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{{helpme}} Hello,

I've been working on proofreading Index:Lancashire Legends, Traditions, Pageants, Sports, Etc., with an Appendix Containing a Rare Tract.djvu and have found that it requires some repairs, but I do not know how to go about fixing them.

The issues I have noticed are: There are four damaged pages, xiii, 90, 91, and 92. The index is also missing two pages, 282 and 283.

I have located an alternate copy of the book on The Internet Archive ( and it contains good copies of the damaged pages as well as the two missing pages.

Is it possible someone can replace the damaged pages and add the two missing pages from the alternate source? (Sp1nd01 (talk) 20:15, 6 March 2017 (UTC))

Looking at the work, it seems that the alternate IA version that you linked looks to be a superior quality work, especially the illustrations. Gut feel on the way to progress is that it may be better to upload the new version, then get a bot (with admin rights) to transfer the pages transcribed from one to the other. It will take a little longer, though probably a better quality product, and probably less fiddly than trying to insert and move pages. @Mpaa: what do you think? — billinghurst sDrewth 22:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I had a quick look and it seems there is a constant +1 page shift in the linked file. Pls double-check and, if it is confirmed, all we need to to is shift pages by one. Too bad the new file is pdf and not djvu, so I do not think we can reuse the same file/index page.— Mpaa (talk) 20:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

{{helpme}} I have noticed by checking some of my diff pages that occasionally there are minor updates being made to some of my proofread pages, almost as if I had left a double space or some other hidden character in the page.

I always do a page preview before saving a page and occasionally I do see lines broken, which I correct by deleting whatever the hidden character is until the page preview looks fine.

An example of this can be seen on the following page I have recently proofed:

Where in the block quote at the bottom of the page all appears fine to me, but when I look at the whole article using page:

I see the line is broken in between the words "and such" in the following line:

"there are so many and such conflicting opinions, that it is not wonderful that the spirits, whose nature is thus left so wholly"

I'd be interested to know if there is anything I can configure to clear this problem or make it easier to spot? I edit using Firefox 54.0.1 (64 Bit) I previously used the 32 bit version where I first noticed the problem, but recently updated to the 64 bit to see if that would help. I've also tried clearing the page cache but it doesn't help. Do any other editors experience this type of problem? (Sp1nd01 (talk) 09:34, 11 July 2017 (UTC))

Page:Mrs Beeton's Book of Household Management.djvu/259[edit]

Recheck, patched the illegibles using an identical edition. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh and thanks for validating, Just be careful to check for every lower case 'j' ... ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:12, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the check and repair of that page.

A bit of a mute question now as the page has already been validated by another person, but for my future reference, would I be expected to check the page again, or is it preferred that another reader does the recheck so that we get another set of eyes viewing the page? Sp1nd01 (talk) 20:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Feel free to re-read as many times as you find something that got missed. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:40, 19 March 2017 (UTC)



BTW Once you've validated once, I would suggest giving a page a second read-through after a few weeks away, to be absolutely certain. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:52, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

You might also want to look at the typoscan script someone mentioned in a Scriptourm thread recently. I've also got a list of Typo words I've found in reviewing some of my proof-reading efforts. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:52, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

span and div templates[edit]

To note that if using {{block center}} that it is a <div> template, so when you are pairing with a <span> template like {{smaller}} that the DIV (block) templates need to be outside of the SPAN templates (html hierarchy!) Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, I must admit that am not very familiar with html at all, and the terms DIV and SPAN are new to me, but I think I see what I have been doing wrong. Please let me know if there are other issues I am not handling correctly. Sp1nd01 (talk) 09:42, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, not my favourite. The hierarchy is SPAN (span) << PARAGRAPH (p) << DIVISION (div). So equate it with a split of sentence / paragraph / page and then think. So you cannot centre a sentence within a paragraph, so you when we centre it is with a paragraph or a division; whereas if we make something italics, it could be any of the three. So we need to nest (open and close a span) within element types. I hope that is somewhat explanatory. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:53, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Footnotes within footnotes[edit]

One example of how you can handle references within footnotes, as well as when they span more than one page, etc. can be found at this Index talk page. There is also Help:Footnotes and endnotes. I realize you might already have a method in mind, and may simply be saving those pages for later... P.S. The poetry formatting might make things confusing. If so, I apologize. Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the pointers! I had no idea how to approach that issue, it really had me stumped! I have attempted to format it using the example provided from the Byron link, but its not quite working out for me, as it doesn't reflect the page layout quite as I expected, so I have left it marked as problematic to see if anyone is able to do a better job. Sp1nd01 (talk) 23:18, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hi Thank you very much for proof reading, validating and correcting Reflections on the Motive Power of Heat

Cheers from Australia.


Can you take another look at some of the pages that you identifed problems on (or skipped). I had a cleanup of some of them a month ago and would like a re-check on them.

Thanks. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


I have found a missing page in Index:Jardine Naturalist's library Bees.djvu

The Contents list should contain three pages, however the third page is missing, (as well as the following blank page.)

Would somebody be able to add the two missing pages after Page:Jardine Naturalist's library Bees.djvu/18, or advise if and how I can do it?

The missing pages can be found in an alternate copy of the book at

Although the book is dated later, I have checked the pages and apart from the placements of the Plates the pages do match the original book. Thanks Sp1nd01 (talk) 09:16, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Probably best to add this request to the appropriate section on WS:Sbillinghurst sDrewth 13:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, I've created a post for it as requested, I hope its in the correct section. Sp1nd01 (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Beeton (2) =[edit]

Thanks for validating.. I'm at the moment planning on re-examining some of the as of yet unvalidated pages as I'm finding many many concerns on review of these, I should be able to stay ahead of your validation efforts. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification, I am only managing to check a small number of pages each day, so I doubt we should bump into each other too often. Sp1nd01 (talk) 11:29, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Index:Cassell's Illustrated History of England vol 1.djvu[edit]

As you've been able to spot typos in Beeton that I missed on at least 2 passes, I was wondering if you would be willing to consider adding this to your list of works under review. (Ignore the nominal validation status), so that it can be as perfect as wiki-markup allows. Also I have a strong view in places it might need to be tweaked due to the parser changes which are coming soon.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:23, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

And after Volume 1 there are Voulmes 2,3,4 to be examined :( (sigh). ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:23, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I can add it to my list and try and check a page or so a day. Sp1nd01 (talk) 07:30, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Leaves of Knowledge[edit]

Hi, it's been nice to work in parallel on Leaves of Knowledge -- I appreciate your proofreading/validating efforts. Just wanted to let you know I finished up the chapter pages, and posted this on "new texts" on the front page today. -Pete (talk) 23:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Your welcome, and thank you for applying the finishing touches along with the status update! Sp1nd01 (talk) 16:44, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Beeton Images.[edit]

I note that someone else had uploaded some images under a different naming structure previously, Will you be examining those and updating , re-naming images accordingly?

BTW - Page:Mrs_Beeton's_Book_of_Household_Management.djvu/172 needs it's plate upload as does Page:Mrs_Beeton's_Book_of_Household_Management.djvu/1403. I've not listed images past this as I know you were uploading them as you progressed through the validations.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:28, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

I'd held off those two plates for a while because I was trying to obtain better a quality scan of them.
I found the missing text of the second plate in the raw image scan at the original source and have uploaded it now, however the first plate is damaged also in the raw scan and I havn't been able to locate a better image anywhere else. I can go ahead and upload it as is if you like, and it can be updated if anyone finds a better one in the future.
Re: renaming of files, I don't think that is something I have the authority to do. It seems to rely on placing a request for a file to be renamed, and then it has to be assessed by the admins. Maybe we would have to compile a list of files to be renamed before we could request that? Sp1nd01 (talk) 08:32, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, or given that yours have a different lead name, just update the transcription here to use your uploaded scans at higher quality :) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:42, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Not an immediate priority but...[edit]

Index:UKSI19810859.pdf - Someone needs to make the image presentation on this Sane, and bring it up to the expected standards, there are a LOT of missing images though.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 23:30, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

I've taken a look but I think that creating those type of images is well above my current skill level. Sorry. Sp1nd01 (talk) 19:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Tableaux Vivans[edit]

Thank you tremendously for adding a table to Once a Week, Volume II. Tables are something I haven't studied at all yet. The "Tableaux Vivans" table is perfect; I just adjusted the top and bottom margin and the font size of the caption. Levana Taylor (talk) 23:31, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

Ancient Stone Implements[edit]

Just wanted to thank you for all the images you added for Ancient Stone Implements. Mike s (talk) 16:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Bench and Bar of Colorado.[edit]


I will note the table layout may also need updating - to resolve the LintErrors. If you want to do this while adding images feel free. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I've uploaded a few images, and copied the table changes, so hopefully they are now appearing as expected? I don't know what a LintError is or how to check for one, so if you could give it a check over for me, and if ok I'll carry on. Thanks Sp1nd01 (talk) 11:03, 4 July 2019 (UTC)


As you seem to know what you are doing with images, any chance of queuing this one in your lists?

Some of the illustrations were previously uploaded to Commons, see the link on the index page.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:25, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

I'll give them a go, note that I don't know how to create images with transparent backgrounds as the previous uploader did, so mine will just be plain white backgrounds. The layouts I add may also need adjusting to your preference, so keep a watch for them them. Sp1nd01 (talk) 10:43, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights Survey[edit]

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Index:Coloured Figures of English Fungi or Mushrooms.djvu[edit]

Can you take a second look at this ? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

See also - Wikisource:Scriptorium#Index:Coloured_Figures_of_English_Fungi_or_Mushrooms.djvu ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
I'm not confident about taking on those images, and I doubt I could improve them, my colour editing knowledge is very basic, I've been unable to remove the foxing from the pages, I've had a few attempt over the day but got nowhere with them. You may be better trying to recruit an image expert to tackle those. Sp1nd01 (talk) 21:50, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Index:Ferns and Evergreens New England.djvu[edit]

Simple image insertion task, and validation? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:32, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

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Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

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