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Please help start a list of text that need to be proofread. Larger text are preferred because we hope to have a large group of people working on the text of the month. Here is a great place to start looking for text to be proofread.

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A list of potential PotM candidates[edit]

On the transcription project, there is a good list of text that are ready to be proofread. That list is available here. This list continues to grow so it would be great if we could knock it down. --Mattwj2002 11:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


Calendar 2016[edit]

List[edit]

Month Work Category Status
January Index:The Kiss and its History.djvu
Index:The Comic English Grammar.djvu
Index:Fountains Abbey.djvu
Quirky Yes check.svg completed
February Index:Hunger (Hamsun).djvu
Index:Panchatantra.djvu
Fiction Yes check.svg completed
March Index:Wives of the prime ministers, 1844-1906.djvu Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month / Woman author Yes check.svg completed
April Index:Poems, Alan Seeger, 1916.djvu
Index:Poets of John Company.djvu
Poetry / Drama Yes check.svg completed
May Geography (little known area)
June Biography
July Natural History
August Anthropology or Mythology / Religion
September WS:RT
October Fiction (banned)
November Validation month Working on finishing proofread works
December

January 2016[edit]

Because I am silly enough to think that having it as the featured text on Valentine's Day might be amusing, I nominate The Kiss and Its History by Kristoffer Nyrop at archive.org (External scan). The work is one of the few sources cited for the article on kissing in the recent Eerdmans Dictionary of the Bible, which is evidently reason to think it is one of the better such works out there. John Carter (talk) 18:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

I like it, though we will need another as it is 210pp. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:47, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Only issue I can foresee—if it becomes nominated for FT—is that you will need to keep a tight rein on the formatting before (explicit formatting instructions on Index Talk page), during (making sure multiple editors are actually following the instructions) and after (perhaps a couple validation run-throughs) proofreading in order for it to be FT-worthy the following month. [Some formatting considerations: Wikilinking (rule of thumb: one internal link—per subject—per chapter—difficult to monitor with multiple editors); poetry (I recommend {{Block center}} with breaks and gaps—also introduce {{fqm}}); references (standard vice symbols)]. Otherwise, I find it a good choice as well at first glance. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't think this would make a good PotM selection. It's a wonderful little piece of research, but it contains a LOT of poetic quotations, and a LOT of foreign language text. I saw Spanish, French, German, Latin, and Greek all in the prefatory material and first chapter alone. This could make a good group collaboration, but I don't think it's suitable for PotM; its format and content are too challenging. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:15, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't see the problem there. The language and formatting issues are not that complex. It's a relatively short work. BD2412 T 14:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Most contributors to previous PotM steer clear of poetic formatting pages, and do not proofread pages with non-English text. So, it is a pretty serious issue for selecting PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
There being no other suggestions at present, I've gone with The Kiss. Per @Londonjackbooks:' suggestion I have put some formatting notes on the Index Talk page. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:43, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Some possibilities to follow the first selection:

  • The Milestones and the Old Post Road [1], short work (20pp)
  • Telephone Lines and Methods of Constructing them Overhead and Underground [2], longer work (420pp) profusely illustrated
  • Fountains Abbey: the story of a mediæval monastery [3], 204pp
  • Short [178pp] : Anonymous (1840) "The Comic English Grammar" --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:07, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
    (Note: The particular copy linked, now in a California library, is stamped as having previously belonged to Walt Disney Studios.)
The Kiss is all done now I think. What's next? :) — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 04:10, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Just putting The Comic English Grammar into the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:49, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

February 2016[edit]

Since we didn't pick it up in October, I propose moving forward with Beeswaxcandle's proposal for the Norwegian novel Hunger by Knut Hamsun. BD2412 T 17:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Note: The translator George Egerton died in 1945, which will be just over 70 years ago when we start work on this. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Life of the author plus 70 years. BD2412 T 16:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
But the author, Knut Hamsun died in 1952, which is only 64 years ago. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:34, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Translation published 1899, original in 1890. The work is PD in the US. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
But do we need to move the source copy to Wikisource? Is it PD in Norway, or will Commons delete it? --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:30, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

The crime novel w:Quintus Servinton (1830) was allegedly the first novel published in Australia. There are a few online versions floating around. Moondyne (talk) 06:23, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

But no PD scans :( ... Moondyne (talk) 23:27, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hunger is coming to an end, so I suggest we pick up the other work proposed in the last time we looked at Fiction, which was Index:Panchatantra.djvu. @Hrishikes: says that, although published in 1925, the copyright wasn't renewed and that this particular translation is an important one to have in our collection. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:38, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

March 2016[edit]

Noting that enWP is having in March w:Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month and maybe we should be swapping our women's work over, or think about how we can work on that jointly, also see w:Wikipedia:Meetup/Women_in_Red/8. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:50, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

That makes a great deal of sense to me. BD2412 T 02:53, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
Our choices are flexible. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:16, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
An excellent idea! How about asking around those projects for suggestions? CYGNIS INSIGNIS 06:50, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
I have dropped a note to the project's talk page, and put a note on Keilana's talk page. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:43, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Wives of the prime ministers, 1844-1906 (External scan) by Elizabeth Lee
    By a woman about important women who otherwise drop under the radar. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:44, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
    Looks like an interesting book. Although I've heard a lot about US First Ladies, I've heard almost nothing about the wives of UK Prime Ministers. Do we know the date of death for the two authors? That could affect whether it's hosted here or on Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:11, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
    Lee died in 1920, and w:Lucy Masterman is the person listed as a contributor died 1977. One could argue that contributions are not necessarily the authorship (research, opinions, organisational) and the declaration of a specific author is sufficient. Though if you want to play safe, we just have the scan stored here. The work is pre-1923 so able to be hosted here. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Lives of the Wives of Queen Victoria's Prime Ministers (1917) Elizabeth Lee
if someone could queue up Index:Wives of the prime ministers, 1844-1906.djvu, and upload Lives of the Wives of Queen Victoria's Prime Ministers, that would be helpful. Slowking4RAN's revenge 14:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
I have added this as the current PotM. — Sam Wilson ( TalkContribs ) … 23:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

April 2016[edit]

For poetry month, I recommend works of poetry by soldiers fallen during WWI. I have generated a list of works for consideration based on my proofreading of For Remembrance & etc.—if this seems like a palatable idea. Sorry for the space this takes up. Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:40, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Author Availability Pub date
Brown, Frank S. Contingent ditties and other soldier songs of the great war 1915
Campbell, Ivar Poems 1917
Coulson, Leslie From an outpost and other poems 1917
Day, Jeffery Poems and Rhymes 1919
Freston, Hugh Reginald The quest of truth and other poems 1916
Kettle, Tom Poems and Parodies 1916
Mackintosh, Ewart Alan War, the liberator, and other pieces: with a memoir 1918
A Highland Regiment (3rd ed, with pub note on death) 1918
Philips, Colwyn Erasmus Arnold Colwyn Erasmus Arnold Philipps 1915
Pitt, Bernard Essays, poems, letters 1917
Robins, George Upton Lays of the Hertfordshire Hunt, and other sporting verses 1912
Seeger, Alan Poems 1916
Sterling, Robert W. The poems of Robert W. Sterling 1916
Streets, John William The undying splendour 1917
Thomas, Edward Poems 1917
Last Poems 1918
Vernède, R. E. War poems and other verses 1917
Wall, Geoffrey Songs of an airman 1917
Wilson, T. P. Cameron Magpies in Picardy 1919
 

I would like to suggest a somewhat quirky item, Index:Poets of John Company.djvu, a collection authored by British people living in India in the times of the East India Company. The authors include William Jones, Warren Hastings, Henry Louis Vivian Derozio, Horace Hayman Wilson, Emma Roberts and many others. Hrishikes (talk) 15:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

I like the idea of doing a book of WWI poetry. As this is rather a long list, let's focus on one of the books from 1916 so that we can feature it as a centennial of publication. If we get through the chosen work, we could then move on to Hrishikes' suggestion, which sounds intriguing. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Of the 1916 works (and many others listed), most poems are pre-WWI. I might recommend Leslie Coulson's 1917 From an Outpost (Coulson died in 1916); or Vernède's War poems &c. (1917). We have Mackintosh's works here already, but they are unindexed. Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Plumb forgot about the new PotM. I can set up an index (I am now leaning towards Alan Seeger's Poems (1916)—his war poetry in part the last), or we can go ahead with Hrishikes' recommendation above—just to get a work on the Main page for April at least. If there are no takers, I can try my hand at listing on the Main page—not 100% sure how to do it, but I could give it a shot; just didn't want to step on anyone's toes... Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:31, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Based on Beeswaxcandle's consent to do a 1916 work on war poetry, Alan Seeger's Poems should basically fit the bill. The last portion of the work covers his war poetry, and for those editors who do not necessarily like to work with poetry, there is a somewhat lengthy introduction (with some poetry). I left poetry formatting suggestions at the Talk page of the index, and may add more as I familiarize myself with the work. I will go ahead and make changes to the {{PotM}} and {{Collaboration}} templates to reflect the selection. Feel free to check my changes to make sure I have not made any mistakes. Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
I have selected Hrishikes' suggestion above as second April selection. Seeger's Poems is in still in need of transclusion and standardization, and I will continue that process. Help is still welcomed in these areas. Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:30, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

@AnotherAnonymous, @AuFCL, @BD2412, @Beleg Tâl, @Bradype, @Clockery, @Einstein95:@Kastrel, @Mpaa, @Outlier59, @Rochefoucauld, @ShakespeareFan00, @Slowking4, @Solomon7968:@Weas3l5491, @William Maury Morris II, @Xpctr8: Thank you for your contributions to the Proofread of the Month projects for April. To update: Seeger's Poems still needs to be checked for standardization following the recommended guidelines on the project's Talk page, and pages have yet to be transcluded is complete but for a Greek double-check that I have requested. Poets of John Company is almost done (preparing for transclusion), and while there was no recommended formatting posted, it seems to be in the process of standardization using the poem tag. Londonjackbooks (talk) 01:35, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

And Author pages to be created and linked.— Mpaa (talk) 07:18, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
Is there time for a third work? I would like to suggest Index:The Bird of Time.djvu, by India's best known female poet. Not a long work, it should be possible to complete within the remaining month. Sorry, didn't realise that placeholders were already in place. Hrishikes (talk) 10:24, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

May 2016[edit]

Some famous travelogues:

Locations were exotic at time of travel. My recommendation is for the first item of my list, because of the POV of author, and because a travelogue of Europe by a foreigner should be an interesting item. Hrishikes (talk) 02:22, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

My choice would be the exploratory report by J. D. Beglar about the rich history of Chhota Nagpur Plateau of eastern India. Beglar's report is one of the very few documentations on this area and his work is still referred with respect by researchers there. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:04, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I did not know about the full significance of the work, but yes, it is about a little known area, so Symbol support vote.svg Support. Hrishikes (talk) 07:31, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
P.S. A problem is the lack of OCR layer, but I'll take care of it. Hrishikes (talk) 07:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
I am actually keen for the first one also. It is interesting to see what perspective would be provided about Europe by some one from India. Since we have generally been getting through two a month, let's line that up to be the second one. BD2412 T 17:46, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
I agree that both of those would be interesting. Symbol support vote.svg Support AnotherAnonymous (talk) 08:51, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

June 2016[edit]

Some biographies:

If autobiographies are allowed:

I have given a list, from which, choices can be made, if others concur. Hrishikes (talk) 07:14, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Too many options. Please bring the list down to three of the best-remember that most of us don't have any knowledge of these people or their significance. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:25, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't think people here have so little around-the-world knowledge. Anyway, all the subjects have Wikipedia articles, so getting the knowledge is not an issue. The list can be narrowed down to the first three (as good as any), but I would prefer a community feedback. Hrishikes (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
A good list, but we can't do all of them! The one I've heard of are Tagore, Ramakrishna, Aurangzib, and the Buddha.AnotherAnonymous (talk) 16:44, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
I would like to recommend the biography of Isvar Chandra Vidyasagar, a social reformer and educationist from 19th century Bengal, who fought against religious and superstitious rituals and dogma in a rational way. -- Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:17, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support, Vidyasagar was one of India's most important social reformers, who fought for women's rights and paved the way for widow remarriage among the Hindus. Hrishikes (talk) 07:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

July 2016[edit]

Some short ones: --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:02, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

It looks at though the US Dept. of Agriculture, Entomology Division, has put out a whole series of short publications on pest insects. We might consider working on this range throughout the month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:30, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Granted... Londonjackbooks (talk) 23:02, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
I had a squiz at that text and think it is a great suggestion. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 19:07, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

August 2016[edit]

  • There are a number of works we have in the series of Portal:Hibbert Lectures that cover this genre. They are usually substantial in size 300+ pp for a series of lectures. So looking at w:Hibbert Lectures maybe we could consider one of
For Kuenen, this scan: (External scan) looks to be the best. The length is fine, the subject is broad, and the many footnotes are mostly short and easy to handle. The only possible complaint I can see is that the author's view towards the origin and practice of Islam is likely to offend most Muslims. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:14, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
If we include material offensive to a group, it is because part of our function is to document the social mores, for good or ill, of the past. BD2412 T 02:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
The inclusion of such material is not at issue. What is at issue is the selection of a suitable work for community collaboration, which necessarily requires a different set of criteria. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:28, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but what criteria? We had The Descent of Man as a collaboration, despite its controversial (and, arguably, offensive) nature to creationists; The Aborigines of Victoria and Riverina, which paints an unflattering picture of that group; and The Varieties of Religious Experience, which dismisses the doctrinal truth of religions altogether in favor of a more psychological cause, and primarily cites Christianity for its examples. It doesn't seem that offending a group, or offensive characterizations of a group, have been a consideration in the past. BD2412 T 17:17, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
So... you are arguing that we should offend as many people as possible, then? Or that: because a thing has not been done in the past, we shouldn't start now? Or, what exactly? Your opinion in the matter is not clear. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
I am arguing that it hasn't been done in the past, and adopting such a position now creates the appearance that there is one specific group for which we would dismiss the historical value of a work to avoid giving offense. BD2412 T 14:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
OK, but that still doesn't answer the question I posed: What is your opinion in the matter? --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:02, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
My opinion is that for POTM we should focus on the historical and literary importance of works, having a diverse breadth of coverage, and suitability in terms of size and formatting issues. I don't think that we should be particularly concerned with whether an otherwise qualifying work happens to reflect the prejudices and societal misconceptions of the day. BD2412 T 15:25, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
  • An alternate view of anthropology, there is an important primary work still quoted in current day media ... Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds work already available at Gutenberg. The links are to scans from 1841, and the condition is reasonable, though not brilliant for the images (External scans (multiple parts): 1, 2, 3). — billinghurst sDrewth 02:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

As mythology is also allowed:

Hrishikes (talk) 15:30, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

If we choose to do one of these volumes, I favor Mythology vol. 3 (Celtic & Slavic), as it covers an area where we currently have little information. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:18, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, good enough, I think. If vol 3 gets completed before the month is over, then we can take up another volume; mythological stories are likely to sustain contributors' interest, these are also easy for POTM. I would prefer vol 12 as the second item, if it comes to that; its area is also little covered. Hrishikes (talk) 16:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Hmmm. I've been seeing lots of references, and thus red links, to Cox's Mythology of the Aryan Nations, so I'm now leaning that way. It too would make a valuable addition, even though I'm uncertain how much of the scholarship has held up after all this time. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

September 2016[edit]

October 2016[edit]

What do people think about doing The Red Badge of Courage by Stephen Crane? The book has at times been banned [4], and our current copy is "source unknown". --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

December 2016[edit]

Books parked for consideration[edit]

Noting the list at the top of the page too
  • Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeny. In an effort to find some popular public domain publications for inclusion here at WS, I found that the HTML version of this book is the most-downloaded text at the Internet Archive. Plus, someone has already gone to the trouble of extracting and cleaning the images [5]. There is a tiny amount of text cut off on pages 63-64, but the missing letters can be determined from context and from the Archive.org HTML version --Eliyak T·C 22:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Pros:
(a) It's a key work of a great English writer;
(b) Johnson's text will be fun to read;
(c) It will add biographies of several writers.
Cons:
(a) It's in multiple volumes, so we might have to start with just the first one and see what transpires;
(b) There will be many uses of long-s and the like;
(c) We may not be able to get a first edition to work from, and I'm not sure that I could find a complete set of a single edition in IA.

Would a work of this sort ever be a good selection for PotM, and why or why not? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, I think the idea of finishing "abandoned books" is a very good idea. I am working on two of them now. If we all did this together we could finish them up quick and add them to our library here. THESE should be "Proofreads of the Month" instead of finding more before we have finished these sitting here.. —Maury (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Author:John Lloyd Stephens (listed on en WS)[edit]

Author:John Lloyd Stephens wrote several grand books and they are illustrated. Let us choose something a bit more exciting lest we have an *another* unfinished work. —Maury (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

The Tale of Old Mortality[edit]

We don't have Walter Scott's The Tale of Old Mortality, which shocked me. Actually, we have very few works by him at all, despite his stature as an English writer, but The Tale of Old Mortality (or simply Old Mortality) is considered one of his best novels, and is a pretty high-profile English novel for us to be missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, what is the url for the version you have found? I wish to look at it. —Maury (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, to clarify first off (if you didn't know), Old Mortality is one in a series of loosely associated novels collected under the title Tales of My Landlord, though each is an independent story and novel. Of the first four volumes that make up "series 1", volumes 2 through 4 are Old Mortality (volume 1 is a separate story entitled The Black Dwarf). So, here then are the first edition (1816) volumes: Vol. II, Vol. III, Vol. IV. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

A dictionary of the Book of Mormon[edit]

I would like to nominate Index:A dictionary of the Book of Mormon.pdf. So far as I can tell, it is one of the few available "reference" type works on the Book of Mormon, thus making it one of the few available which give easier access to that work. John Carter (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

From a technical persepective, a better scan would be needed. The Google scans from that period are quite bad. It also needs to be in DjVu format. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:31, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
See IA for the .DjVu if still interested. I just replaced the PDF from there onto Commons and the quality is far better now. -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:46, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
It really isn't that long a work, and I could probably do the proofread solo if need be. Unfortunately, I'm enough of a tech illiterate that I've never really uploaded anything properly. John Carter (talk) 19:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps you could email the text to a volunteer who would upload it. Oh, I am not that volunteer, just an idea girl passing by for other purposes (see new section below)! Hope this helps, Geekdiva (talk) 09:32, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
There are two copies on Hathi, one from Harvard and the other from NY Public Library. I can upload either or both of these (in DjVu) if this is still something we want. The Haz talk 18:34, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed the one comment about it being uploaded. The Haz talk 18:39, 13 April 2015 (UTC)