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Please help start a list of text that need to be proofread. Larger text are preferred because we hope to have a large group of people working on the text of the month. Here is a great place to start looking for text to be proofread.

List of suggested works not actioned[edit]


Links[edit]


Short works requiring validation[edit]

Have problematic pages
Translations, not eligible for simple listing

New works of less than 30 pages to be added to QUEUED

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A list of potential PotM candidates[edit]

On the transcription project, there is a good list of text that are ready to be proofread. That list is available here. This list continues to grow so it would be great if we could knock it down. --Mattwj2002 11:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

My person opinion, If people keep bringing in projects (and I have seen it) then they should do a good part of the editing. Some, whoever they are, bring in works for others to do and the work-load adds up. Too, if the texts are brought in and left for others, then others may not like the topic so the work load keeps building up. It would be nice to know [who] likes what to work on. *I* like history and specifically illustrated history* but not children’s books or poems. I have several more volumes to do and more I want to do after that. This way I work on what I brought in, or have another bring in because he/they like the same kind of work. --Maury (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Calendar 2018[edit]

List[edit]

Month Work Category Status
January Index:Language of the Eye.djvu
Index:The Milestones and the Old Post Road.djvu
Index:The Sclavonic Provinces of the Ottoman Empire.djvu
Index:Treatise on Cultivation of the Potato.djvu
Quirky Yes check.svg completed
February Index:Cyclopedia of Painting-Armstrong, George D (1908).djvu Fine arts Yes check.svg completed
March Index:Vindication Women's Rights (Wollstonecraft).djvu Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month / Woman author Yes check.svg completed
April Index:Modern poets and poetry of Spain.djvu Poetry / Drama Yes check.svg completed
May Index:A Motor-Flight Through France.djvu
Index:Siberia and the Exile System Vol 1.djvu
Geography (North Africa?) Yes check.svg completed
June Index:Lives of Poets-Laureate.djvu Biography Yes check.svg completed
July Index:Wuthering Heights and Agnes Grey (1st edition), Volume 1 (Wuthering Heights, Volume 1).djvu
Index:Wuthering Heights and Agnes Grey (1st edition), Volume 2 (Wuthering Heights, Volume 2).djvu
Fiction: Novel (Early 20th Century) Yes check.svg completed
August Index:The Sikhs (Gordon).djvu Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion Yes check.svg completed
September Index:Natural History, Reptiles.djvu
Index:Natural History, Fishes.djvu
Natural History Yes check.svg completed
October Index:Frankenstein, or the Modern Prometheus (Revised Edition, 1831).djvu
Index:Weird Tales volume 31 number 02.djvu
Fiction (SF/Fantastical/etc.) Yes check.svg completed
November Index:The War and the Future (Masefield, 1918).djvu
Index:Mr. Punch's history of the Great War, Graves, 1919.djvu
The end of the Great War Yes check.svg completed
December Index:Tales of Today.djvu
Index:In bad company and other stories.djvu
Fiction: Short story collections selected

December 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

  • Tales of To-day and Other Days, translated from the French (1891) (external scan)
    A collection of 10 short stories by 9 French authors, many of who have little or no representation on Wikisource at present. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
    • I’d prefer this to the latter (In bad company and other stories), as the latter has already been completed in large part. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:23, 23 October 2018 (UTC).
    • If there are no objections, I’ll upload the scan for this work, and we can begin on the 1st. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 18:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC).
Already uploaded. I will put into the templates at the right time. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Option B[edit]

Option C[edit]

For the second proofread of this month, if time there so likely is, I’d suggest the Gothic Stories (external scan); it is very short, under 100 pages. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:58, 10 December 2018 (UTC).

  • As Option A has been completed, and this option (Option C) is far shorter than the other option (Option B), I shall upload this file, if there is no objection. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:03, 14 December 2018 (UTC).

Calendar 2019[edit]

List[edit]

Month Work Category Status
January Quirky
February Fine arts
March Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month / Woman author
April Poetry / Drama
May Geography (North Africa?)
June Fiction: Novel
July Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion
August Biography
September Fiction (SF/Fantastical/etc.)
October Science/Technology
November Language
December Fiction: Short story collections

January 2019[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Support both of these —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:20, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

February 2019[edit]

March 2019[edit]

  • We really, really, REALLY need to find a scan of Ten Days in a Mad-House (1887) by Nellie Bly (aka Elizabeth Jane Cochrane). Our copy is incomplete, and I have not been able to locate a scan. This is a seminal work of journalism and human rights. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:37, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Open book nae 02.svg One of Ours by Willa Cather. A Pulitzer Prize winner that we do not have. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Felix Holt, (Commons file (multiple parts): Part 1, Part 2, Part 3), the only novel by George Eliot that we don't currently have; this year marks Eliot's 200th birthday. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
  • The Stanford renewals database shows no renewal for Arthur Waley’s translation of Murasaki Shikibu’s The Tale of Genji, originally published 1935 (external scan). The work may still, however, be under copyright; if it is so, please redact this comment. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 00:48, 9 November 2018 (UTC).
    Even if this is PD in the US (and I do not know whether it is), it will remain under copyright in the UK until 2036. Our UK proofreaders typically do not participate with items still under UK copyright, and we prefer to avoid selecting works for PotM that would disenfranchise participants. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

April 2019[edit]

May 2019[edit]

June 2019[edit]

July 2019[edit]

August 2019[edit]

  • Scans of the 1794 edition of The Lives of the Most Eminent English Poets are now online (Vols. 1, 2, 3, 4). All include fairly high quality embedded text from the original HathiTrust scans, although the use of the long-S form (ſ) periodically yields some inaccurate results, which will require careful human proofreading. Tarmstro99 18:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol support vote.svg SupportBeleg Tâl (talk) 20:10, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Biographia Hibernica: A Biographical Dictionary of the Worthies of Ireland (1821) is now online here, based upon newer HathiTrust scans that greatly improve upon the earlier versions and include high-quality embedded OCR (Vol. 1, Vol. 2). A few early entries from Vol. 1 may be ready for match-and-split. Tarmstro99 16:22, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

October 2019[edit]

Possibly An Elementary Treatise on Optics by Henry Coddington (external scan) GhostOrchid35 (talk) 02:12, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

November 2019[edit]

I have changed this year’s November proofreading to validation so that WS:PotM can validate all of the works that it has started in previous years. The works are: Index:Life of Octavia Hill as told in her letters.djvu (May 2012); Index:The European Concert in the Eastern Question.djvu (September 2012); Index:A Treasury of South African Poetry.djvu (April 2013); Index:The Botany of the Antarctic Voyage.djvu (June 2014); Index:Mount Seir, Sinai and Western Palestine.djvu (September 2014); Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu (March 2015); Index:Isvar Chandra Vidyasagar, a story of his life and work.djvu (June 2016); Index:The Fauna of British India, including Ceylon and Burma (Birds Vol 1).djvu (July 2016); Index:The Mythology of the Aryan Nations.djvu (August 2016); Index:Plutarch - Moralia, translator Holland, 1911.djvu (September 2016); Index:Savage Island.djvu (May 2017); Index:The Boy Travellers in the Russian Empire.djvu (May 2017); Index:The Story of Nell Gwyn.djvu (June 2017); Index:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892).djvu (September 2017); Index:Vindication Women's Rights (Wollstonecraft).djvu (March 2018); Index:Modern poets and poetry of Spain.djvu (April 2018); Index:Siberia and the Exile System Vol 1.djvu (May 2018); and Index:The Sikhs (Gordon).djvu (August 2018). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:27, 13 October 2018 (UTC).

We used to do that every November, but declining participation led us to switch to a topic for November instead of validation. See the previous discussion on this issue below, wherein we concluded that Validation is no longer popular for PotM, since the last time we did it we validated no works that month. I have therefore changed it back on the basis of the prior community discussion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
    • I changed the topic for precisely that reason: the previous disinterest, or whatsoever caused the numerous works above to not become validated, would be greatly aided by a dedicated effort to cause those indeces to be so validated. This would forgo the need to create another index for proofreading and validation, as is the usual. The discussion has not been concluded, and your personal opinion on the matter should not influence the community’s decision; as the sole contributor to that discussion that was in favour of the alteration was you. The results of previous validation months are irrelevant, as this one is specifically dedicated to finishing works already selected for WS:PotM. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
      You misunderstand. The community discussed this issue and came to a consensus. Please do not unilaterally seek to override community consensus, but seek to change the community's opinion first. You have misinterpreted the discussion if you came away thinking that I was the sole contributor in favour of the alteration, or indeed that I was even in favour of the change. I neither proposed nor supported the change; in fact I made some suggestions concerning possible retention of the Validation month. Please re-read the discussion and re-open if you like, but changing the calendar against consensus is inappropriate.
    • The current 2019 Calendar was proposed by Beeswaxcandle, and BD2412 proposed changes for 2019 back in 2018. BD2412 and I agreed with Beeswaxcandle that the prior Validation month pattern was not successful and discussed the possibility of a separate Validation of the Month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
      • I have yet to note where the community has so come to this consensus of which you speak. The discussion has not been closed; therefore, no consensus can be derived from the discussion that it contains. I have started a discussion here as an effort to inform the community of this problem and to propose the use of a previously-implemented activity as a solution to that problem. I would also like for you to not revert my comments on this discussion, so as the community may be so informed of my proposal. If you wish to create a larger discussion on the matter, you may do so wherever you believe that such a discussion would be appropriate. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
        Wikisource does not formally close discussions in most of its pages; Featured texts, Deletions & Copyright issues are the only three fora where discussions are formally closed. Discussions that have sat idle for more than a year without comment and in which all participants were agreed are assumed to be resolved. If you would like to enact a change different from what Beeswaxcandle has proposed (and which I agree with), then you should wait for further responses before enacting changes. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
        • The discussion hasn’t had a comment in approximately three months, and not all of the participants came to an agreement. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
          Three months, yes, sorry. But the question raised was "Do we want to restore Validation month?" and no one spoke in favor of doing so. The discussion instead turned to have a separate Validation project distinct from PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
          • One month of inactivity is sufficient. SpBot archives discussions that have been inactive for one month on the forums where it is active. In the discussion below, there was no disagreement to retire validation month, and no disagreement to implement a monthly validation, over the period of a month, so we can consider consensus to have been established. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:42, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
            • I continue to agree that a separate "Validation of the Month" would be more fruitful. BD2412 T 23:23, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Books parked for consideration[edit]

Noting the list at the top of the page too
  • Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeny. In an effort to find some popular public domain publications for inclusion here at WS, I found that the HTML version of this book is the most-downloaded text at the Internet Archive. Plus, someone has already gone to the trouble of extracting and cleaning the images [1]. There is a tiny amount of text cut off on pages 63-64, but the missing letters can be determined from context and from the Archive.org HTML version --Eliyak T·C 22:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Pros:
(a) It's a key work of a great English writer;
(b) Johnson's text will be fun to read;
(c) It will add biographies of several writers.
Cons:
(a) It's in multiple volumes, so we might have to start with just the first one and see what transpires;
(b) There will be many uses of long-s and the like;
(c) We may not be able to get a first edition to work from, and I'm not sure that I could find a complete set of a single edition in IA.

Would a work of this sort ever be a good selection for PotM, and why or why not? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

  • EncycloPetey, et al, we could take one or more per month not as PoM but as something yet to be finished every month starting with the easiest and shortest texts that are not complicated to work on. For that we should have a different kind of an award, perhaps the only the image of "The Thinker" to be used. I like collecting the awards, it shows achievements as well as the dates show the years we are here working and the icon shows our work - again using only something like "The Thinker. It separates everything from PoM. It is an obvious aside from PoM. Poms are often slow anyhow so that gives us time and the PoM’s often also, well…..I dislike this word but to convey the idea, often SUCK and are boring chosen by a few, so I typically, these days, only do one or a few pages in them. I am working on 9 thick and illustrated volumes of Cassell’s Illustrated London but I would step aside and do pages on "The Thinker" (or any other icon but the same icon to stand out, each time so as not to get it mixed up with PoM. and I would expect an award for working on those extra "abandoned books" books. Something along these lines of thought. Feel free to modify. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
EncycloPetey, I think the idea of finishing "abandoned books" is a very good idea. I am working on two of them now. If we all did this together we could finish them up quick and add them to our library here. THESE should be "Proofreads of the Month" instead of finding more before we have finished these sitting here.. —Maury (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Maybe creating some sort of WikiProject regarding these abandoned or unfinished texts might be a way to get more attention to them? That project could then be listed as the existing community collaboration. Having said that, I think it might be a good idea. John Carter (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
John Carter (have you met any Terminators yet?) I figure the "abandoned books" have to have an attraction and many people like earning awards - especially "Special Awards", ["build it and they will come";] use that and they will come. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I think you meant John Connor there. :) Having said that, is there any sort of page indicating the "progress bar" or similar out on the various indexes which have been started to date? Also, maybe, having something on the community portal listing the number of completed indexes might help too. And, of course, like you said, some sort of "award" or w: Wikipedia:Barnstar available for such might be useful. Do we have any such yet here? John Carter (talk) 18:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
@John Carter:(gone to Mars yet?) I think this is a great idea. I'd participate even without a reward. Is it started yet(speaking of John Carter, are the books on him on wikisource)? JustinCB (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I think those in the public domain are but not all are PD yet. So far as I know though the bot generating progress bars doesn't exist yet. I hope those were the answers you sought.John Carter (talk) 00:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Author:John Lloyd Stephens (listed on en WS)[edit]

Author:John Lloyd Stephens wrote several grand books and they are illustrated. Let us choose something a bit more exciting lest we have an *another* unfinished work. —Maury (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

The Tale of Old Mortality[edit]

We don't have Walter Scott's The Tale of Old Mortality, which shocked me. Actually, we have very few works by him at all, despite his stature as an English writer, but The Tale of Old Mortality (or simply Old Mortality) is considered one of his best novels, and is a pretty high-profile English novel for us to be missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, what is the url for the version you have found? I wish to look at it. —Maury (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, to clarify first off (if you didn't know), Old Mortality is one in a series of loosely associated novels collected under the title Tales of My Landlord, though each is an independent story and novel. Of the first four volumes that make up "series 1", volumes 2 through 4 are Old Mortality (volume 1 is a separate story entitled The Black Dwarf). So, here then are the first edition (1816) volumes: Vol. II, Vol. III, Vol. IV. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposal of Proofreading Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal Series in 2019[edit]

Currently, I'm not enrolled in the Proofread of the Month project, but I noticed the Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal series is currently not even proofread, and it consists of a large number of pages to work on. I've proofread some of the content, but I think this should be done with others. (Link of Volume 29 of the series, which I currently am working on) Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:20, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment That's a lot to do in a single month, and with complicated formatting. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @EncycloPetey I know, but I think we can do some volumes first (like Volume 1 or 29). Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Even single volumes have complicated tables and lots of diacriticals. Works such as those usually do not attract as much participation, and remain incomplete at the end of the month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
The lack of an text layer in the file is of concern and rules out a PotM collaboration for the time being. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:42, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: I'm now enrolled in the project now, so feel free to contact me. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to revise monthly categories for October and November[edit]

I propose that beginning next year (2019), we revise the monthly categories by eliminating "The end of the Great War" (which was topical when we were approaching the 100th anniversary of WWI, but will no longer be topical in 2019), and replace it by moving "Natural History" from October to November, and making October another fiction category, but with a focus on the fantastic (fantasy, horror, science fiction, and the supernatural). My initial thinking was to make October something more of a Halloween theme, but I realize that Halloween is not universally observed, nor is it observed the same way everywhere. Nevertheless, these themes are broadly associated with October, and I think this would be a good new tradition. I would propose starting with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, as proposed for a different month above. BD2412 T 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Up until this year November has been designated as Validation Month—a month in which to catch up on validating several works. However, last year we completed no works, so as a one-off I went for the Great War. I've been trying to keep a broad range of domains covered in PotM and have hence kept fiction to only a couple of months each year. However, if people feel that we can sustain a third one and not have other domains lose out, then by all means we can put the fantastic into October in addition to the other two. We also need to decide if we want to restore Validation Month in 2019. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that the change was that recent. I would think that December would be a better validation month, since it is the end of the year, and seems like a time for cleaning up after ourselves. BD2412 T 01:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
We might consider separating the Validation Drive from the PotM, and having its section on the Main Page year-round. Pick and list three works separately from the PotM (maybe listed below), and rotating a new work in once one is finished. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:59, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Validation of the Month? BD2412 T 18:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
I prefer the idea of having three current titles to a single one set to rotate on a monthly basis. That way it's less formal and people have options to select from. Validation can happen at any pace, but stating that one work is "for the month" restricts what we validate. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:09, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
That is reasonable. A "validation month" is always less fun than starting a new work from the ground up. BD2412 T 03:25, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment On a related issue, I suggest broadening "natural history" to "science / natural history". --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
    • I would support that change also. BD2412 T 01:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Validation of the Month logistics[edit]

Per the discussions above, there is consensus to have a Validation of the Month instead of using November's PotM for validation. I've accordingly started Wikisource:Validation of the Month and I encourage the community's input regarding the logistics of the change. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

My only concern: Of course, every stage of the proofreading process should be performed with care, and not casually. But particularly so during the validation stage. It should not be treated, imo, merely as a second proofread, but with a meticulous eye focused on the minute details as well as on the work as a whole—particularly when it comes to formatting consistency throughout an entire text. This is more difficult to achieve with "drive-by" validation (which a VotM, or even validation month can unwittingly encourage). Not sure how this can be addressed necessarily. Just thinking out loud. Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:07, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
P.S. It concerns me as well when I see almost-immediate validation of pages during the course of a PotM, knowing that having multiple contributors will likely lead to multiple formatting practices (even if/when guidelines are listed on an Index:Talk page). One sees green, and one assumes done... but perhaps not done with a high (consistent/holistic) standard. Londonjackbooks (talk) 19:26, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
This can be one reason to establish a separate Validation group, who can support each other and train newer arrivals in Validation practices. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
We also need to be sure that works proposed for validation are ready for validation. Not every work that goes through POTM has had every page created, even. BD2412 T 04:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
VotM would not have to be limited to works from PotM. Other proofread works requiring Validation could be selected. --EncycloPetey (talk) 12:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Just picking up on the thought in the previous section on putting up a few works that require validation and rotating those as required. This would be my preference rather than putting up a single work. For the mainpage, we would need to maintain a template within the VotM space and then transclude it. Some possible wording as a starter: "These texts need another pair of eyes to check they have been proofread correctly. See How to Validate."

We have an ever-growing list of works that people believe are ready for Validation at Wikisource:Proofread of the Month/validation works#Queued to be validated. When updating the list of four works that are on WS:PotM I've been selecting from this list and trying to cover a range of domains at the same time so that validators might have something of interest to them. The other source of works ready for Validation is. The caution with both of these sources is that they haven't been checked that they really are ready for Validation. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:20, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

We could use that as a starting point... I've created Template:VotM using that directly for now. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 01:48, 7 November 2018 (UTC)