and in Wikipedia, reducing the number of links to the now-dead www.1911encyclopedia.org site)

To help proofing work in EB1911 (at least in articles from "A" up to "Mecklenberg" ) you can use already-proofed text from Gutenberg, I've converted the text from there into Wiki-format available here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dssahqtjtqleml9/AACOO55819IOefkYIXafYyZva?dl=0 e.g. I edited a page you worked on recently https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:EB1911_-_Volume_17.djvu/473 using the converted text - it's faster and more accurate than I can proof! DivermanAU (talk) 13:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

edit - I hope you don't mind, I added the article Malacostraca, - the Wikipedia page had a link to the Wikisource article but it didn't previously exist. DivermanAU (talk) 21:16, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. DivermanAU perphapse you can write it up and add it to the Wikisource:WikiProject 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica in a separate section directly after the section "Using transclusion". -- PBS (talk) 11:06, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi again - I replied back on my talk page, where I mentioned I copied up the slice including "Irrigation". As for the issue with using the script I wrote, maybe try using Notepad++ to save the HTML file (that's what I use, and I save in UTF8 format); then try the script again. I'm happy to upload any slices you're after if they're not in the Dropbox. I also run a macro in Notepad++ on the converted text to convert the HTML codes for Greek into literal Greek characters, and to add in article links (they are missing in most cases in the Gutenberg version). DivermanAU (talk) 08:01, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Just to clarify the steps I use to convert the Gutenberg - start with the Page Source of a Gutenberg slice e.g. the Irrigation article is in this slice: "view-source:http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39775/39775-h/39775-h.htm" (copy that whole string, or right-click on the slice you're viewing and select "View Page Source") then select all the text (Ctrl-A) and copy and paste it into Notepad++, saving it in UTF-8 format (e.g. Ireland-Isabey.txt). In the example above the file size was 1179 KB. Then run the script, I usually run the script with no parameters and paste the original filename into the dialog box, then wait about 20 secs or so for the "Wiki-Ireland-Isabey.txt" to finish.
I usually also edit the original to remove excess carriage returns - replace \r\n\r\n\r\n with \r\n\r\n (a few times) in Notepad++ with the Extended mode option in Replace. DivermanAU (talk) 20:49, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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