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Opposite of {{nop}}?[edit]

Is there an opposite of {{nop}}? Something that will force elements together, like {{hws}}, but for whole pages or sections. I ask because I'm making extensive use of the {{iwpage}} template family: for a concrete example of the problem of transcluding "foreign" Wikisource pages, see this page (the ref should be right after the French text, not a few lines after it). Pinging @John Vandenberg, original creator of the hsw template page. NMaia (talk) 22:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

We haven't made much use of those templates here because of the problems they create. The template creates a section using CSS coding that would be difficult (or impossible) to override. It's a question of placing content after a container tag, but wanting that content to appear within the container tags. I'm not sure that's even possible. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:01, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
@EncycloPetey: thanks for the prompt reply. If that's the case, how would you have handled a multilingual page like that? Apart from the trailing whitespace, I've had no problems so far. NMaia (talk) 23:25, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
Multilingual works are either transcribed locally, or else hosted entirely on the multilingual Wikisource. We don't usually half-host works in that way or transclude works that have been transcribed remotely. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
@NMaia: And just in case you weren't aware, that is here: s:mul:. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:19, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
I was aware of mul, but to me it seems a little unsatisfying to have a text there, away from most target-language reviewers :/ NMaia (talk) 10:06, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
@NMaia: Do you have a better solution? —Justin (koavf)TCM 17:43, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
Not for this problem specifically but in general interwiki transclusion has been working well, so I guess I'll stick with that. There could be an issue with Index:Onovoguiadaconve00fons.pdf however, which seems to be entirely bilingual... In that case I suppose mul would be better. NMaia (talk) 19:58, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
I don't know enough about how complicated things can get to have an idea how badly this would break everything, but would a template that wraps everything in a classed div with a rule in a sitewide stylesheet that all its descendants be display: inline; work for this specific single block of text scenario? Looks like the HTML output is just separate divs and ps dividing things, there's a <br /> too but I think that's from the shorthand Labeled Section Transclusion including linebreaks between sections. Prosody (talk) 07:03, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment You are trying to fight the laws of html. We are dealing with <div>-<div> formatting, not <span>, so it will never work by templating methodology with separation.

    I would have thought it straightforward in that the ref should have been in the text at frWS. It is what I have gone and done with it. Works should stay true to their texts, and putting a small ref into another wiki seems incongruous to me. We have plenty of texts where a small component is in another language. The use of that interwiki is more aligned with a text like File:République Française - Constitution - 1848.djvubillinghurst sDrewth 10:04, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Advice on image with lots of text[edit]

I am proofreading a book which includes many images which incorporate text. Many of these are construction schematics with handwritten notes. Could I have some advice on how I should plan to process these? Consider this sample page:

Should I -

  1. Crop the images with the image text from the book then place them into the pages (easiest and most true to source)
  2. Crop the images from the book, erase the image text, then reproduce the image text in a more clear modern font and insert that new text into a modified image for Wikisource
  3. Crop the images from the book, erase the image text, then transcribe the image text into Wikisource even when there is no good way in Wikisource to place it as it was in the original
  4. Do a mix of keeping images with text and transcribing text at my discretion

Can anyone show a similar case and how it resolved? Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:47, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

I download the .jp2 (high resolution) file from Internet Archive, delete the text pages, and convert the pages containing the images to greyscale .jpg or .png. using Irfanview. Then trim, clean and name them as required, and upload them to the Wikimedia commons. When there are multiple images on a page, I replicate the page for the number of images and name each separately. However, I avoid using books scanned by Google because they destroy them. Look for another copy on the Internet Archive to use for the images. — Ineuw talk 00:27, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
@Ineuw: I just checked the Internet Archive again. The only copy there that I can find is this one, which I uploaded. I get the bit about the cleanup and upload to Commons. Do you have any comments about all the text in the images? Should I treat that as part of the image, or does anyone transcribe that somehow? Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:24, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry: If the text is within the image it is part of the image, captions are proofread in Wikisource. See this image on this page although, in this case, there is no caption. — Ineuw talk 01:41, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
@Bluerasberry: Whilst not appropriate in this instance be aware if a small amount of text needs to be overlaid on a clean image these templates may be useful: {{overfloat image}} and the {tl|flow under}} family. 09:29, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

YesY Okay, thanks, I can see the examples you shared and now I understand how this works. This all makes sense. In my case, the text is part of the images and I should isolate the images+image text from the body, clean those, then re-insert. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:45, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Page load problem[edit]

Is there anything can be done to eliminate multiple clicks on the edit button for the scan to appear? I have to do this 600+ times per volume. Have purged, hard purged and null edited the Index page but it helps none. Also, the page status colors disappear after a few minutes so I must go through the same procedure. — Ineuw talk 00:13, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

The clock and purge gadget is the quickest workaround for these issues that I have found. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:00, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Is Wikisource the place to post this public domain book 📖 that's already hosted on another website?[edit]

Hello 👋🏻 everyone,

My name is Donald “the Don” Trung, I’m not really familiar with Wikisource or how it works. My home 🏠 wiki is Wikimedia Commons and uploading images is very different from uploading books 📚. Well, from what I’ve read on Wikipedia Wikisource is “the place where you dump original research that shouldn't be on Wikipedia” and from what I could find this project is very template-centric. I personally love using templates if they’re efficient but I’m honestly confused as to how importing pages and the like goes but I’ll put that aside and get right to the point as to what I wish 🌠 to do here.

There is a book 🕮 known as Annam and its minor currency (hosted on Art-Hanoi, a website owned by Sema/w:en:User:Pyvanet/Commons:User:Pyvanet~Commonswiki) that was published in 1882. Though the author was of Hispanic origin (which would make the book copyrighted until 2022 if it were published in his home country) it was actually published in Shanghai and is now in the public domain. As the link 🔗 shows the book (in its full form) is already hosted on another website, I don't own a physical copy of it to scan and I already have a batch request on Wikimedia Commons to download images from the book. So we’ve established that this book is in fact not copyrighted, does that mean that it's within the scope of Wikisource?

Does the fact that it's hosted on another website mean that It’s ineligible to be “copied over” to Wikisource? Or can I copy the book 📖 and publish it here? If I can upload it here, would I have to properly attribute the website where it's currently hosted on?

Sent from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 11:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

@Donald Trung: a book being hosted elsewhere has no bearing on if it's appropriate for Wikisource. In fact, many of our books are also found on other sites, such as the Internet Archive or Project Gutenberg. —Justin (koavf)TCM 21:13, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
@Donald Trung: If a published book is in PD in the US, we will usually be willing to host it here, provided that the book is written in English. If it is also PD in its country of publication, then any scans and images are hosted at Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:33, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Well, the book is PD in China (it was first published in Shanghai, Qing Dynasty) and it's written in English. The author (Eduardo Toda y Güell) is Hispanic and under Hispanic copyright © laws it would still be copyrighted until 2022 but it was published in China and those United States of America in 1882. Further I have a couple of questions, but I will save this now as my wireless telephone is prone to crashing and signing me out. -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 10:20, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
(1) Should I attribute Art-Hanoi when copying the book? (also note that Sema/Pyvanet~Commonswiki added the numbers from the book 📖 Historical cash coins of Viet Nam by Dr. R. Allen Barker and I will remove those), (2) Should I make every chapter a template? (or however that is called in Wikisource-speak) and if so, can I re-use the manner it is currently organised in Art-Hanoi? (3) As I don't own a physical copy, can I just create a book 📖 in raw text without having something (like an image/scan) to compare it to?
Disclaimer: I am not employed by, or otherwise affiliated with Art-Hanoi, I did not conjure up the ghost 👻 of Eduardo Toda y Güell and asked him to pay me in ghost-dollars to "spam" his book, and the usual disclaimers. This is completely voluntary and I personally have no direct financial benefit out of hosting that book from 1802 here (other than it being a PD wharez eBook). -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 10:27, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
(1) Yes, if the copy you create on Wikisource is based on the Art-Hanoi version instead of a scan, you would use the template {{textinfo}} to indicate this on the page Talk:Annam and its Minor Currency.
(2) Every chapter would be a sub-page. For example, the front matter would go at Annam and its Minor Currency, then Chapter I would go at Annam and its Minor Currency/Chapter 1, then Annam and its Minor Currency/Chapter 2 and so forth.
(3) Scan-backed works are very much preferred, but scans are not necessary if they are not available.
Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
"The author died in 1941, so this work is in the public domain in its country of origin and other countries and areas where the copyright term is the author's life plus 75 years or less.
This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1923." (4) Should I place this somewhere in the book? -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 10:37, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes, absolutely. You would do this by placing the text {{PD/1923|1941}} at the bottom of the work's main page. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
The book also isn't complete on Art-Hanoi, this chapter has been replaced by a search engine rather than listing the years and chronology of Vietnamese/Annamese history, (5) can I still copy the rest of the book and place a note that this chapter is incomplete? -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 13:49, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Works that are incomplete and based on incomplete sources are discouraged and might be deleted if there is no way to complete the work. I recommend that you find a complete source before you start setting up a copy on Wikisource. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Could I otherwise temporarily copy and add the correct markup in my own userspace and then attempt to acquire an actual copy of the book? Otherwise I could ask the owner of the website to mail me an image of those pages as he himself was active on Wikimedia projects sharing things from it (many of which are still used in many articles today), the book is a numismatic one and one could say that the calendar 📅 isn't paramount to the numismatic content but that wouldn't render the current work hosted on Art-Hanoi as any less complete, I'll await feedback here before copying any material over. -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 11:26, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
I think that's a great idea. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 06:36, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, this section can be market as "Resolved ✅" or something. And thank everyone for their help, I will work on the project in the (not ao?) near future when I'll find the time, and I will attempt to contact Sema/Pyvanet~Commonsiwki a bit sooner. -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 10:13, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
(IMO the Art-Hanoi digitization is already so well done that I see little point in redoing the work here. Suzukaze-c (talk) 04:32, 3 December 2017 (UTC))
I honestly would agree, but in my years of browsing the internet I would often find websites disappear one day for whatever reason, for that reason I used all of Gary Ashenazy's information 🛈 from Primal Trek, Dr. Luke Roberts from the University of California at Santa Barbara, Etc. And there is little to no chance of Wikimedia ever closing down so it would better be hosted here in the interest of preserving knowledge. -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 11:23, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Also I am not arguing that Wikimedia projects should serve as "an internet within the internet" or as "a free hosting/back-up programme" (which are both admittedly already done), but the book still is an important work for the non-Vietnamese and non-French speaking communities interested in Vietnamese cash coins and has great historical and (somewhat outdated) educational value. Currently information on cash coins is already thoroughly collected on Wikipedia, and many images are on Wikimedia Commons (both I have had a hand in), but historical works as this have only served as a reference point while their preservation in their entirety would also be quote useful. -- Donald Trung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 11:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Very true. Suzukaze-c (talk) 20:52, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

How to delete this page?[edit]

Do not know why but this page Page:Pywikibot_test_page_1/1 cannot be displayed any longer. Any clue how how to delete it? Thanks.— Mpaa (talk) 20:46, 1 December 2017 (UTC) may work. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Not for me.— Mpaa (talk) 20:59, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Weird. I tried MassDelete and it failed too, "Page:Pywikibot_test_page_1/1: [WiHVmApAEDQAAEv00JIAAAAL] Exception caught: Call to a member function exists() on a non-object (boolean)" —Beleg Tâl (talk) 22:21, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Contact a dev or something lol, good heavens Suzukaze-c (talk) 03:24, 3 December 2017 (UTC)— Mpaa (talk) 18:30, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Works of unknown date[edit]

I'm considering working on this set of pamphlets by Hypatia Bradlaugh Bonner. They're definitely PD, since they were printed by Charles Bradlaugh, who died in 1891, but they are not dated. Context puts them between 1865 and 1891, and IA claims they're from the 1880s. I've searched online and not found any more reliable information. So my question is, how should I present the date on the relevant Wikisource pages? BethNaught (talk) 10:42, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I'd put c. 1880, but I don't know if that's the best solution. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:19, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
As the exact year is not known but the decade is (potentially) known, the obvious solution is to put 1880s. Hrishikes (talk) 00:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
FWIW Open Library claims "first published in 1880." 03:47, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
That source is unreliable. They site IA and LC Online. LC, on its turn, cites IA and HathiTrust, who give 188? as the date. Hrishikes (talk) 05:02, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
Without any indication of why IA says 1880s, I prefer the c. 1880 suggestion—it preserves the 1880s-ness without mandating it, and falls near the middle of the date range. Thanks to both for your input. BethNaught (talk) 16:58, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Where can I find a guide[edit]

As I am still bust with translating a very looooong article, and I will want to make two (2) new articles for Dutch Wikipedia before I'm "finished" there I don't plan on being active here very soon (probably only in April or May), so I was just looking for style guides to make templates and such similar to "Art of War (Sun)" but I honestly seem to be lost on how to insert things like chapters and use "Template:DEFAULTSORT" for things like that, when I searched for Wikisource:Books I still couldn't find any guides explain how to make separate pages, should age page be called "a template"? I saw file names like ".dsjv" (I should've drafted this as I can't go to a new tab without this one force-reloading and deleting all my questions, it could've been ".djvi" or something), should I use that for non-imported works too? (as in works without a scan accompanying them) and should the (expired) copyright be noted on each individual page or just "the cover"? -- DonTrung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 10:33, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

That's a lot of questions. First: Do you have a scan uploaded to Commons from the original article? What you do (and the answer you get) will depend on whether or not you are working from a scanned copy at Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:06, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
Most unfortunately I do not own a physical copy myself to scan, so I will be working off a web-host. -- DonTrung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 10:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Please help with creating djvu-file: Bevan (1894) - Willliam Petty[edit]

Can anyone please help me with creating a djvu-file, or explain me how I have to do it….

It is about:

Bevan, Wilson Lloyd (1894) - Sir William Petty: A Study in English Economic Literature. It is published in vol 9 of Publications of the American Economic Association (1894).

It is available on in five parts:

Al these parts have a jstor-page as the first page.

How can I create one file (with blank pages 6 and 8) from this, which I can upload to commons?

Thanks, --Dick Bos (talk) 14:25, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done And uploaded as File:Sir William Petty - A Study in English Economic Literature - 1894.djvu. I inserted placeholders for pages 6 and 8 from File:Generic placeholder page.djvu.
For future reference, the method is to use the "djvm" tool, with the "-d" option to remove the first pages, then "-i" to insert. If you work from the back, you can keep inserting at page 1 and save yourself the brain ache of working out the page indices:
djvm -d p1-4.djvu 1
djvm -d p5.djvu 1
djvm -d p7.djvu 1
djvm -d p9-12.djvu 1
djvm -d p13-102.djvu 1
cp p13-102.djvu Complete.djvu
djvm -i Complete.djvu p9-12.djvu 1
djvm -i Complete.djvu Placeholder.djvu 1
djvm -i Complete.djvu p7.djvu 1
djvm -i Complete.djvu Placeholder.djvu 1
djvm -i Complete.djvu p5.djvu 1
djvm -i Complete.djvu p1-4.djvu 1
Hope that's useful! Inductiveloadtalk/contribs 17:58, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Wow! That's not useful.... It's wonderful! Inductiveload, Thank you very much. In the near future I'll try to use the djvm tool (perhaps first on a easier thing)! Thanks again for your quick answer. I'll start working on the text tomorrow. --Dick Bos (talk) 20:09, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
BTW, this all is needed to strip the first Watermark page from files.— Mpaa (talk) 22:40, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Localising two files[edit]

Hi, I have recently imported some items from the Internet Archive mostly related to Cornwall, @ShakespeareFan00: has been helping me and says that commons:File:Cornwall (Mitton).djvu and commons:File:The Cornwall coast.djvu need to localised on English Wikisource as PD-US (pre 1923) but not PD-UK/PD-70 due to the authors death dates and therefore can't host them on commons. (see commons:User talk:Arthur Kerensa), could you please help me with this? (I asked EncycloPetey first). Arthur Kerenſa 16:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

@Arthur Kerensa: If we have the creation of the requisite index: page here, then that creates a link from here to the commons file, and that is a helpful start. At Commons, mark the files as {{PD-US-1923-abroad-delete}}, and then usually ping someone like me (both enWS and Commons admin) and we will get them moved over for you. Note: the Oauth process that allows easy moves is broken at the moment, so I cannot identify when the tool will be available and confirm when the files will be moved, BUT with the file link existing between Commons and enWS, we can watch maintenance too if someone prematurely deletes the file. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
OK, I have tagged them on commons and started index pages but I have not pinged any admins yet.
Commons pages
Index pages
> Arthur Kerenſaspeak 12:45, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
  • @Billinghurst: Hi, is the Oauth uploader working again? Because the files are about to be deleted from commons. Arthur Kerenſaspeak 00:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Incorrectly rotated scans[edit]

Hello 👋🏻 everybody,

Thanks to the helpful Slowking4 I was advised to download Eduardo Toda y Güell’s Annam and its minor currency 💲 (see my user talk page), and after asking Sema from Art-Hanoi for some scans he alerted me to Google Books (and other websites) to no avail. Later after searching myself I found a website and another website that advised me to download the text from the book here and the illustrations from the book here. Now as y'all can see these copies aren’t properly rotated, I find it sad that while I can easily download pirated good books 📚 that a century old public domain book is rotated this oddly, now I am not familiar as to what tools I have to use to rotate this book, can I let these files be rotated on Wikimedia Commons?

Now by coincidence is also a forum I’ve been a member of for years, and from what I’ve read there this is currently the only downloadable .pdf of Eduardo Toda y Güell’s Annam and its minor currency online, well until I’ll upload it here of course smiley , but I am not sure if the .pdf’s I’ve linked above are usable, I already have the raw texts and importing them won't be that difficult, but like Dick Grayson these scans simply can’t cut the mustard and I have no idea if the rotation tool from Wikimedia Commons works on text files 📁. Also the images from the illustrations are oddly absent from the first .pdf so I'm not sure if Pyvanet~commonswiki/Sema adapted these for Art-Hanoi or if simply these copies from Viet-Numis aren’t accurate. Would it still be wise to import these, or should I try to find some better scans?

Internet Archives link 🔗 for reference: Annam and its minor currency and the illustrations of the Annamese/Vietnamese cash coins.

Internet Archives .pdf’s: Text and Cash coins.

Sent from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. -- DonTrung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 09:57, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Update: According to this entry on eBay the way Annam and its minor currency is shown on Art-Hanoi is correct, so the scans I have are of a variant where the images of the cash coins are separated for some reason, still import these to Wikimedia Commons?

P.S. This link will be completely useless to any WikiHistorian reading this years from now, in case you are reading this years from the day this was posted deep in the archives you can probably find Art-Hanoi in the internet archives to get this reference. smiley -- DonTrung (徵國單)  (討論 🤙🏻) (方孔錢 ☯) 09:57, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Unknown unicode symbol needs to be identified[edit]

Can someone please help to identify the Unicode symbol for the "sideways ribbon" symbol In the middle of this page? — Ineuw talk 21:39, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

It kind of means a number trending to infinity. ∝ is "proportional to" and is the reverse at U+221D. You might have to use the inverted version. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:22, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Compare with similar formula here (where you were happy to accept the symbol as infinity.) Also the context is crystalline symmetries - so any thought of proportionality is inappropriate. It is a damaged typeslug "infinity sign" (&infin;) — that is all. 23:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
It's obviously not a damaged typeslug, because a damaged typeslug could only appear once per page. I don't know what it is, but it was obviously intended to be the shape it is. , which lets you draw a Unicode character, doesn't turn up anything useful.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:49, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
I owe a big thanks to all of you. After searching "inverse proportional to", there is no symbol for it, but the symbol used on that page may have been intended to be as such in 1911. Also, interestingly, U+221D is classified as one of the mirrored characters but without a mirror. There are a number of questions (and replies) about this on the web. My options are to use the infinity symbol, or insert a .jpg image of the complete formula.
My Heroes of the day
Ineuw talk 06:12, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
Mirrored means that when it's used in a right-to-left context, like Arabic, it will be mirrored. Theoretically, you could surround it by the appropriate direction switching marks; in theory, if handled correctly, that would work.--

Prosfilaes (talk) 08:37, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I uploaded and inserted the images of the formulæ and replaced all occurrences in the article. — Ineuw talk 10:20, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

Text color[edit]

Is there a simple means to match the text color on this page Page:Fifth String (Sousa 1902).djvu/15 ?

The standard <font color="COLORNAME">TEXT</font> doesn't work because the text is centered, but I'm drawing a mental blank on how to cope with that. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:58, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Use {{red}} Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:20, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Also noting that <font> is now problematic coding, so using the templates (css compliant), and entering a colour is the preferred methodology. Noting that we have {{color}} for all variations. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:12, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
Using which templates, and entering a color how? I don't understand what you mean. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
OK, I think I figured out what you were saying. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
I have standardised each of the templates to now call {{color}} as the parent, which should make it easy to generate an alternate, if needed. I have also updated the documentation to be a cut and paste job. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:27, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Well that is just wonderful. Your new design now results in documentation for every colour stating (irrespective of actual hue): "Creates blue text." and then proceeds to give an example of the correct customised nature. Got the bluuueeesssss? 04:02, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
So I missed one, sue me. Fixed. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:33, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
Why would I sue you? You responded to an error report and even took on change the change suggested thus performing a review function as well. Welcome to the world of collaborative community quality control. Remember to duck your head because the (cheap) contractor we used installed the doors to specification not requirement. 22:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)


Please get the name right !

(it is NOT "Wittengenstein".) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

You will need to provide more context. If you are referring to Author:Ludwig Josef Johann Wittgenstein, you will notice that his name is spelled correctly. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:25, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm guessing this about File:Wittengenstein - Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus, 1922.djvu. I don't think it should be moved; it's a lot of work to correct a name not visible to readers.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:03, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
To the random IP address. The name in the file does not appear in the production of the work to the main namepsace, and as such it is a significant amount of work to rename the pages, and where the pages are transcluded, for little to no true benefit. Please free to add a note to the file or its talk page pointing to any spelling mistake. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:29, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

I need to create an author.[edit]

The Imperial Dictionary of Universal Biography (1876 edition) has over 250 unique author-ID's for the nearly 17000 signed biographies. Appearing only in Volume 1, "A. M." has 160 contributions. In the List of Contributors his description reads thus: Alexander Muir, Translator of Gregorovius' "Wanderings in Corsica." There is an WikiSource author named Alexander Muir, but I feel certain he cannot be the correct person. "Wanderings in Corsica" was published in Edinburgh is 1855. The earlier (1857-63) edition of The Imperial Dictionary of Universal Biography also contains the "A. M." contributions. So far I have found no means to discover a birth-or-death-date for IDUB's Alexander Muir, and have I found only these two titles in which he was involved. What methods might yield a sufficient information to authenticate this author of 160 additional published items? Klarm768 (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

Two quick ways that I look for authors: (1) If I know the name of a work, I will search the Internet Archive of Google Books to find biographical data. (2) If I know some likely personal details, or a publication date, I may search Wikidata or Wikipedia in case someone has started an entry there. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:40, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
If it is impossible to identify further information about this author, a page could be created at Author:Alexander Muir (fl. 1855-1876). —Beleg Tâl (talk) 21:31, 10 January 2018 (UTC)