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Please help start a list of text that need to be proofread. Larger text are preferred because we hope to have a large group of people working on the text of the month. Here is a great place to start looking for text to be proofread.

List of suggested works not actioned[edit]


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Short works requiring validation[edit]

Have problematic pages
Translations, not eligible for simple listing

New works of less than 30 pages to be added to QUEUED

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A list of potential PotM candidates[edit]

On the transcription project, there is a good list of text that are ready to be proofread. That list is available here. This list continues to grow so it would be great if we could knock it down. --Mattwj2002 11:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

My person opinion, If people keep bringing in projects (and I have seen it) then they should do a good part of the editing. Some, whoever they are, bring in works for others to do and the work-load adds up. Too, if the texts are brought in and left for others, then others may not like the topic so the work load keeps building up. It would be nice to know [who] likes what to work on. *I* like history and specifically illustrated history* but not children’s books or poems. I have several more volumes to do and more I want to do after that. This way I work on what I brought in, or have another bring in because he/they like the same kind of work. --Maury (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Calendar 2018[edit]

List[edit]

Month Work Category Status
January Index:Language of the Eye.djvu
Index:The Milestones and the Old Post Road.djvu
Index:The Sclavonic Provinces of the Ottoman Empire.djvu
Index:Treatise on Cultivation of the Potato.djvu
Quirky Yes check.svg completed
February Index:Cyclopedia of Painting-Armstrong, George D (1908).djvu Fine arts Yes check.svg completed
March Index:Vindication Women's Rights (Wollstonecraft).djvu Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month / Woman author Yes check.svg completed
April Index:Modern poets and poetry of Spain.djvu Poetry / Drama Yes check.svg completed
May Index:A Motor-Flight Through France.djvu
Index:Siberia and the Exile System Vol 1.djvu
Geography (North Africa?) Yes check.svg completed
June Index:Lives of Poets-Laureate.djvu Biography Yes check.svg completed
July Index:Wuthering Heights and Agnes Grey (1st edition), Volume 1 (Wuthering Heights, Volume 1).djvu
Index:Wuthering Heights and Agnes Grey (1st edition), Volume 2 (Wuthering Heights, Volume 2).djvu
Fiction: Novel (Early 20th Century) Yes check.svg completed
August Index:The Sikhs (Gordon).djvu Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion Yes check.svg completed
September Index:Natural History, Reptiles.djvu
Index:Natural History, Fishes.djvu
Natural History
October Fiction (SF/Fantastical/etc.)
November The end of the Great War
December Fiction: Short story collections

January 2018[edit]

Task A[edit]

  • The Language of the Eye: The importance and dignity of the eye as indicative of general character, female beauty, and manly genius (1856) by Author:Joseph Turnley (external scan) "Untechnical" relatively short work (90pp) with some illustration and poetry. Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support, an excellent eye-dea. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't know... Validating chapter 8—pretty sappy indeed, imo. Let's get this one done and move on to the next quirky work ;) Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:29, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support --Siddhant (talk) 03:53, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Automatically Selected Albert Micah Hang (talk) 21:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Task B[edit]

Other possibilities:

  • The Milestones and the Old Post Road [1] 20 pp (Book A) Yes check.svg selected
  • Old Castles [2] 92 pp (left over from Jan 17) (Book B)
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral This book have a lot of text, but there are still some decoration pictures in the text that should be handled if selected. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg SupportBeleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • A Treatise on the Cultivation of the Potato [3] 72 pp (Book C) Yes check.svg selected
  • Symbol neutral vote.svg Neutral This book have a lot of text, but it contains 1 table. I vote "neutral" on this one. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 18:54, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg SupportBeleg Tâl (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Analysis of the Organization of the Prussian Army [4] 92 pp (Book D)
  • The Sclavonic Provinces of the Ottoman Empire [5] 28 pp (Book E) Yes check.svg selected

February 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

  • Nathaniel Hawthorne's The Dolliver Romance, Fanshawe, and Septimus Felton (external scan)
    Currently, we have neither Dolliver, which was unfinished at the time of Hawthorne's death, nor Septimus, which was discovered and published posthumously. Our copy of Fanshawe is not backed by a scan, though we do have it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:09, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Option B[edit]

Option C[edit]

  • Cyclopedia of Painting by George D. Armstrong (1908). This is a book of applied arts rather than fine arts. It does cover the painting of landscapes and such, but also the painting of houses and practical matters of all forms of painting. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:53, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support --Siddhant (talk) 09:17, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Selected Cyclopedia of Painting as the first work. If got through relatively quickly, then we could make a start on Moslem Architecture (which looks quite interesting). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

March 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

Umm... That series is already the Community Collaboration. The books don't need to be handled in two separate front-page collaborative projects at the same time, surely? --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:13, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
there is 20 books to pick from. those that i don’t do before then can fill the time. unsigned comment by Slowking4 (talk) .
Being selfish, I would just like to note that I am not merely proofreading Pennell's contribution, but am also reading it as I go along. Anyone is free to help, of course, but as there are many others to be worked on, I would like to all but claim this one. Trying to do a chapter a day. Londonjackbooks (talk) 02:49, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
I have just set up the one for Emily Brontë. But again, these will likely all be proofread long before March, and are already part of a different collaboration project. We should pick something for MArch PotM that isn't already being done. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
at the rate of 2 per month, there will be 10 left to do. but if you have a better work, i am all ears. Slowking4SvG's revenge 16:11, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Option B[edit]

We have none of the brilliant essays on literature, philosophy, and religion by George Eliot (Marian Evans):

--EncycloPetey (talk) 20:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Option C[edit]

Option D[edit]

April 2018[edit]

Options[edit]

Yes check.svg selected

May 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

  • Perhaps Vols. I & II of George Kennan's Siberia and the Exile System (1891) V1 V2 In 1884, the editor of The Century Magazine suggested Kennan go to Siberia and give the results of his work to the magazine. The 2-vol. set is a compilation of the fruit of Kennan's observations. Numerous pictures, maps, etc. History, geography, etc. of a then-"terra incognita". Londonjackbooks (talk) 02:49, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I'm afraid if we can finish these 2 huge volumes within one month or not because they have so many pictures and maps within each volume (in the text or at individual pages). Albert Micah Hang (talk) 21:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Option B[edit]

  • Perhaps A Motor-Flight through France (1908) [6] by American author Edith Wharton. We have none of her travel literature, for which she was known, and this is a view of France in the early 20th century, before the devastation of two World Wars. It includes nearly 50 illustrations, most (all?) photographs. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support An excellent idea. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 17:27, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Symbol support vote.svg Support - let's line it up! BD2412 T 15:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
    • Yes check.svg Done . I'd already selected it, I just forgot to put it in the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Option C[edit]

June 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

  • The Lives of the Poets-Laureate, by W. S. Austin and J. Ralph (1856) (external scan)
    This is a series of short biographies of all of Britain's poets-laureate from Ben Jonnson to William Wordsworth. It includes biographies of outstanding poets for whom we have little or no information, such as Laurence Eusden (whose author page I just created). --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
    • Support. Sounds like quite a useful resource. BD2412 T 15:19, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
      • Let's launch this. There is no plan B. Cheers! BD2412 T 02:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

July 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Support, adding a scan to an existing work is always a good plan. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

P.S. I should say why: On of Canada’s most famous early authors, and known for his humour. It seems like that might help make this more fun to do, then a dry source text? On the other hand, no images. —Canageek (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Option B[edit]

  • Either of these early novels by Edith Wharton would be nice. She was a Pulitzer prize winner (the 100th anniversary of which is coming up), but we are missing lots of her works, and I can't find many of them in on-line catalogs either: VIAF, BnF, GND, and LoC are sadly short of her works, so having them here would contribute to the diversity of the entire web and not just Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:37, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
    The Fruit of the Tree (1907) (external scan)
    The Marne (1918) (external scan)
Symbol support vote.svg Support I think The Marne is the best option for July because it is short enough for us to finish in one month and it corresponds to the topic of "Early 20th century novel". But I'm a little bit afraid that The Fruit of the Tree is so long for us to finish. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 17:23, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Also Symbol support vote.svg Support but I think the other options suggested are better. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The Marne has been completed, and just needs validation now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:19, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Option C[edit]

  • Wuthering Heights.
    This July is Emily Brontë's 200th birthday, but we have only an unsourced edition of her masterpiece Wuthering Heights.
    There is a transcription project started for the 1st edition: (Volume 1 transcription project, Volume 2 transcription project)
    Note first that although there are many pages over two volumes, there is very little text per page and little formatting to be done, and second that this edition was published by T. C. Newby, who is renowned for poorly supervising the printing and correction of the novels that he published. This edition is no exception; it contains many errors. So we will need to make liberal use of {{SIC}}. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:16, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
    Symbol support vote.svg Support, an important work and a worthy task, very timely. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol support vote.svg Support I am confident we can pull this off in the month. I'll invest the time. BD2412 T 14:38, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Option D[edit]

Frankenstein turns 200. We have someone else's 1831 version. <shrug> Having something scan-supported would be worthwhile. Not that I have seen what scans are available. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:59, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Symbol support vote.svg Support to add the scan. Less timely than Bronte (Option C), since Frankenstein was published in January, but still a great option. I'd do this as second work after Bronte. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support Although it's listed here I did some fairly extensive OCR cleanup on this earlier in the year. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment We have three different sets of scans (three editions). Which one is being nominated? --EncycloPetey (talk) 14:18, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment After some reflection, I have made a proposal below to change the October theme to fantasy/supernatural/horror fiction beginning in 2019, and to kick it off with this work. BD2412 T 14:42, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Comment[edit]

We are well into the month. Can we just flip a coin and start on any one of these? BD2412 T 14:53, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

My coin says option C. I've updated accordingly. Apologies to anyone who considers me to be stepping on their toes - or if I've missed a step. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

August 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

Option B[edit]

  • The Sikhs, by John James Hood Gordon (1904) (external scan)
    We have almost nothing on the religion, culture, or history of the Sikhs. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:09, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol support vote.svg Support, though per our discussion on WS:CC The Sikh Religion might be a better focus. Maybe we can do both at once as a coordinated Sikh-related effort? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 15:57, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
    I fear that doing two such works at the same time would divide the number of interested editors, and thus slow the progress of both. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:02, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
    Fair enough. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:26, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol support vote.svg Support, to expand representation of underrepresented cultures. BD2412 T 15:20, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Option C[edit]

  • Polynesian mythology & ancient traditional history of the New Zealanders, as furnished by their priests and chiefs, by George Grey (1906) [1922 reprint] (external scan)
    I would back this as a second work. BD2412 T 14:41, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Option D[edit]

September 2018[edit]

Being unable to find a suitable PotM work on WS:RT, I have moved the Natural History month forwards and chosen a work in a series we have already done several across other years. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

October 2018[edit]

See my proposal for July, Option D, above. Cheers! BD2412 T 22:33, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Shall we go ahead and do Frankenstein for the 200th anniversary, then? BD2412 T 00:27, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
Nothing else has been proposed for this month at present. I will be away from a computer at the time of changing over, so someone else will need to update the templates. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:09, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
Would that then be this source? Shenme (talk) 04:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
New PotM? Beleg Tâl, EncycloPetey, BD2412 : Beeswaxcandle said (above) they’d be gone for a bit, so I’m impertinently/expectantly em-pinging. Shenme (talk) 04:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
The Fish volume isn't yet complete. Most of the images have been done yet. So we could either wait a while longer, or switch if there is an Index for something else ready to go. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately, my time will be very tight until about mid-month, but I would really like to see the above proposed theme stick. BD2412 T 02:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
The first edition has already been fully proofread, though only the first volume validated. The 1831 edition technically has yet to be proofread against the scan, but is presumably from Gutenberg and has therefore been through a proofreading of some sort. If we're to pursue this we need to know which direction to proceed. We don't usually select works for PotM that are mostly or completely done. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
Then we will finish it very quickly, and can then cross the bridge of selecting a second work. We already have Dracula. What else is good (and missing) in the eerie fiction genre? BD2412 T 03:57, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Maybe fill some of the gaps in Weird Tales (assuming scans are available)? —Beleg Tâl (talk) 11:32, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good to me. BD2412 T 00:57, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
                  • If we finish the volume earlier than we would otherwise, we could validate some of the overflow works at little works. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC).
                    • The Shelley work has been completely proofread, but not validated. If it is not opposed, I will mark the work as completed (from a WS:PotM perspective), recommend the book for validation at the WikiProject, and begin the next work (Weird Tales, 31(2)). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:44, 10 October 2018 (UTC).
                      • Typically, we retain the current work until it is validated for PotM. If you are proposing a procedural change to PotM, this section is not the correct place to do so. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:55, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
                        • As I said, I can inform WS:WPV of the work, and they should be able to complete it by month’s end. As you said, I am not proposing a policy change, and, as can be seen by a number of recent previous works, the completion of works is not necessary. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
                          • If WS:WPV wants to assist with the validation, then the work will be completed sooner and we can move on to the Weird Tales after that. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:38, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

November 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

  • United States Navy, from the revolution to date (1917) (external scan)
    An illustrated history of the US Navy to 1917.

Option B[edit]

  • The Journal of John Woolman (1871) (external scan)
    If we decide not to do a Great War item, this could be a good choice. John Woolman was a Quaker whose journal and essays had a huge impact in both the US and UK. We currently have none of his writings. The 1871 edition of his Journal seems to be the definitive edition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
    • I support removing the overly specific "Great War" theme and going with this. BD2412 T 22:34, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment We have plenty of Novembers at our disposal before the 200th anniversary of the end of WW1. More than enough time for fresh new themes between now and then. The war ended 11 November 1918. I say it is significant enough to rate a PotM for this year. But if we do continue with a Great War theme, I propose we come up with a work that is not so narrow in scope as the above proposed (in option A). One that addresses the War itself, preferably one that is both objective and reflective, which may be difficult to find in public domain material published so close to the end of the War. I don't currently have a work in mind, but can look for options. I promise not to propose any works of poetry ;) Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Option C[edit]

As per my comment above in Option B, there is The War and the Future (1918) by John Masefield... a relatively short work, which could thereafter be replaced by some other work with either similar theme, or different (option B?). Londonjackbooks (talk) 04:55, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

December 2018[edit]

Option A[edit]

  • Tales of To-day and Other Days, translated from the French (1891) (external scan)
    A collection of 10 short stories by 9 French authors, many of who have little or no representation on Wikisource at present. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:21, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Option B[edit]

Calendar 2019[edit]

List[edit]

Month Work Category Status
January Quirky
February Fine arts
March Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month / Woman author
April Poetry / Drama
May Geography (North Africa?)
June Fiction: Novel
July Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion
August Biography
September Fiction (SF/Fantastical/etc.)
October Science/Technology
November Language
December Fiction: Short story collections

January 2019[edit]

February 2019[edit]

  • The Theory and Practice of Handwriting (external scan) --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:53, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
  • Japanese Wood Engravings (external scan) --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
    • I prefer the latter work, as its shorter and has fewer diagrams. They’re both rather short, however, and could be easily completed within a month. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
  • A History of Japanese Colour-Prints (external scan)–A longer work (194 pp. text), with a few images representative. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
  • A History of Wood-Engraving (external scan)–A great work on an art quickly vanishing (~200 pp.). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:54, 11 October 2018 (UTC).
  • Painting Illustrated in Three Diallogues (external scan). While there are a large number of pages (~350), their isn’t much text per page. The book is a great example of painting, and provides a great deal of information upon the subject. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 11:36, 14 October 2018 (UTC).

March 2019[edit]

April 2019[edit]

May 2019[edit]

June 2019[edit]

November 2019[edit]

I have changed this year’s November proofreading to validation so that WS:PotM can validate all of the works that it has started in previous years. The works are: Index:Life of Octavia Hill as told in her letters.djvu (May 2012); Index:The European Concert in the Eastern Question.djvu (September 2012); Index:A Treasury of South African Poetry.djvu (April 2013); Index:The Botany of the Antarctic Voyage.djvu (June 2014); Index:Mount Seir, Sinai and Western Palestine.djvu (September 2014); Index:Great Neapolitan Earthquake of 1857.djvu (March 2015); Index:Isvar Chandra Vidyasagar, a story of his life and work.djvu (June 2016); Index:The Fauna of British India, including Ceylon and Burma (Birds Vol 1).djvu (July 2016); Index:The Mythology of the Aryan Nations.djvu (August 2016); Index:Plutarch - Moralia, translator Holland, 1911.djvu (September 2016); Index:Savage Island.djvu (May 2017); Index:The Boy Travellers in the Russian Empire.djvu (May 2017); Index:The Story of Nell Gwyn.djvu (June 2017); Index:Life and Times of Frederick Douglass (1892).djvu (September 2017); Index:Vindication Women's Rights (Wollstonecraft).djvu (March 2018); Index:Modern poets and poetry of Spain.djvu (April 2018); Index:Siberia and the Exile System Vol 1.djvu (May 2018); Index:Wuthering Heights and Agnes Grey (1st edition), Volume 2 (Wuthering Heights, Volume 2).djvu (July 2018); and Index:The Sikhs (Gordon).djvu (August 2018). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 21:27, 13 October 2018 (UTC).

We used to do that every November, but declining participation led us to switch to a topic for November instead of validation. See the previous discussion on this issue below, wherein we concluded that Validation is no longer popular for PotM, since the last time we did it we validated no works that month. I have therefore changed it back on the basis of the prior community discussion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
    • I changed the topic for precisely that reason: the previous disinterest, or whatsoever caused the numerous works above to not become validated, would be greatly aided by a dedicated effort to cause those indeces to be so validated. This would forgo the need to create another index for proofreading and validation, as is the usual. The discussion has not been concluded, and your personal opinion on the matter should not influence the community’s decision; as the sole contributor to that discussion that was in favour of the alteration was you. The results of previous validation months are irrelevant, as this one is specifically dedicated to finishing works already selected for WS:PotM. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
      You misunderstand. The community discussed this issue and came to a consensus. Please do not unilaterally seek to override community consensus, but seek to change the community's opinion first. You have misinterpreted the discussion if you came away thinking that I was the sole contributor in favour of the alteration, or indeed that I was even in favour of the change. I neither proposed nor supported the change; in fact I made some suggestions concerning possible retention of the Validation month. Please re-read the discussion and re-open if you like, but changing the calendar against consensus is inappropriate.
    • The current 2019 Calendar was proposed by Beeswaxcandle, and BD2412 proposed changes for 2019 back in 2018. BD2412 and I agreed with Beeswaxcandle that the prior Validation month pattern was not successful and discussed the possibility of a separate Validation of the Month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
      • I have yet to note where the community has so come to this consensus of which you speak. The discussion has not been closed; therefore, no consensus can be derived from the discussion that it contains. I have started a discussion here as an effort to inform the community of this problem and to propose the use of a previously-implemented activity as a solution to that problem. I would also like for you to not revert my comments on this discussion, so as the community may be so informed of my proposal. If you wish to create a larger discussion on the matter, you may do so wherever you believe that such a discussion would be appropriate. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
        Wikisource does not formally close discussions in most of its pages; Featured texts, Deletions & Copyright issues are the only three fora where discussions are formally closed. Discussions that have sat idle for more than a year without comment and in which all participants were agreed are assumed to be resolved. If you would like to enact a change different from what Beeswaxcandle has proposed (and which I agree with), then you should wait for further responses before enacting changes. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
        • The discussion hasn’t had a comment in approximately three months, and not all of the participants came to an agreement. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2018 (UTC).
          Three months, yes, sorry. But the question raised was "Do we want to restore Validation month?" and no one spoke in favor of doing so. The discussion instead turned to have a separate Validation project distinct from PotM. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:02, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Books parked for consideration[edit]

Noting the list at the top of the page too
  • Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeny. In an effort to find some popular public domain publications for inclusion here at WS, I found that the HTML version of this book is the most-downloaded text at the Internet Archive. Plus, someone has already gone to the trouble of extracting and cleaning the images [10]. There is a tiny amount of text cut off on pages 63-64, but the missing letters can be determined from context and from the Archive.org HTML version --Eliyak T·C 22:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Pros:
(a) It's a key work of a great English writer;
(b) Johnson's text will be fun to read;
(c) It will add biographies of several writers.
Cons:
(a) It's in multiple volumes, so we might have to start with just the first one and see what transpires;
(b) There will be many uses of long-s and the like;
(c) We may not be able to get a first edition to work from, and I'm not sure that I could find a complete set of a single edition in IA.

Would a work of this sort ever be a good selection for PotM, and why or why not? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

  • EncycloPetey, et al, we could take one or more per month not as PoM but as something yet to be finished every month starting with the easiest and shortest texts that are not complicated to work on. For that we should have a different kind of an award, perhaps the only the image of "The Thinker" to be used. I like collecting the awards, it shows achievements as well as the dates show the years we are here working and the icon shows our work - again using only something like "The Thinker. It separates everything from PoM. It is an obvious aside from PoM. Poms are often slow anyhow so that gives us time and the PoM’s often also, well…..I dislike this word but to convey the idea, often SUCK and are boring chosen by a few, so I typically, these days, only do one or a few pages in them. I am working on 9 thick and illustrated volumes of Cassell’s Illustrated London but I would step aside and do pages on "The Thinker" (or any other icon but the same icon to stand out, each time so as not to get it mixed up with PoM. and I would expect an award for working on those extra "abandoned books" books. Something along these lines of thought. Feel free to modify. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
EncycloPetey, I think the idea of finishing "abandoned books" is a very good idea. I am working on two of them now. If we all did this together we could finish them up quick and add them to our library here. THESE should be "Proofreads of the Month" instead of finding more before we have finished these sitting here.. —Maury (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Maybe creating some sort of WikiProject regarding these abandoned or unfinished texts might be a way to get more attention to them? That project could then be listed as the existing community collaboration. Having said that, I think it might be a good idea. John Carter (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
John Carter (have you met any Terminators yet?) I figure the "abandoned books" have to have an attraction and many people like earning awards - especially "Special Awards", ["build it and they will come";] use that and they will come. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I think you meant John Connor there. :) Having said that, is there any sort of page indicating the "progress bar" or similar out on the various indexes which have been started to date? Also, maybe, having something on the community portal listing the number of completed indexes might help too. And, of course, like you said, some sort of "award" or w: Wikipedia:Barnstar available for such might be useful. Do we have any such yet here? John Carter (talk) 18:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
@John Carter:(gone to Mars yet?) I think this is a great idea. I'd participate even without a reward. Is it started yet(speaking of John Carter, are the books on him on wikisource)? JustinCB (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
I think those in the public domain are but not all are PD yet. So far as I know though the bot generating progress bars doesn't exist yet. I hope those were the answers you sought.John Carter (talk) 00:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Author:John Lloyd Stephens (listed on en WS)[edit]

Author:John Lloyd Stephens wrote several grand books and they are illustrated. Let us choose something a bit more exciting lest we have an *another* unfinished work. —Maury (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

The Tale of Old Mortality[edit]

We don't have Walter Scott's The Tale of Old Mortality, which shocked me. Actually, we have very few works by him at all, despite his stature as an English writer, but The Tale of Old Mortality (or simply Old Mortality) is considered one of his best novels, and is a pretty high-profile English novel for us to be missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, what is the url for the version you have found? I wish to look at it. —Maury (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, to clarify first off (if you didn't know), Old Mortality is one in a series of loosely associated novels collected under the title Tales of My Landlord, though each is an independent story and novel. Of the first four volumes that make up "series 1", volumes 2 through 4 are Old Mortality (volume 1 is a separate story entitled The Black Dwarf). So, here then are the first edition (1816) volumes: Vol. II, Vol. III, Vol. IV. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposal of Proofreading Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal Series in 2019[edit]

Currently, I'm not enrolled in the Proofread of the Month project, but I noticed the Journal of the Asiatic Society of Bengal series is currently not even proofread, and it consists of a large number of pages to work on. I've proofread some of the content, but I think this should be done with others. (Link of Volume 29 of the series, which I currently am working on) Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:20, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment That's a lot to do in a single month, and with complicated formatting. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:22, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment @EncycloPetey I know, but I think we can do some volumes first (like Volume 1 or 29). Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Even single volumes have complicated tables and lots of diacriticals. Works such as those usually do not attract as much participation, and remain incomplete at the end of the month. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:49, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
The lack of an text layer in the file is of concern and rules out a PotM collaboration for the time being. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 01:42, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Note: I'm now enrolled in the project now, so feel free to contact me. Albert Micah Hang (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposal to revise monthly categories for October and November[edit]

I propose that beginning next year (2019), we revise the monthly categories by eliminating "The end of the Great War" (which was topical when we were approaching the 100th anniversary of WWI, but will no longer be topical in 2019), and replace it by moving "Natural History" from October to November, and making October another fiction category, but with a focus on the fantastic (fantasy, horror, science fiction, and the supernatural). My initial thinking was to make October something more of a Halloween theme, but I realize that Halloween is not universally observed, nor is it observed the same way everywhere. Nevertheless, these themes are broadly associated with October, and I think this would be a good new tradition. I would propose starting with Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, as proposed for a different month above. BD2412 T 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Up until this year November has been designated as Validation Month—a month in which to catch up on validating several works. However, last year we completed no works, so as a one-off I went for the Great War. I've been trying to keep a broad range of domains covered in PotM and have hence kept fiction to only a couple of months each year. However, if people feel that we can sustain a third one and not have other domains lose out, then by all means we can put the fantastic into October in addition to the other two. We also need to decide if we want to restore Validation Month in 2019. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
I wasn't aware that the change was that recent. I would think that December would be a better validation month, since it is the end of the year, and seems like a time for cleaning up after ourselves. BD2412 T 01:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
We might consider separating the Validation Drive from the PotM, and having its section on the Main Page year-round. Pick and list three works separately from the PotM (maybe listed below), and rotating a new work in once one is finished. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:59, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Validation of the Month? BD2412 T 18:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
I prefer the idea of having three current titles to a single one set to rotate on a monthly basis. That way it's less formal and people have options to select from. Validation can happen at any pace, but stating that one work is "for the month" restricts what we validate. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:09, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
That is reasonable. A "validation month" is always less fun than starting a new work from the ground up. BD2412 T 03:25, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment On a related issue, I suggest broadening "natural history" to "science / natural history". --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
    • I would support that change also. BD2412 T 01:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)