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Please help start a list of text that need to be proofread. Larger text are preferred because we hope to have a large group of people working on the text of the month. Here is a great place to start looking for text to be proofread.

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A list of potential PotM candidates[edit]

On the transcription project, there is a good list of text that are ready to be proofread. That list is available here. This list continues to grow so it would be great if we could knock it down. --Mattwj2002 11:03, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

My person opinion, If people keep bringing in projects (and I have seen it) then they should do a good part of the editing. Some, whoever they are, bring in works for others to do and the work-load adds up. Too, if the texts are brought in and left for others, then others may not like the topic so the work load keeps building up. It would be nice to know [who] likes what to work on. *I* like history and specifically illustrated history* but not children’s books or poems. I have several more volumes to do and more I want to do after that. This way I work on what I brought in, or have another bring in because he/they like the same kind of work. --Maury (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Calendar 2017[edit]

List[edit]

Month Work Category Status
January Index:Treatise on Soap Making.djvu
Index:Church Seats and Kneeling Boards.djvu
Index:The Post Office of Fifty Years Ago.djvu
Index:Paper and Its Uses.djvu
Quirky Yes check.svg completed
February Index:Ragged Trousered Philanthropists.djvu Fiction Yes check.svg completed
March Index:Women Wanted.djvu Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month / Woman author Yes check.svg completed
April Index:The Book of Scottish Song.djvu Poetry / Drama Yes check.svg completed
May Index:Tourist's Maritime Provinces.djvu
Index:Savage Island.djvu
Index:The Boy Travellers in the Russian Empire.djvu
Geography (little known area) selected
June Biography
July Natural History
August Anthropology, Mythology, or Religion
September WS:RT
October Fiction (banned)
November Validation month Working on finishing proofread works
December

January 2017[edit]

  • A Treatise on Soap-making (1807) [1] 160 pp selected and now complete
  • The Mutiny of the Bengal Army (1857) [2] 62 pp already here and proofread
  • Church Seats and Kneeling Boards (1876) [3] 26 pp selected and now complete
  • The Post Office of fifty years ago (1887) (contains a reprint of Rowland Hill's proposal for Penny Post and a facsimile of the original sketch for the stamp) [4] 182 pp selected and completed
  • Old Castles (1868) [5] 92 pp
  • Instruments of the Modern Symphony Orchestra (1917) [6] 74 pp too many images and has score snippets on every second page of the body of the work—best if I do it myself
  • Paper and Its Uses: A Treatise for Printers, Stationers and Others (1914) [7] 250pp selected

February 2017[edit]

  • Robert Tressall's 1914 The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists [8] is widely regarded as a classic working-class novel Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:37, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support. We'll need to set up a style guide early on in order to alert participants to some of the dialectical spellings, places where {{' '}} is needed, and decide how to format the few letters (correspondence) which appear in the text. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support also. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 02:56, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

March 2017[edit]

  • My Own Affairs by Princess Louise of Belgium [9] gives a different perspective on the Great War and about life in a European Court. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:00, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
    While this would be a great book, the translator died in 1949 so it is not PD in life+70 jurisdictions. While that doesn't mean it can't be on Wikisource it would mean that editors from Britain and Ireland couldn't legally join in. BethNaught (talk) 10:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Maybe something by Author:Emma Orczy? John Carter (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Some more: Index:The Autobiography of an Indian Princess.djvu, Index:Arabia, Egypt, India - A Narrative of Travel.djvu, Index:Wanderings of a Pilgrim Vol 1.djvu. Hrishikes (talk) 17:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I am clearly crossing the "overkill" lines with this, but this page might have a few ideas. John Carter (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
  • I would like to propose two stories by Mary Wright Plummer (there is still no her author's page here): Roy and Ray in Mexico (on the IA: edition of 1907 — two scans — first and second; edition of 1912 — one scan), and Roy and Ray in Canada (on the IA: edition of 1908 — also two scans — first and second; edition of 1912 — also one scan). She was a prominent librarian, so she has some relation to wikisourceans (since wikisourceans are also librarians, at some bit). And, in addition, these stories likely would be interesting for inhabitants of US (for which Mexico and Canada are neighbors) and Canada (one of the described countries), of which there are many of readers and editors of the en-WS. P. S. Since these books could be easily considered as "lighter works", I don't anyhow oppose if it happens that they are to be moved for December. --Nigmont (talk) 21:29, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
  • It seems that current selection for the March — Women Wanted — will be done soon... In addition to my proposal(s) above: I have created the authors page for Mary Wright Plummer, and uploaded to the Commons scans of both of those works (now they could be found in the commons:Category:Mary Wright Plummer texts (English)). If current absence of the pageindexes is the major problem of my proposals then I could easily fix that problem and create those indexes, if it would help to the nomination. And thanks to EncycloPetey for the comment below. --Nigmont (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Most of these suggestions are fiction, which is outside the remit of the topic of Women's History, (or there are problems with the Index: that need to be fixed before making a PotM). I propose that one of the following be chosen: Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
    Economic Effects of the World War on Women and Children in Great Britain (WWI)
    Women Wanted (WWI)
    Under the Guns (US Civil War)
    • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The "Women's History" is a Wikipedia effort. In the past, we have gone with any book authored by a woman, and have not limited our selection beyond that. That is: a popular or significant book authored by a woman is part of "Women's History", and our selection does not have to be a book about women in history. --EncycloPetey (talk)

I would support Women Wanted (being the 100th anniv. of American involvement in the War). The particular version linked to above, however, has missing text issues. I would choose another IA version of the same work. There are several, and one version I came across contains illustrations [10]. I checked the text for errors, and all seems in order. Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:24, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg selected Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:09, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree, it looks like an excellent book with quality photos. —Maury (talk) 00:03, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

April 2017[edit]

I don't sure that this proposal would be generally accepted because of large size of the book, and that many people may be required to complete proofreading it (600 pages in a month is about 20 pages to be proofread daily — that is at least 2-4 people working on proofread at daily basis); but as of me personally — if this work would be selected than I try to participate on it (provided that I would not be busy IRL or elsewhere in that time), I think that a book of national songs tends to be interesting at the most instances. --Nigmont (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
Both The Book of Scottish Song and Sisyphys have layout issues that make them problematic for PotM. Can I suggest we have a go at Women's Voices? It's an anthology of 85 poets and about 200 poems, published in 1887. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:51, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Could you give a more specific criticism than "layout issues"? I know of nothing in Sisyphus that would be more of a layout problem than what I see in your suggestion. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:10, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
It's more about the problems of ensuring consistency of approach throughout. Sisyphus has three different speech layouts (on page 8 all of them) that will need careful consideration on how best to approach them and still make the transclusion look OK. For Scottish Song the double-columns, page borders (in multiple colours), headings in blackletter, and prefatory remarks at the head of most poems on top of the dialect makes this one challenging to get consistency across multiple editors who aren't invested in the work. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:47, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
I see only 2 speech layouts done according to a single rule: If the first line of the speech begins as a new line of text, it begins on the line below the name of the speaker, but if the first line of the speech continues a previous line, then it is indented to follow from the previous line and the speaker's name appears on the same line. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:52, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Length is not my consideration here. We did indeed knock off a long work quite quickly in March. However, that was prose and we're looking a poetry this month, which is harder to work quickly on by dint of the indents. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:47, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree with Billinghurst that 600 pages is not a problem. If there is a consistent poetic style to be applied (or a small number to be applied consistently), I think was can still do that. BD2412 T 22:17, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
<shrug> In that case Index:The Book of Scottish Song.djvu is selected. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 00:06, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
We should add formatting guidance to the Talk page, if it is not already being done. Someone with knowledge of the nature of the book (with reference to poetry formatting, sectioning, etc.). I have not yet looked it over very thoroughly myself, but will... Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:23, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
EncycloPetey said they would leave guidance once they have taken a look around a bit more. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:38, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017[edit]

Smuggling from St. Pierre-Miquelon available at archive.org here. They don't get much more "little known" than w:Saint Pierre and Miquelon. Maybe with one of a few other works on the same area available at archive.org, of which The tourist's Maritime Provinces : with chapters on the Gaspé shore, Newfoundland and Labrador and the Miquelon Islands here seems most substantial. Maybe alternatively adding something like Basil Thompson's Savage Island about Niue and Tonga, available here, because Niue might be one of the few places less known than Saint Pierre and Miquelon. John Carter (talk) 17:51, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Alternately, Author:Robert Henry Codrington's The Melanesians: Studies in their Anthropology and Folk-Lore, which has a scan available at archive.org, is still counted among the leading anthropological works, specifically in the anthropology of religion subfield, out there. John Carter (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- The "Smuggling" text in archive.org looks rather bad, as far as the ocr-text is concerned.
- "Tourist's Maritime Provinces" (516 pages) and "Savage Island" (290 pages) look much better.
- The Melanesians is also good quality, has 450 pages. --Dick Bos (talk) 09:42, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support for all suggestions above, if the scans are up to par, with preference to Smuggling and Tourist's Maritime Provinces due to a slight personal bias towards Canadian geography :) —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:09, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

The Tourist's Maritime Provinces is selected as the first work, with Savage Island as the second. Let's keep Smuggling for January when we're doing shorter works (there's only about 10 pages of text). Also, I'll put The Melanesians into August as the second work of anthropology. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:51, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Whizzed through the two works fairly quickly, so I've thrown in a more complex book in for the rest of the month, that looks at the Russian Empire in the late 19th Century from a American tourist perspective. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:06, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

June 2017[edit]

Symbol support vote.svg Support, a good choice. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 12:10, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

July 2017[edit]

This July marks the 200th birthday of Henry David Thoreau, one of the most widely read and remembered American naturalists. Yet we do not have his book The Maine Woods (1864). --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:20, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

As a second July work, if time, I propose Thoreau's A Week on the Concord and Merrimack Rivers (1849). It should be relatively easy to proofread by July (formatting-wise), for I am chipping away at the pages containing Thoreau's poetry. It would be good to have Walden scan-backed—some day. Londonjackbooks (talk) 00:35, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
Looks good, support. John Carter (talk) 18:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

A different suggestion: we could use some help with Audubon's Ornithological Biography, vol. 2 (and the following volumes, too, of course!) --Dick Bos (talk) 20:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Symbol support vote.svg Support as third work if necessary —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:38, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

August 2017[edit]

[Copied from December 2016 proposals]
I would like to propose Lynn Thorndike's The Place of Magic in the Intellectual History of Europe, The Columbia University Press, 1905. Probably other two works by him: The History of Medieval Europe, 1917, and Medieval Europe, its Development & Civilization, 1920, could be interesting as well, but it seems to me that they both are too large (each is more than 700 pages) for the Proofread of the Month. --Nigmont (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

This is certainly an interesting book, but I think the subject matter is a bit heavy for December when we usually look for lighter material. I propose that we keep this work for our Anthropology month in 2017. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:19, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
All right then, I gladly agree to move this work for consideration for the Anthropology month (August) in 2017. --Nigmont (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg SupportBeleg Tâl (talk) 20:15, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support John Carter (talk) 23:55, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

[Copied from February 2017 proposals]

[Copied from May 2017 proposals] Author:Robert Henry Codrington's The Melanesians: Studies in their Anthropology and Folk-Lore, which has a scan available at archive.org, is still counted among the leading anthropological works, specifically in the anthropology of religion subfield, out there. John Carter (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Second work for month Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:38, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

September 2017[edit]

October 2017[edit]

This month, I suggest we commemorate the 150th birthday of the Australian novelist and writer Guy Newell Boothby by putting one or more of his works up. We have virtually nothing right now. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Any particular works specifically come to mind? John Carter (talk) 21:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
If needed, I can hunt down specific recommendations, but thought I'd leave that choice to other people first who might know more than I do. I'm familiar with his work only in the most general way. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Specific suggestion: A Bid for Fortune, the first of his Dr. Nikola novels. --EncycloPetey (talk) 06:20, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support works for me. John Carter (talk) 01:38, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

December 2017[edit]

January 2018[edit]

  • The Language of the Eye: The importance and dignity of the eye as indicative of general character, female beauty, and manly genius (1856) by Author:Joseph Turnley (External scan) "Untechnical" relatively short work (90pp) with some illustration and poetry. Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Symbol support vote.svg Support, an excellent eye-dea. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Books parked for consideration[edit]

Noting the list at the top of the page too
  • Amusements in Mathematics by Henry Ernest Dudeny. In an effort to find some popular public domain publications for inclusion here at WS, I found that the HTML version of this book is the most-downloaded text at the Internet Archive. Plus, someone has already gone to the trouble of extracting and cleaning the images [11]. There is a tiny amount of text cut off on pages 63-64, but the missing letters can be determined from context and from the Archive.org HTML version --Eliyak T·C 22:52, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Pros:
(a) It's a key work of a great English writer;
(b) Johnson's text will be fun to read;
(c) It will add biographies of several writers.
Cons:
(a) It's in multiple volumes, so we might have to start with just the first one and see what transpires;
(b) There will be many uses of long-s and the like;
(c) We may not be able to get a first edition to work from, and I'm not sure that I could find a complete set of a single edition in IA.

Would a work of this sort ever be a good selection for PotM, and why or why not? --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:12, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

  • EncycloPetey, et al, we could take one or more per month not as PoM but as something yet to be finished every month starting with the easiest and shortest texts that are not complicated to work on. For that we should have a different kind of an award, perhaps the only the image of "The Thinker" to be used. I like collecting the awards, it shows achievements as well as the dates show the years we are here working and the icon shows our work - again using only something like "The Thinker. It separates everything from PoM. It is an obvious aside from PoM. Poms are often slow anyhow so that gives us time and the PoM’s often also, well…..I dislike this word but to convey the idea, often SUCK and are boring chosen by a few, so I typically, these days, only do one or a few pages in them. I am working on 9 thick and illustrated volumes of Cassell’s Illustrated London but I would step aside and do pages on "The Thinker" (or any other icon but the same icon to stand out, each time so as not to get it mixed up with PoM. and I would expect an award for working on those extra "abandoned books" books. Something along these lines of thought. Feel free to modify. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
EncycloPetey, I think the idea of finishing "abandoned books" is a very good idea. I am working on two of them now. If we all did this together we could finish them up quick and add them to our library here. THESE should be "Proofreads of the Month" instead of finding more before we have finished these sitting here.. —Maury (talk) 21:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Maybe creating some sort of WikiProject regarding these abandoned or unfinished texts might be a way to get more attention to them? That project could then be listed as the existing community collaboration. Having said that, I think it might be a good idea. John Carter (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
John Carter (have you met any Terminators yet?) I figure the "abandoned books" have to have an attraction and many people like earning awards - especially "Special Awards", ["build it and they will come";] use that and they will come. —Maury (talk) 17:38, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
I think you meant John Connor there. :) Having said that, is there any sort of page indicating the "progress bar" or similar out on the various indexes which have been started to date? Also, maybe, having something on the community portal listing the number of completed indexes might help too. And, of course, like you said, some sort of "award" or w: Wikipedia:Barnstar available for such might be useful. Do we have any such yet here? John Carter (talk) 18:15, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Author:John Lloyd Stephens (listed on en WS)[edit]

Author:John Lloyd Stephens wrote several grand books and they are illustrated. Let us choose something a bit more exciting lest we have an *another* unfinished work. —Maury (talk) 18:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

The Tale of Old Mortality[edit]

We don't have Walter Scott's The Tale of Old Mortality, which shocked me. Actually, we have very few works by him at all, despite his stature as an English writer, but The Tale of Old Mortality (or simply Old Mortality) is considered one of his best novels, and is a pretty high-profile English novel for us to be missing. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, what is the url for the version you have found? I wish to look at it. —Maury (talk) 22:16, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
Well, to clarify first off (if you didn't know), Old Mortality is one in a series of loosely associated novels collected under the title Tales of My Landlord, though each is an independent story and novel. Of the first four volumes that make up "series 1", volumes 2 through 4 are Old Mortality (volume 1 is a separate story entitled The Black Dwarf). So, here then are the first edition (1816) volumes: Vol. II, Vol. III, Vol. IV. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:57, 11 July 2013 (UTC)