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Please help start a list of text that need to be proofread. Larger text are preferred because we hope to have a large group of people working on the text of the month. Here is a great place to start looking for text to be proofread.

List of suggested works not actioned[edit]


Little works requiring validation[edit]

Translations, not eligible for simple listing

New works of less than 30 pages to be added to QUEUED


it:Wikisource:Rilettura del mese/Testi brevi

A list of potential PotM candidates[edit]

On the transcription project, there is a good list of text that are ready to be proofread. That list is available here. This list continues to grow so it would be great if we could knock it down. --Mattwj2002 11:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Calendar 2015[edit]


Month Work Category Status
January Index:Life Story of an Otter.djvu
Index:The Tales of a Traveller.djvu
Index:The Under-Ground Railroad.djvu
Quirky Yes check.svg completed
February Index:Kopal-Kundala.djvu
Index:A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (Huebsch 1916).djvu
Fiction Yes check.svg completed
March Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu Historic events Yes check.svg completed
April Index:Queen Mab (Shelley).djvu
Index:Ancient Ballads and Legends of Hindustan.djvu
Poetry Yes check.svg completed
May Index:Journal of a Voyage to Greenland, in the Year 1821.djvu
Index:Provincial geographies of India (Volume 4).djvu
Geography (little known area) Yes check.svg completed
June Index:Descent of Man 1875.djvu Natural History Yes check.svg completed
July Index:Zhuang Zi - translation Giles 1889.djvu
Index:The Aborigines of Victoria and Riverina.djvu
Index:Myth, Ritual, and Religion (Volume 1).djvu
Anthropology Yes check.svg completed
August Index:Parsons How to Know the Ferns 7th ed.djvu Female author Yes check.svg completed
September Index:My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus (1908).djvu
Index:Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted, 2002.djvu
WS:RT Yes check.svg completed
October Index:Moll Flanders (1906 edition).djvu Fiction Yes check.svg completed
November Validation month Working on finishing proofread works List of works

January 2015[edit]

Starting a list of possibles Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:27, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

I'd favor The Museum, as I seldom see works on this topic anywhere. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
I'd favor The Life story of an Otter -- WeeJeeVee (talk) 15:45, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Let's start with the Otter and then move to The Museum. I'm reasonably confident we can get both done. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
LOL. At the rate we're starting off, Life Story of an Otter will be completed in just three days. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Is there a central page that makes it easy to tell who has worked on the source? WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
In the tools section on the left side of the page there is a link "related changes". Click that when you're on the Index and you'll see the last 50 edits. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Some candidates (for validation)
Index:Kirby Muxloe Castle near Leicester (1917).djvu (for validation)
Index:St. Botolph's Priory, Colchester (1917).djvu (for validation)

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

And one for proofread -

Index:Shore Line Electric Railway Predecessor Companies 1961.pdf

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:27, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

In most months we're looking for new works to add rather than validate. The Shore Line Railway won't work because it's a pdf. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:12, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
But I added a text layer back in December precisely so it could be a PoTM if needed, Fair enough though.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:04, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
The PotM templates assume djvu extensions. As we can always get an OCR'd djvu file by conversion, I think that this is a reasonable requirement. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
The source listed for "The Museum" notes - "Possible copyright status: The publication, and the images and texts within it, may be protected by copyright; use of such materials beyond fair use or other exceptions provided under applicable copyright law may violate the copyright laws of the United States and/or the laws of other countries. Permission from the appropriate copyright holder is required to publish or reproduce." Although I'm not sure why.. Best to consider an alternative until the status question is resolved by IA. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
This is standard text for the digitising source library and puts the onus on the downloader to ensure legality before use. However, it was published in 1917 in New York, so meets the pre-1923 requirement for PD-old. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Further possibilities, to follow after the current options:

--EncycloPetey (talk) 21:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

    • I'd rather do the "Child Life", but I may be in the minority. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
The Bayonet Exercises work, needs a front sheet removing, otherwise I'd have already started on it 23:04, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Index:Child-life in Japan and Japanese child stories (Ayrton, Matilida Chaplin. , 1901).djvu, and I've already made a start on this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Index:The museum, (Jackson, Marget Talbot, 1917).djvuShakespeareFan00 (talk) 00:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Child-life & The Museum are now already proofread, so will put them aside in the meantime. I've a couple of other works in the pipeline, that I'll post as they're needed. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:16, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Other works if experiences contributors are interested (call it PoTM (Advanced level)[edit]

Index:The Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, Volume I.pdf - PDF- Needs OCR Cleanup and math experience.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk)

February 2015[edit]

As it is the month for fiction, I would like to propose the following list of translated Bengali works:

  1. Nil Durpan (socio-political drama)
  2. The Poison Tree (social novel)
  3. Durgesa Nandini (historical romance novel)

Hrishikes (talk) 03:09, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

These are already proofread and just need validation. Usually we're looking for a work to take from un-proofread through to completed. However, let's see what others think. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
In that case, let me propose Srikanta (Part 1); it does not have any complicated formatting, is easy to work with, and is also an interesting read. Alternative: Kapalkundala. If you require a work in a still earlier stage, i.e., not yet added here, then proposed: The King of the Dark Chamber(1, 2, 3) by Tagore, which has a Gutenberg version, so, easy to proofread. Hrishikes (talk) 09:52, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't really want to do works that have already been proofread. I think those need to wait until next November or be used in a "validation swap" with another user. I think doing plays would be difficult for a PotM because every page would need formatting for the change in character and stage directions (which is a lot to ask for new-coming proofreaders). I would support the idea of Srikanta. Are there other parts of that work that haven't been uploaded, or at least other novels that we could use? We'd go through that work in about 5 days.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 14:08, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Srikanta is a four-part novel; the first part is most famous, PD translations of the other 3 parts I could not find. Non-PD complete translation has been published by Penguin (1, 2, 3), but that's not for here. Secondly, this may not take much time, but this is easy, therefore ideal for PotM. For the time factor, I added an alternative, Kapalkundala. More works can be proposed by others, I think, if there's more time, after finishing these two, if agreed upon. Lastly, about your newbie theory. I am also new here, joined only a few months ago, and my first work here was a play (Nil Durpan). Hrishikes (talk) 14:53, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
Addendum: Proofreading completed for Kapalkundala. So nomination changed to Index:Kopal-Kundala.djvu. Therefore, as discussed above, current nominations from me are: 1. Srikanta Part 1 (info:w:Iti Srikanta), 2. Kopal-Kundala (info: w:Kapalkundala and w:Kapalkundala (1933 film)), 3. Index:The King of the Dark Chamber.djvu (info: w:Raja (play)). Hrishikes (talk) 15:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
As I've said elsewhere, it's a problem that these files do not include a text layer. We're now experiencing technical problems with the OCR button that's supposed to appear in the edit window. If we can't get that fixed, then without a text layer, these files will not be good choices for PotM. We were lucky that someone created OCR pages for Kopal-Kundala before the OCR went buggy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:50, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I've noticed that we have no complete, sourced works by James Joyce. There are two transcription projects underway that could be used for part of this month, though I wouldn't put either at the top of the list for PotM—they're more filler for the end of the month as needed, as both have been started:

--EncycloPetey (talk) 21:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

March 2015[edit]

There is no category in this month, so lets take Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu WeeJeeVee (talk) 15:40, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg selected If it goes well, we could look at locating volume 2 and doing that too. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Additionally proposed, if there is time:

#Index:Calcutta, Past and Present.djvu already done

  1. Index:Asoka - the Buddhist Emperor of India.djvu (series starter)
  2. Index:Proceedings of the Royal Society of London Vol 1.djvu (series starter)

Hrishikes (talk) 02:18, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

  • The first option has a flawed source file, so it isn't viable at this time. The third option would be too complicated for a PotM. Ideally, we want a selection simple enough that even newcomers could participate Formatting an academic journal volume is not likely to be a good choice. The last time we tried a highly technical volume we didn't come close to finishing it. The second selection is less than ideal in that it contains many transcriptions of Sanskrit words, which require careful attention to (and typing of) diacriticals unfamiliar to most English speakers outside of India. It might still be workable, but it will liekly be frustrating to many editors and will require an additional proofread by someone properly versed in recognizing which dots, dashes, and other little marks are missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:37, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • addendum: The second and third options appear to be missing their text layer, so we wouldn't use them for PotM. All selections should have a text layer that shows up in the edit window. Without this, we would have many additional problems, especially in light of the aforementioned Sanskrit transcriptions. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Index:Calcutta, Past and Present.djvu was patched, and I re-checked the page list. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:05, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

April 2015[edit]

  • Shelley's Queen Mab has been nominated before. This work may be ambitious for a PotM, but I thought I'd point out this early edition (1821) that pledged faithfulness to the original, while translating some of the Greek and French found in the notes. There is also this London edition from the same year. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:54, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Selected the London edition as the apparatus appears more complete (including original texts and translations). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
I started on this version from The complete poetical works of Percy Bysshe Shelley, "Queen Mab", but feel free to start again from another source. - DutchTreat (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
We're close to finishing Queen Mab, so will need a second work. Sheaf doesn't have a text layer, so isn't a possibility. As a result we'll go with the Hindustan ballads. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Great, I'm all for it! BD2412 T 19:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
OCR text added to Sheaf. Hrishikes (talk) 07:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

May 2015[edit]

Yes check.svg selected as the first work. I'm not sure what the big issue about the watermarks is, so am ignoring this bit. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
They've been removed, so it's no longer an issue. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
Support. For our first selection, proofreading is complete. We need a new pick! --Siddhant (talk) 00:00, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes, this can be next, but the first work needs finishing off. I know there's a problem with a couple of the plates, but there's still other pages that can be fixed. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:06, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Prefer either the Greenland or Burma works mentioned above, based on the fact that to my eyes they deal with proportionally poorly covered areas in wikipedia, might be most easily used to improve that content, and our being able to show that our work can improve their content might be the best way to get new editors involved here. John Carter (talk) 18:51, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Can we take some text on Nepal? By the way, how do I search for books needing proofreading sorted by Geography? --Siddhant (talk) 04:38, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
We did Picturesque Nepal as a PotM a couple of years back. Try the various portals listed at this category as a jumping off point. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:42, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Ah, ok. And here it is, for people looking for texts by Country: Portal:Texts by Country. --Siddhant (talk) 19:07, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

June 2015[edit]

  • How to Know the Ferns (1899), by Frances Theodora Parsons. A classic book with some nice illustrations, and one of the first popular fern manuals published for North America (if not actually the first). At only 262 pages, this book might not last the whole month. If we choose it, then we should have another ready. It's really a shame we don't yet have any works by this author. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:16, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
  • The North American sylva (1859), by François André Michaux. Contains many beautiful Illustrated, plates, most in color. 180 pages (260 imagecount pages) --Rochefoucauld (talk) 02:31, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
    At around 700 pages of botanical text, that might be too ambitious for PotM. What you've linked is only Volume III. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:38, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
Didn't notice that...never mined than. --Rochefoucauld (talk) 03:37, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
But vol. 1 is here: at It has beautiful plates, indeed! Very good idea. Dick Bos (talk) 10:51, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Another proposal: Index:Life Movements in Plants Vol 2.djvu. It is a classic of botany and biophysics, part of a body of works which proved that plants were living creatures because of having movements of life. Vol II has a Gutenberg version mentioned on the author page, which should make it easy to proofread. Hrishikes (talk) 09:56, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
  • My proposal: Index:The Gall Wasp Genus Cynips.pdf by Alfred Kinsey, a great and voluminous study of gall wasps. I started it last year and had it done for nearly a half, but it was the easier half, consisting mostly of text. The remaining half contains many tables and images, so there's a lot of hard work to do. Nonexyst (talk) 21:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Proposal: Does Index:Descent of Man 1875.djvu by Charles Darwin fall under natural history? This is a very popular and important work. It seems to be halfway done. --Siddhant (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
    • I support Descent of Man based on its inestimable importance. BD2412 T 15:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Support Descent of Man. Moondyne (talk) 04:11, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, but it's really (biological) anthropology rather than natural history. That said, it is a key work and needs to be completed. If we select this for June then we should have a different topic for July. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:24, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Um, on second thoughts, there are many good online sources for this text. Do we really want to do this? What do you think? --Siddhant (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
My personal thinking on that issue in general is that we can't count on other online sources to continue to exist, or to continue to be available for free. Just look at Google News; one day it had extensive publicly available archives, the next day they were gone, replaced by pay services. BD2412 T 02:32, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok, makes sense. But can't we at least use the text someone has already produced? Why proofread all over again? --Siddhant (talk) 03:02, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
And where's the fun inthat? :) Moondyne (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Looks like it's already been digitized electronically, you can grab the epub here. Although i'm very confused on the footnotes, poorly done. --Rochefoucauld (talk) 00:53, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

July 2015[edit]

  • Not sure whether this fits, but how about: Zhuang Zi, an ancient Chinese text that is one of the two foundational works of Taoism. The Giles translation is our only copy and it has not been proofread. The work consists of short stories, allegories, and anecdotes, so it would be easy for a new editor to edit a whole "chapter" in a short time. There is also not much text per page, and the font is large and friendly. The only wrinkle is the presence of a few breves (e.g., ŭ) and macrons in some of the transliterated names. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
Is it a work on anthropology, as required for this month? Hrishikes (talk) 18:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, more or less it is. It is broadly "cultural anthropology," because most all of the so-called "social sciences" can be called that. I could certainly go with this, and, maybe, if it finishes early, maybe adding some other texts from volumes 39 and 40 of the Sacred Books of the East, or maybe just those two books themselves, John Carter (talk) 15:41, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Nothing to say about the category issue, but I'm glad to see this proposed here. I've read A. C. Graham's Chuang Tsu: the Inner Chapters which explains the significance of the book. Though traditionally ascribed to one author, it's actually a mess of different stories and wisdom from different philosophical schools. There's lots of reverence for Confucius and the Chinese Classics, but also irreverence and criticism and as EncycloPetey says it's a foundational book of Taoism along with the Lao Tse/Tao Te Ching. I'll help out with this whether it's PotM or not, but I'd be glad to see this prioritised by the community. MartinPoulter (talk) 13:29, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Selected Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I have added some more famous works: 1, 2, 3, 4. Hrishikes (talk) 08:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

August 2015[edit]

  • Out of Due Time (1906) by Josephine Ward (Mrs. Wilfrid Ward). Mrs. Ward "was a member of England's leading Roman Catholic family and wife of the Catholic author, Wilfrid Ward." The novel "reflects the impact of religious and theological controversy [and] the unfolding crisis of Roman Catholic Modernism." (Abstracts: Amer. Acad. of Religion Society of Biblical Literature 1992, p. 113.) Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:06, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
    Looks interesting, but why did you choose the odd capitalization for the work? --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:11, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
You mean "Out of Due Time" as opposed to "Out of due time"? Just titling habits... Lots of work with poems... Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:23, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

  • Since it wasn't selected earlier this year, I'll put this forward again, possibly as a second choice for the month: How to Know the Ferns (1899), by Frances Theodora Parsons. A classic book with some nice illustrations, and one of the first popular fern manuals published for North America (if not actually the first). At only 262 pages, this book might not last the whole month. It's really a shame we don't yet have any works by this author. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:15, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
    • I support Petey’s proposal for the second choice. Notable science related work from a female author. Solomon7968 (talk) 04:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
    • Sounds good to me. BD2412 T 13:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
      n.b. I'm especially fond of this book because the illustrator, Marion Satterlee, was also a woman. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:56, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
      Index:Parsons How to Know the Ferns 7th ed.djvu is set up now, but the page numbers after p.1 have not yet been adjusted to account for the illustration pages. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

September 2015[edit]

There's at least one page missing from the scan. Need to either find a replacement scan or choose something else. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:30, 13 August 2015 (UTC) seems to have the requisite pages — billinghurst sDrewth 06:52, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
What does that mean with respect to the pages already created? Do they get wiped out and replaced from scratch? BD2412 T 16:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
If they match the content and layout of the new Index file source, they can simply be moved to the correct new pagename. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
I hope they do, then. I put some time into those pages already! BD2412 T 21:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
That will need a little research.

We need to see whether it is the same edition or not. Primarily, and whether we (are going to|can) go to a straight migration, or we need to do some back end gruntwork. If it is that far advanced, it may be better to just continue with the work, and look to input the missing page(s) separately. Depending where the missing page is, and the alignment of the work, we may just be able to import over the top, and update the file details with the new details. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:07, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

It is a different edition. Current is printed 1905, this one is at least 1908. At least a couple of photos are different. So we have to come down to how much of purists that we wish to be. If we are only missing the one page, will a text insertion suffice? Does it take it out of the PotM space or not is a different question. It would take it away from Featured Text, but not necessarily PotM — billinghurst sDrewth 01:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
A disappointment, but we need to do what we need to do. BD2412 T 04:11, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
As far as I can see, this Google version here is the only 1895 copy available on the net for free download, so missing pages cannot be substituted. Apart from the missing page issue (which no one has specified), it is B&W and has a frontsheet, the latter making it liable for deletion at Commons at any time as per previous precedence.

On the other hand, the 1908 version has at least two online copies (IA and DLI), so missing pages from one can possibly be substituted from the other. The IA version is a color-scan (making for better image quality) and has additional components (appreciation by Hobson, intro by the author's widow etc.).

Therefore, the 1895 version should be left as is till repair is possible and the 1908 version should be taken up for POTM. This is an all-time classic of mountaineering by one of the great pioneers, so good for POTM as a quality work. Hrishikes (talk) 04:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

[following I had added to December but we have progressed Sep work well and it is still not half way through the month. Feel up to a harder effort of the RT list?]

(hesitantly) We would not normally do the slightly more complex or older works, but I would like to propose w:The Fable of the Bees: or, Private Vices, Public Benefits (maybe this 1724 3rd ed.). It is slightly political piece, already has an article at enWP and other wikis, but there is not really a browseable version available on the web. We have it referred to in existing works, and it does appear on WS:RT. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:31, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Hmm, long-s in a PotM doesn't usually work very well. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Does anyone have a good short work in mind that we could do for a second PTOM? BD2412 T 17:54, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Index:My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus.djvu. According to Index_talk:My_Climbs_in_the_Alps_and_Caucasus.djvu#Missing page 28? there is no page missing. If the first page is a problem, it can be easily replace with a placeholder.— Mpaa (talk) 20:49, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
My impression was that due to technical shortcomings with the 1895 version, the POTM for this month was switched over to Index:My Climbs in the Alps and Caucasus (1908).djvu, per User:Hrishikes above, which is almost done. I don't see the benefit to making a project of completing two versions of the same work in the same month (although I'm sure the 1895 version will come along in time). I would rather find an unrelated second work for the second half of the month. BD2412 T 21:14, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
If the same theme (mountaineering) is acceptable, may I suggest Index:Climbing on the Himalaya and Other Mountain Ranges.djvu? Hrishikes (talk) 00:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good to me - we'll call this mountaineering month. BD2412 T 01:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
However, the purpose of this month is to fulfil requests at WS:RT. Is there nothing else in the 100s of works on that page? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
The Fable of the Bees was requested above, but that was disputed. Even the Mount Everest book is looking a bit long now. Is there something in the range of 100-150 pages? BD2412 T 14:24, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
With only a few days left I've dropped in Index:Law Enforcement Officers Killed and Assaulted, 2002.djvu as a shorter work that has already been mostly proofread and needs polishing/validating. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:56, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

October 2015[edit]

Proposed: Index:Panchatantra.djvu. It is w:Panchatantra (certainly the most frequently translated literary product of India, per Wikipedia) of w:Vishnu Sharma (one of the most widely translated non-religious authors in history, per Wikipedia), translated by Arthur William Ryder (whose work as a translator is probably the finest ever accomplished by an American, per Wikipedia). 1925 copyright, not renewed as per Stanford search. Hrishikes (talk) 16:57, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm reluctant to do two works of Indian fiction in translation in the same year. We could look at doing this one next year. Instead I propose Hunger, which is a Norwegian novel by the 1920 Nobel prize winner Knut Hamsun Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
While I can understand that, I think that there is a bit of a difference between "Indian fiction," which I believe the first work clearly qualified as, and one of the most widely notable works in the history of writing, which, to an extent, the Panchatantra is. I wouldn't call Aesop's Fables an example of "Greek fiction," either. John Carter (talk) 15:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks John. There is another point. The language is different. The first one was Bengali, this one is Sanskrit. Wikisources are language-specific domains, so works from different languages should fall in different categories for consideration here, and not clubbed together based on a geographical area. Hrishikes (talk) 02:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
@Beeswaxcandle: I think the choice of Hunger is a good one. Sorry I missed it before. The Haz talk 23:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Propose: Moll Flanders, a novel by Daniel Defoe. There is a Librivox recording that could go with it. The Haz talk 01:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I also tend to agree that we should spread it around a bit geographically. BD2412 T 02:20, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Hazmat, do you have a suitable DjVu file that you've found? --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
@EncycloPetey: [1] or [2]. Sorry for the delay. Haz talk 04:16, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Coming up to needing a decision here. There are three works proposed for October:

  • Panchatantra (?300 BCE) by Vishnu Sharma tr. from Sanskrit
  • Hunger (1890) by Knut Hamsun tr. from Norwegian
  • Moll Flanders (1722) by Daniel Defoe

Each one has two supporters in the discussion above. Can we please have some further thoughts/discussion/votes? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:27, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

  • I think Hunger would be a fine choice. The fact that it is a bit more obscure might make it less likely to be highlighted otherwise. If recent experience is a guide, we will probably end up needing to work on a second POTM anyway, so let's go with Hunger first, and Moll Flanders as a backup. BD2412 T 12:14, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
    Moll Flanders has one point that causes me to favor it: This coming week is Banned Book Week, and Moll Flanders is a previously banned book. We might consider, starting next year, to select a significant work that has been banned for the monthly project. It might even serve to draw in additional editors if we were to advertize that fact. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
    That is undeniably a good point. In that case, I will support Moll Flanders for the first POTM, and Hunger for a second, even if we only get started on it. BD2412 T 02:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
    I favour Hunger only due it being Norwegian fiction, though would be comfortable with Moll Flanders (noting that fiction is not my favoured type of work), and I think that we can rack and stack, and if we only get half way through the second, that is still advancement. Happy with the suggestion of a banned book month, and it is probably appropriate for us to start the 2016 proposed subject list AND how we can leverage input and discussions from further afield. (We do need to be more on the front foot and more advertorial.) — billinghurst sDrewth 02:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • My impression is that neither of these is a particularly long work. BD2412 T 17:20, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • A quick point of concern here. The version of Moll Flanders that we are working on is actually two books in one - the first half is Moll Flanders, and the second half is The Life of Roxane (or Roxana: The Fortunate Mistress), a different work by Daniel Defoe.
Yep, and we'll transclude them to two different mainspace pages. One called Moll Flanders (1906) and the other The Fortunate Mistress. However, once the Moll Flanders section is completed (incl. validated) we'll switch the PotM template to Hunger. Roxana is a bonus if it gets done as well. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:45, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Those would be weird choices for transclusion locations, since they appear in a single volume, with an introduction and all the publication information there. Normally, we use something like Moll Flanders and Roxana/Moll Flanders and Moll Flanders and Roxana/Roxana for works included within a single volume. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Agree with EncycloPetey with them about being transcluded as subpages to give honesty to the edition, and just in case there are subsequent versions. The root should reflect the title page. Redirects from the root to respective versions. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:35, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
The Moll Flanders portion of the work is done, but we may as well press on and finish validating the Roxana portion before getting to the next POTM. BD2412 T 15:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Moll Flanders is done, but I'm not sure it makes sense to launch into another substantial work at this point of the month. Perhaps we could either find a small one or start the November validation drive early. Cheers! BD2412 T 15:41, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
    • I like the idea of starting November's work early. There doesn't appear to be a shortage of works for it.  ;-) WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:24, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm for starting early, too. I've got a nice list of works to validate already queued up.—Zhaladshar (Talk) 16:36, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I'm OK with it as well, as long as there is a mechanism for tracking and granting "credit" to those proofreaders who participate. The user page "awards" may be mere tokens, but they are one of the few incentives or bits of recognition we give out. Some users really do appreciate receiving them. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:59, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Works are visible as a group at> if there are works that should b3e on the list, then add {{sort|POTM November 2015}} to the Table of Contents. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

November 2015[edit]

December 2015[edit]

  • Proposed: Black's Law Dictionary (Second Edition). This is the last public domain version of this work, which continues to be the most widely used legal dictionary. Once completed, this work will serve as a cross-reference source for Wikipedia articles (demonstrating the historical meanings of the legal principles defined), and for Wikitionary entries. It is lengthy, and probably not doable by an editor working alone. Wiktionarians can be recruited to help. BD2412 T 18:31, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
Good choice for the reasons above. John Carter (talk) 16:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
While I agree that this is an important work, the great length and the quantity of technical text squeezed onto each page make this a poor choice for monthly collaboration. Especially so in December, which is usually a slower month for member activity in PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Not a good choice for PotM. The style complexities would make it difficult to keep consistent across multiple editors. Also works requiring complex LST don't work well on PotM. This would be better as a WikiProject where consistency of style and transclusion can be ensured. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
    Agree with BWC, and it isn't very Christmassy — billinghurst sDrewth
  • "The Chemistry of a Candle" looks interesting. We don't have much chemistry here, so it could make a good choice. I personally like "Life in motion, or, Muscle and nerve" as well, since we have little to nothing on medicine, human anatomy, biomechanics, or kinesiology. I saw only one page requiring advanced formatting, but there are a lot of images. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:43, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
    Images, I can do. ;-) BD2412 T 17:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Calendar 2016[edit]


Month Work Category Status
January Quirky
February Fiction
March Anthropology or Mythology / Religion
April Poetry
May Geography (little known area)
June Biography
July Natural History
August Female author
September WS:RT
October Fiction (banned)
November Validation month Working on finishing proofread works

January 2016[edit]

Because I am silly enough to think that having it as the featured text on Valentine's Day might be amusing, I nominate The Kiss and Its History by Kristoffer Nyrop at (External scan). The work is one of the few sources cited for the article on kissing in the recent Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible, which is evidently reason to think it is one of the better such works out there. John Carter (talk) 18:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

I like it, though we will need another as it is 210pp. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Only issue I can foresee—if it becomes nominated for FT—is that you will need to keep a tight rein on the formatting before (explicit formatting instructions on Index Talk page), during (making sure multiple editors are actually following the instructions) and after (perhaps a couple validation run-throughs) proofreading in order for it to be FT-worthy the following month. [Some formatting considerations: Wikilinking (rule of thumb: one internal link—per subject—per chapter—difficult to monitor with multiple editors); poetry (I recommend {{Block center}} with breaks and gaps—also introduce {{fqm}}); references (standard vice symbols)]. Otherwise, I find it a good choice as well at first glance. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't think this would make a good PotM selection. It's a wonderful little piece of research, but it contains a LOT of poetic quotations, and a LOT of foreign language text. I saw Spanish, French, German, Latin, and Greek all in the prefatory material and first chapter alone. This could make a good group collaboration, but I don't think it's suitable for PotM; its format and content are too challenging. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:15, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't see the problem there. The language and formatting issues are not that complex. It's a relatively short work. BD2412 T 14:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Most contributors to previous PotM steer clear of poetic formatting pages, and do not proofread pages with non-English text. So, it is a pretty serious issue for selecting PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

February 2016[edit]

Since we didn't pick it up in October, I propose moving forward with Beeswaxcandle's proposal for the Norwegian novel Hunger by Knut Hamsun. BD2412 T 17:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: The translator George Egerton died in 1945, which will be just over 70 years ago when we start work on this. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Life of the author plus 70 years. BD2412 T 16:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

March 2016[edit]

  • There are a number of works we have in the series of Portal:Hibbert Lectures that cover this genre. They are usually substantial in size 300+ pp for a series of lectures. So looking at w:Hibbert Lectures maybe we could consider one of
For Kuenen, this scan: (External scan) looks to be the best. The length is fine, the subject is broad, and the many footnotes are mostly short and easy to handle. The only possible complaint I can see is that the author's view towards the origin and practice of Islam is likely to offend most Muslims. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

April 2016[edit]

For poetry month, I recommend works of poetry by soldiers fallen during WWI. I have generated a list of works for consideration based on my proofreading of For Remembrance & etc.—if this seems like a palatable idea. Sorry for the space this takes up. Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Author Availability Pub date
Brown, Frank S. Contingent ditties and other soldier songs of the great war 1915
Campbell, Ivar Poems 1917
Coulson, Leslie From an outpost and other poems 1917
Day, Jeffery Poems and Rhymes 1919
Freston, Hugh Reginald The quest of truth and other poems 1916
Kettle, Tom Poems and Parodies 1916
Ledwidge, Francis The complete poems of Francis Ledwidge (transcription project) 1919
Mackintosh, Ewart Alan War, the liberator, and other pieces: with a memoir 1918
A Highland Regiment (3rd ed, with pub note on death) 1918
Philips, Colwyn Erasmus Arnold Colwyn Erasmus Arnold Philipps 1915
Pitt, Bernard Essays, poems, letters 1917
Robins, George Upton Lays of the Hertfordshire Hunt, and other sporting verses 1912
Seeger, Alan Poems 1916
Sterling, Robert W. The poems of Robert W. Sterling 1916
Streets, John William The undying splendour 1917
Thomas, Edward Poems 1917
Last Poems 1918
Vernède, R. E. War poems and other verses 1917
Wall, Geoffrey Songs of an airman 1917
Wilson, T. P. Cameron Magpies in Picardy 1919

May 2016[edit]

June 2016[edit]

July 2016[edit]

August 2016[edit]

  • Wives of the prime ministers, 1844-1906 (External scan) by Elizabeth Lee
    By a woman about important women who otherwise drop under the radar. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:44, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
    Looks like an interesting book. Although I've heard a lot about US First Ladies, I've heard almost nothing about the wives of UK Prime Ministers. Do we know the date of death for the two authors? That could affect whether it's hosted here or on Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
    Lee died in 1920, and w:Lucy Masterman is the person listed as a contributor died 1977. One could argue that contributions are not necessarily the authorship (research, opinions, organisational) and the declaration of a specific author is sufficient. Though if you want to play safe, we just have the scan stored here. The work is pre-1923 so able to be hosted here. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

September 2016[edit]

October 2016[edit]

December 2016[edit]

Books parked for consideration[edit]

Noting the list at the top of the page too
  • Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeny. In an effort to find some popular public domain publications for inclusion here at WS, I found that the HTML version of this book is the most-downloaded text at the Internet Archive. Plus, someone has already gone to the trouble of extracting and cleaning the images [4]. There is a tiny amount of text cut off on pages 63-64, but the missing letters can be determined from context and from the HTML version --Eliyak T·C 22:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
(a) It's a key work of a great English writer;
(b) Johnson's text will be fun to read;
(c) It will add biographies of several writers.
(a) It's in multiple volumes, so we might have to start with just the first one and see what transpires;
(b) There will be many uses of long-s and the like;
(c) We may not be able to get a first edition to work from, and I'm not sure that I could find a complete set of a single edition in IA.

Would a work of this sort ever be a good selection for PotM, and why or why not? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, I think the idea of finishing "abandoned books" is a very good idea. I am working on two of them now. If we all did this together we could finish them up quick and add them to our library here. THESE should be "Proofreads of the Month" instead of finding more before we have finished these sitting here.. —Maury (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion for Proofreads of the Month[edit]

Suggestion for Proofreads of the Month

I often see a banner that states: There are no works on Wikisource by this author. If you'd like to add a new text, please review Help:Adding texts. The 2nd one that I saw today was about a "British Naval surgeon, zoologist and palaeontologist." Why not consider placing at least one work of these Authors that have no works on en.WS? In this particular situation I came here to present this idea and this author, I read about this fellow when reading and marking "validated" in a work done by Billinghurst. I found a new work unlisted on an author page, via also a Billinghurst mention and a link Billinghurst left in his text that showed me a very good book to add. That was sometime yesterday and I don't recall the details as I type this but I can find it.

Back to the former, this way we can fill in some blanks where we have "Authors", and this particular fellow has an excellent article on en.WPedia plus there is a photograph to add to a completed-looking work. I do not believe we should have "Authors" without an authored works when we can change that situation by adding them as a proofread of the month. Kindest regards to all and a Happy November 2nd. Maury ( —William Maury Morris IITalk 11:45, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

@William Maury Morris II: I am not sure of your question. If it is about us missing an author page for someone at enWP and their works are in the public domain, then sure we can create it. If you don't want to, then please let me know. Similarly if an author page is redlinked, then we can create the author page. I do that all the time. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Duh, that was a 2012 message. November and November had me missing the critical. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Author:John Lloyd Stephens (listed on en WS)[edit]

Author:John Lloyd Stephens wrote several grand books and they are illustrated. Let us choose something a bit more exciting lest we have an *another* unfinished work. —Maury (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

The Book of the Homeless[edit]

The Book of the Homeless (index) was put together by American novelist Edith Wharton to raise money for homeless World War I refugees. She collected material from many of the best writers, artists and musicians of her time: Sarah Bernhardt, Rupert Brooke, Joseph Conrad, John Galsworthy, Thomas Hardy, Henry James, Igor Stravinsky, William Butler Yeats, Claude Monet, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, Auguste Rodin, and so on. Also Theodore Roosevelt.

I have got what I wanted out of this — a Henry James essay not available elsewhere — and won't be finishing it off. But it struck me that this is an interesting short work that is likely to provide challenges to a broad cross-section of us: there's prose and poetry to be transcribed, including some in French, many images to be restored, and several musical scores to be transcribed.

In short, if you guys are ever looking for an interesting and challenging short work to proof, I commend this one to you.

Hesperian 03:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Good candidate for our January quirky books month. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:12, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Hesperian & Beeswaxcandle, 11 November 1918 is when World War I. ended and therefore it could be a good book for that same month of November 2013. Kindest regards, —Maury (talk) 03:35, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
It could certainly be a good book for November. However, isn't November a validation month? An alternative could be to keep it for January, as Beeswaxcandle said, or maybe for August (double purpose: Wharton died in August, and a book by a female author is required. —Clockery Fairfield (talk·contribs) 11:08, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

2015 update: This book is nearly proofread though, as only a few images and pages remain to be done. Then, the book can be included as a November selection for validation (if it isn't validation before that time). --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:42, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

The Tale of Old Mortality[edit]

We don't have Walter Scott's The Tale of Old Mortality, which shocked me. Actually, we have very few works by him at all, despite his stature as an English writer, but The Tale of Old Mortality (or simply Old Mortality) is considered one of his best novels, and is a pretty high-profile English novel for us to be missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, what is the url for the version you have found? I wish to look at it. —Maury (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, to clarify first off (if you didn't know), Old Mortality is one in a series of loosely associated novels collected under the title Tales of My Landlord, though each is an independent story and novel. Of the first four volumes that make up "series 1", volumes 2 through 4 are Old Mortality (volume 1 is a separate story entitled The Black Dwarf). So, here then are the first edition (1816) volumes: Vol. II, Vol. III, Vol. IV. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

A dictionary of the Book of Mormon[edit]

I would like to nominate Index:A dictionary of the Book of Mormon.pdf. So far as I can tell, it is one of the few available "reference" type works on the Book of Mormon, thus making it one of the few available which give easier access to that work. John Carter (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

From a technical persepective, a better scan would be needed. The Google scans from that period are quite bad. It also needs to be in DjVu format. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
See IA for the .DjVu if still interested. I just replaced the PDF from there onto Commons and the quality is far better now. -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
It really isn't that long a work, and I could probably do the proofread solo if need be. Unfortunately, I'm enough of a tech illiterate that I've never really uploaded anything properly. John Carter (talk) 19:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps you could email the text to a volunteer who would upload it. Oh, I am not that volunteer, just an idea girl passing by for other purposes (see new section below)! Hope this helps, Geekdiva (talk) 09:32, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
There are two copies on Hathi, one from Harvard and the other from NY Public Library. I can upload either or both of these (in DjVu) if this is still something we want. The Haz talk 18:34, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed the one comment about it being uploaded. The Haz talk 18:39, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Small caps, or not?[edit]

I just marked some small caps, but now I'm not so sure. On the previous page, dates are "XVI" throughout. The difference between a small cap and lowercase X and V is sometimes difficult, but the difference between "i" and "I" is obvious. So they use "I", and I marked them all as small caps. But in the footnote on this page, it's "vii", and now I don't know what to do. Is "vii" a Latin word (not a number at all)? Or are these numbers supposed to be lower case? WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:26, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

The "vii" is a monetary count (seven ducats) given in lower-case, whereas the dates appear to be given in small-caps. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:46, 31 October 2015 (UTC)