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Martha j. Lamb[edit]

"the Christmas owl"--I'm looking for a picture of this book and value

Thanks Walker

War Diary of the 8th Field Regiment in WO 169/1447[edit] I uploaded a pdf and photographs here of the original document in the National Archives from War Diary of the 8th Field Regiment in WO 169/1447. Someone suggested I upload them here too, how do I do that? Thanks Keith-264 (talk) 16:40, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

@Keith-264: there is no need to upload the files here once they are uploaded at Commons. It may be that they were suggesting that the document could be set up to be transcribed and reproduced like many of our other works. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:02, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
I have also double-checked your uploads to Commons and don't see the war diary there. Can you give a specific link to the file (prepend the link with a colon) and we can give an opinion on what might be possible. Oh I see that you have deleted the pdf file, so maybe the request is redundant. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:05, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Reliability/validity of Franco-German Armistice[edit]

Please see Talk:Franco-German Armistice#Provenance and reliability for a question on the reliability of the content at Franco-German Armistice. In brief, can this document be trusted? Is it a translation by an editor? Mathglot (talk) 02:33, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Appears to have been answered in situbillinghurst sDrewth 12:36, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Searching for a project[edit]

In the past, I've been able to put, in the search box, Index:[name] or part of name, and the system started to suggest possibilities that I may be interested in. Starting today, that no longer works. To have to go to category:index (whatever status) and then find what I want does not seem to be quite right. Any ideas? Humbug26 (talk) 02:18, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Typeahead function still works for me. Local slowness for you? — billinghurst sDrewth 12:28, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't think I have local slowness. When I type in category:index, I immediately get the list to choose from. On further checking, I've found when I type in index:[beginning letter], I get no results with letters C,D,E,H,I,J,K,M,Q,U,V,W,X,Y,Z. I get one result only with letters A,B,F,G,L,N. I get from 2 to 10 results with letters O,P,R,S,T. This is way too odd. It's almost like the search function is linked to only those projects that only certain people have worked on.(?) I can give you the list of 36 titles I see, either here or in an email if you are in any way interested. Otherwise I'll chalk this reduction in capability as non-essential and find the projects I'm working on the long way around. Humbug26 (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Typeahead for me is not problematic in any sense. Typing Index:Ch ... Index:Di ... Index:Ho pops up instant choices for me. <shrug> — billinghurst sDrewth 00:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
This feature is once again working for me. Thank you Billinghurst for your time in checking this. Ghosts/gremlins in the machine? Humbug26 (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

us federal case law[edit]

im trying to find case federal case law dealing with bank robbery and indentification is there any filter I can use to narrow my search184.53.33.5 22:44, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Nope, and I doubt that there is much that is particularly there as the addition of criminal or individual cases of lower courts are unlikely to have been added. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:56, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Author Illustration[edit]

Hello. How do I get rid of the image on this author page Author:John Doughty and also the sister project links. The image and links are for a different John Doughty than the author. Jpez (talk) 08:25, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

I undid that connection at Wikidata.
And created a new one. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 11:27, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Jpez (talk) 12:59, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

pasting missing pages into Index:Narratives of the mission of George Bogle to Tibet.djvu[edit]


I uploaded the book in the subj to Wikimedia, to find that both copies from have missing pages. I wrote about my problem in Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help/Archives/2015#Trouble with changing from one scan to another and got a valuable lead:

missing pages can be extracted from copies at Digital Library of India: 1, 2. Hrishikes (talk) 12:39, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Since then, user:ShakespeareFan00 found duplicate pages. However, it seems I am missing the required software and experience to fix this problem with the use of Digital Library of India files. Please help. TIA, Tar-ba-gan (talk) 21:01, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

One of the IA copies originated from a Google Books scan. Whenever one of those are "bad", it's best to go back and find the original Google Books version to see if that has the defects or if they were introduced later by the IA conversion process. In this case; is this copy any more complete and/or without duplicates? If so, you can download it from Google Books and upload it anew on IA for a fresh conversion to .DjVu -- George Orwell III (talk) 00:29, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh. Thanks. This is how one finds out Google books are fully accessible if you use proxies. I had thought they were removed from laymen's free access globally. --Tar-ba-gan (talk) 00:06, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

technical glitch in Index:1917 Dubliners by James Joyce.djvu[edit]

Pages 99 and 102 are red color, but they were proofread. --Outlier59 (talk) 20:02, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Happening with works I am proofreading as well. Red at the Index, yellow at the Page. I have been ignoring it, but curious about the glitch. Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
It also shows red on the proofreading status in namespace Dubliners/A Little Cloud --Outlier59 (talk) 20:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
This happens from time to time, and isn't limited to this work. Wait a few days, make a dummy edit, and all will be corrected. . . unless there is yet another problem in some software change that's been pushed through, as sometimes happens. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:56, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
Null edit the page: ns pages, and it will flow through to the index: page. Not sure why it is happening, and I have seen it on occasions, but not been able to reliably reproduce the beast. Next month after validation month when I am back on fresh edits, rather than last step proofing I may trip over the correct sequence to failure. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:56, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Dotted toc help[edit]

I don't usually work with the dotted TOC page listing template, so I am not sure why alignment is acting squirrely here. Thanks, Londonjackbooks (talk) 11:52, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

My (biased) comment is don't. It is hard to problem solve and doesn't play well in all epubs, or mobile view, however, many persist with it. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:53, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Okay. I'll convert it. Thanks! Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:57, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

An old translation missing chapter numbering[edit]

Hello! I am in need of advice. There is this book originally by a Russian author, and its translation Index:Oblomov (1915 English translation).djvu misses chapter numbers. I. e. original (Russian) Part I has 11 chapters, and translated (English) Part I has 5 chapters (actually chapters 5 to 11 of the original make up a lengthy Chapter 5 of the translation).

This would not have bothered me much, where it not for a specific chapter in the book, Chapter 9, that is, for certain reasons, paid special attention in Russian curriculum (other than that, the novel is enormous for its concise plot, and hardly any other part has to be read in full; people in a World Literature dept may rather dwell on a newer translation altogether)

So I am wondering how valid may the idea be, to break up Chapter 5 into proper Chapters 5-11 as in the original edition (with separate pages for them).

TIA, Tar-ba-gan (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Army Board for Correction of Military Records[edit]

Is a case file about a deceased soldier a valid uploads I don't have the file in question, but another, even less-experienced than I, editor on Wikipedia does.

The subject is w:Garlin Murl Conner.

Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk 19:50, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

@Gaarmyvet: This is not a simple yes/no answer. The guidance is Wikisource:What Wikisource includes. It would help to know the specific record in question to give a specific answer, for a general question, it can only be a general answer. To the detail ...
  • Image files generally take place at Commons, if possible, as that is the preferred repository for files so they can be used cross-wiki. Their scope is educational, and copyright, and file type.
  • If it fails for upload there, then we can take an upload here if it meets our guidance for inclusion and copyright.
  • We do take historical records here, though our scope is that the person is notable at a wikipedia, or they are an author at this site. As this is a person at enWP that would generally be suitable, though provisos follow.
  • We don't take excerpts, so the record would need to be complete.
So my questions
  • For which country is the record? Is it in the public domain? [Presuming USA, then the answers to these are yes]
  • What format would the file of the document record?
  • Is the case file complete? Is it one document or a series of documents?
My guess is that we are talking document(s) that fall under WikiProject NARA and that being the case we would call upon @Dominic: our expert in those records to assist. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:13, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


(moving question, from user talk page, that is better addressed to the community)

I have just found an interesting article on famous castrato singer Farinelli in The Westminster Magazine of 1777. I have proofread the text against the scan linked. I do know how to create a new page here and where most appropriately place this page. So I have now included this page in my personal area only. Check this link please. As you will see, I have included some links. Actually I wanted to link to the appropriate wikipedia entry, but obviously the links here work differently. Secondly, it seems I have done something wrong when inserting the header that was suggested when I just keyed in the plain text. Now it looks like a graphic. I would be grateful if you could advise me on this and also on how to include the engraving of the two singers Farinelli and Senesino that I have uploaded also on wikimedia. Thanks for your help.

In connection with that, I wish to ask if the English wikisource, just as the German counterpart, also collects link lists to digital versions available on different websites (Google Books, hathitrust, or individual libraries) for individual volumes of encyclopedias or journals, e.g. for The Westminster Magazine. I find that very useful since the libraries usually only link what is available digitally either with them directly or - in Germany eg. with the Munich State Library, which, however, is not the most comprehensive resource. --Haendelfan (talk) 03:46, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Maybe you can also help with the two unclear readings (first of the amount of money Farinelli earned (very unclear in the scan and for me unfamiliar what it might mean) and with whom Jupiter is linked in the text (I read lö which is absolutely no English and does not ring a bell with me. Or you can help me as to where to post such questions for community help.--Haendelfan (talk) 04:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
  1. "Jupiter and Io" (it has its own entry on enWP) is a painting by Correggio.
  2. I checked the scan referenced (which uses lower-case trailing "l"; not "£" as transcribed) and bearing in mind a couple of paragraphs later the King of Spain awarded Farinelli "a pension of 1400 piastres, or 3150 l. per ann. and a coach and"… I would expect the damaged ("50.o l.") value to have originally read "5000 l." (This was a recognised period alternate form to use of a leading "£": both being obscurely derived from the initial letter of the Roman pound or "Libra.")
  3. I would recommend uploading at the very least the PDF at Google Books containing raw page scans to Commons before proceeding too much further unless of course it or an equivalent is already there. Once that is done an Index: page may be created locally. AuFCL (talk) 12:00, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your replies and help in the reading of the two unclear references. In bearing in mind that texts should also be understandable today, is it common then to indicate that the l stands for pounds? Since for the time being there are not any more articles from the Westminster Magazine, I assume I let the article rest fro some time. I was wondering whether it would be fair to create a page for Farinelli and collect there papers on him as different as the sources may be in the end. The same could then be done for Senesino, a similarly well-known castrato singer in London through his collaboration with Handel, on whom there is an article two pages before the Farinelli article discussed here.--Haendelfan (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
PS: If someone of you could have a look at the page in its present state? Something seems to have gone wrong with the title template. I copied it, but it would then only show as picture. Now that I keyed in everything again by hand, only half of it has been understood, the other half has not. I would appreciate it if someone could fix it. Maybe also there is something like a "board of contributors" especially for Music? They might know best how to proceed or where to put stories on indivual singers. Thanks. And sorry for taking your time. It is my first contribution of a raw text.--Haendelfan (talk) 17:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I am sure you will want to modify it further but I have changed the header on your page enough for it to become functional again (and also removed a duplicate as well.)

With regards the £/l. question, my personal preference would be not to annotate it on the reasoning that the sort of reader who is interested in a 1777 work would be aware of the convention, and if not their own curiosity ought to shortly rectify the situation. I expect others will disagree.

Finally a question for yourself: "Benutzer:"? Did you not mean "User:"? You might consider moving the page. AuFCL (talk) 21:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@AuFCL Thank you very much for your help in amending the page. Actually I now consider it ready and have posted it to Anecdotes on Farinelli (from ''The Westminster Magazine'' 1777). For the moment I will leave the comment on the l for £, since I also assume that the English source page will not only be used by English natives and those who are familiar with 17th- or 18th-century abbreviations or different spellings. (For instance I would also suggest to include comments if the spelling or a word or a name is very much different from the "usual" one, i.e. the one today preferred.--Haendelfan (talk) 22:26, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
@all who contributed to this discussion: Thank you very much for your welcome here and your comments. I have now opened a page Singers in baroque opera which I plan as a collecting page for works on all singers that may be going to be published here. In this page only the names of the singers are intended to be mentioned / listed - leading the reader to another head-page on each of the singers that are going to be included. In the case of Farinelli this is the page of the same name Farinelli. Since it is his stage name, but the more well-known (or only known one), his native name is only mentioned in brackets. The Farinelli page then includes the Anecdotes on Farinelli (from ''The Westminster Magazine'' 1777), the first and hitherto only source in this collection of pages. Still I hope, my "plan" for head-pages, similar to the categories in wiki-commons, finds your approval and/or the approval of those particularly dedicated to work in music. Of course the singer's name pages like Farinelli or Senesino can also be included in a general head-page collecting pages on singers, if such exists. And finally: if later more articles from "The Westminster Magazine" are going to be included in wikisource, the article Anecdotes on Farinelli (from ''The Westminster Magazine'' 1777) can be included in the appropriate headpage also. For the moment, it might be too early for that, since only two pages in one volume of the magazine are included in wikisource. One last word: please consider I am German and English is only a second language for me, so if there are mistakes in my English, I kindly ask you to tolerate them - and to correct them if such should be included in comments. Thank you.--Haendelfan (talk) 22:23, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Singers in baroque opera should be a Portal, see Help:Portals.— Mpaa (talk) 23:03, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Summaries[edit]

To Whom It May Concern,

How do I find and access the Table of Contents to WikiSummaries?

I was reading in the External Links of the Wikipedia article, "The Prophet," [A book written by Kahlil Gibran] and on the last entry listed was a reference to, "WikiSummaries." I an unable to find any listing or reference to, "WikiSummaries," in the Home Page or the left-hand side of the Home Page, at the bottom of the Home Page, or at the bottom of where the, "," URL leads to (where there is a listing for the Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikisources, etc.).

Thank you, in advance for any assistance on this manner.



Well, that was quick! Thank you, who ever you are for the help. Maybe I should also ask why, "WikiSummaries is not listed at the bottom of the URL, "" page with all of the other wonderful resources available at, or associated with Wikipedia?!


S.M.A. is not a WikiMedia project; it is not affiliated with Wikipedia or Wikisource, and that is why it is not listed with WikiMedia's projects. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 14:22, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

missing page image[edit]

This page has the text layer, but is missing the image in both read and edit views. Cleared all caches but to no avail. Can someone please look at it? Thanks.— Ineuw talk 20:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Works for we, with no action ... If you make a null edit? No effect?— Mpaa (talk) 23:03, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
It now works for me as well. Thanks — Ineuw talk 02:33, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Montazur Rahman Akbar[edit]

i want to add something details about Montazur Rahman Akbar .

What books or articles has he written in English? --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:27, 21 November 2015 (UTC)