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English Wikisource's monthly newsletter; Wikisource:News, which seeks to inform all about Wikimedia's multilingual Wikisource.
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English Wikisource's monthly newsletter; Wikisource:News, which seeks to inform all about Wikimedia's multilingual Wikisource.
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–MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 02:03, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Do feel free to have a WikiProject[edit]
Hi. Welcome. Do feel that anything that you are doing in that coordination space is able to be in the Wikisource:WikiProjects space. It has a broad scope to cover any sort of coordinated transcription or organisational aspects. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:05, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- Alright I'll move it. I was sorta worried that it wasn't ready in some way. Thank you for the help.MJL (talk) 02:09, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Category:Politics of the United States/Carl Schurz[edit]
We don't create category subdirectories like that. Nor do we categorize by author.
Author pages are used to list works according to author. Or, if a set of pages are about that author, we have a section of the Author page set aside for that. If the person who is a subject is not an author, and won't have an Author page, then we use a Portal.
Our policy is to delete categories that group by author, since they are not needed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:21, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- What are the alternatives to this category? Should it go in a portal? Without it, Category:Politics of the United States gets flooded with more than 150 articles that really should be grouped together. Any suggestions to alleviate that to help readers find more diverse articles? Thank you. MJL (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
- We don't worry about "flooding" categories. As I said, we list articles on Author pages and Portals as an organized way to present complex topics. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
[edit]
You moved this text out of the footer [1], which will cause the word to be duplicated. The word was in the footer because older texts would often duplicate the first word of the next page at the bottom of the preceding page, to make oral presentation easier.
That word should remain in the footer. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
- @EncycloPetey: Thank you for fixing that embarrassing error on my part. I'm still trying to get the hang of a lot of things. I really appreciate the help a lot; I just have a lot to learn. MJL (talk) 03:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
US legislation...[edit]
I was sure English Wikisource had a set of templates for these to add "anchor"s and indentation for these. I would suggest asking on the Scriptorum. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:43, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
WS:WPV assitance[edit]
Would you mind helping to validate this work? The assistance of the WikiProject has been requested, and you are as of current the only other participant. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 11:08, 12 October 2018 (UTC).
- @TE(æ)A,ea.: My apologies for not helping before. I am not back to being active on the project! ―MJL -Talk-☖ 19:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Mistake[edit]
Hi,
I do apologize, I wanted to adjust letter spacing at Page:Bohemia An Historical Sketch.djvu/6 and by mistake I edited an old version of the page and thus the validation was removed. Can you validate it again, please?
Thank you very much!
--Jan Kameníček (talk) 08:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
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1000th Edit[edit]
Nice! (link) –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:38, 18 March 2019 (UTC) 1,200 now... –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
User:MJL[edit]
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| First edit | 2017-06-11 23:07 |
| Latest edit | 2019-03-21 15:02 |
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All times are in UTC. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 15:08, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Ligatures[edit]
Hi, we decided a few years back not to reproduce the typographical ligatures such as the "ct". They add no value and break searches. The other main two that people try to reproduce are "fi" and "fl". Which means that the only two still accepted are æ and œ. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:48, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Beeswaxcandle: Oh dang. That's certainly noted, so I will revert that edit now. THank you for informing me of this! Cheers, –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:06, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
User:MJL/UN header[edit]
While it's fine to create User space tools to make edits easier, links to user-space working materials should not be left in pages once they have been proofread. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:26, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- @EncycloPetey: Thank you for the notice. Is the solution to substitute it or move it to template-space? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Either solution would be fine. Subst'ing is preferred unless the same header construction is to be used across a large number of works. If the formatting is unique to only a few pages of a single document, then creating a permanent template would not be worthwhile. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Done –User link[edit]
My two cents is that it is better to leave {{ul}} pointing to {{underline}}, because the community has little need for Template:User link. We've functioned for more than a decade without it. Having a two-letter shortcut for a template that is practically unused in this community doesn't seem worthwhile. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:46, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- @EncycloPetey: I just would like an alternative to {{Reply to}} for pinging users in the middle of a sentence. I don't like the "@" and ":" appearing there, and there is no way to suppress it. I also think the one-letter {{u}} is more than sufficient for {{underline}}. I can't imagine why a shortcut only used 10 times on this platform ({{ul}}) is really needed in that regard. We have {{re}} and that's been used a total of 59 times. {{ping}} was used 873 times. I'm not even going to try and count how many total times {{Reply to}} was used. It's up there. In case you are concerned this, I will also assure you that this is not about making us more like Wikipedia. If that was the case, I'd be arguing to make {{u}} point to {{user link}} like it does there. I understand {{underline}} is more valuable than {{user link}} for our purposes (we use it a lot). I just don't think it should monopolize the secondary shortcut that it doesn't even list in it's own documentation. To each their own, I guess. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:51, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
- If you feel otherwise, I will respect that
and nominate {{UL}} for deletion myself. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:52, 27 March 2019 (UTC)- I have no opinion about keeping or deleting the template; I merely see little point in having it. I see much less of a need to re-dedicate redirects for a template that has (thus far) been used by a single individual. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
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Wikisource:News: April 2019 Edition[edit]
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Works categories aren't done here[edit]
Hi, Please stop the Caledonian poetry category. We don't do categories for works. See Help:Categorization for more. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:03, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Beeswaxcandle:, I swear everytime I think I understand the categorization system... Let me fix that. Just so I am clear, the right categories to add for these works are Category:Early modern poetry, Category:Scots poems, and Category:PD-old, correct? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:06, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- You don't need to add Category:PD-old. That will be added automatically by the license template, and the license template should only be placed on the primary page of a work. "Scots poems" should be added only if the work is a poem written in the Scots language. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- A good rule of thumb for adding categories: add a category for the:
- (a) form (novel, poem, speech, play) or a form subcategory (historical novel, love poetry),
- (b) period (modern, renaissance) or form/period category (Renaissance poetry, Modern fiction)
- (c) language or language subcategory (Greek literature, English poetry, works originally in French)
- (d) topic of a non-fiction work, or genre of a fictional work
- Nearly all categories on Wikisource fall into one or more of these. Only a few categories do not (such as book awards). --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:25, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, so I just need to go back and remove all instances of the redlinked Category:The Merry Muses of Caledonia and replace it with Category:Early modern poetry and Category:Scots poems (the latter as applicable). I think I can do that! Let me know if I am being too much of a problem, Petey. I don't want to waste your (or anyone else's) time. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 03:31, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- A good rule of thumb for adding categories: add a category for the:
welcoming[edit]
On Wikisource, we usually do not subst the {{welcome}} template. That way, if changes made in the template, then the changes are propagated to all locations where the template was used. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- I was just following the documentation which allows for the use of {{subst:welcome}}. I personally prefer it, but if that is a rule then I will follow it. I just request you update the documentation, so other contributors aren't mistaken in the future. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 05:35, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's not a rule, but it is the norm. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:55, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Header templates[edit]
Category:Header templates is a subcategory of Category:Article templates, meaning that the category is only for templates used in articles, not other sorts of headers. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- @EncycloPetey: shouldn't we remove Template:Process header then? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 17:22, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- Probably. There is likely quite a lot to be cleaned up in these categories. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:26, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Notes on Czech Politics[edit]
Hi. May I ask where you saw the book Notes on Czech Politics, which you have mentioned at Author:Karel Kramář? I would be happy to transcribe it but I failed to find it anywhere. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:06, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, sorry, only now I noticed that you are suggesting to translate the Czech book... --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:08, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Jan Kameníček, why certainly! I found it while viewing cs:Poznámky o české politice. Czech Wikisource had in turn found this copy. If you would like to translate it (which I sort of expected you would haha), you'll probably want to follow our these proposed translation guidelines. Hope that helps! (ec) –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:16, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
2001st edit[edit]
Yay! –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 13:20, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
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- Thanks User:MJL for doing a wonderful job and bringing Wikisource:News back to life! Dovi (talk) 19:43, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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Missing /div[edit]
There was a </div> missing from the end of this. I've fixed it on that page, but please look at any other places where you posted it (like this one!), and avoid that in future. Cheers, Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:10, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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The file you've created is a duplicate[edit]
The file you've created is a duplicate of Index:Landon in The New Monthly 1837.pdf --kathleen wright5 (talk) 13:46, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Kathleen.wright5: Thank you for calling this to my attention. I can't remember creating this file, and I would like to point out that Special:Diff/7092393 and Special:Diff/7092240 show the same user created both index pages (maybe you already took care of this file? I'm not sure exactly because you didn't link to it, and I can't remember as said previously :/). I do see I created Page:New Monthly 1837.pdf/1, Page:New Monthly 1837.pdf/2, and Page:New Monthly 1837.pdf/3 while apparently not noticing the existence of Index:Landon in The New Monthly 1837.pdf. Would you be so kind as to redirect Index:New Monthly 1837.pdf to Index:Landon in The New Monthly 1837.pdf as well as its subpages? I'd also prefer Page:New Monthly 1837.pdf/3 have its history merged with Page:Landon in The New Monthly 1837.pdf/3 and be made the current revision, but we can discuss more about that later if you disagree. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, User:Esme Shepherd created both indexes. I've never done a merge of pages before, so instead I've asked her which index she would like deleted? Hoping of course that it will be Index:New Monthly 1837.pdf. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 11:18, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Kathleen.wright5: If that's the case, we could delete the frivolous index to Esme's choice, but I do want to repeat that I would prefer Page:New Monthly 1837.pdf/3 to be kept even as a redirect as my preference over Page:Landon in The New Monthly 1837.pdf/3. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 16:20, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, User:Esme Shepherd created both indexes. I've never done a merge of pages before, so instead I've asked her which index she would like deleted? Hoping of course that it will be Index:New Monthly 1837.pdf. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 11:18, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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Wikisource:News (en): July 2019 Edition[edit]
- On that last one... Please don't import enwp drama here. The Signpost is in hot water because what Smallbones wrote was a tabloid hit piece based on anonymous allegations (and fairly uncritically too), and it is problematic completely irrespective of whether Fram is guilty of the things they've been accused of or not. Bri's discussion report was neutrally written and addressed the wider constitutional issue at conflict between WMF and the communities, and is relevant on other projects (i.e. here). But Smallbones' lack of perspective only seems important because you're involved in The Signpost on enwp; and Fram hasn't edited on enws since 2010 so their behaviour (or lack of such) is completely irrelevant here. --Xover (talk) 06:23, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Xover: I had no intention of bringing over the drama from there to here (I genuinely prefer the fact we don't have drama for the most part). As I said in my statement to arbcom after WS:News was published, I fully agree to what Headbomb had to say on the matter (and personally, I wouldn't publish the story). Since generally, WS:News relies on the Signpost for most of its coverage of WMF related matters, I kind of thought this would be the rare time it need to publish a piece related to enwiki.
Unlike how the Signpost is run, WS:News related pages aren't supposed to be treated different than any other project pages. Anything that needs to be changed in the article, should be changed without issue. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 06:36, 5 July 2019 (UTC)- My point was that the details of Fram's case or the drama surrounding that The Signpost article are mostly enwp-internal matters, or "inside baseball" for those working on such publications. The bit that has cross-project significance is the new policies and practices at the WMF; the conflict between the WMF and the wider community; and what that will mean for enWS going forward. But all that is contained in the single sentence
You can read more about this subject in the Signpost's Discussion report.
. The rest of it is squarely focussed on the parts of the issue that are not relevant to enWS and which run the risk of importing their drama.My suggestion would have actually been to import Bri's discussion report wholesale: it is focussed on the wider issue, and it presents an overview of it that is dispassionate and neutral. Prefix or suffix it with a para or so that puts it into an enWS context ("What does this mean for enWS?". It's possible enWS would welcome such intervention from WMF/T&S due to the differences between enWS and enwp), but on the whole it's a good summary of the state of play. Which reminds me, I need to hop on over and give Bri kudos for it. By the way, since I'm ragging on you so much for this one article; let me make sure I say that I really appreciate the effort you put in reanimating Wikisource:News. I see it as important community building, and I definitely appreciate the amount of effort it takes to keep it going more or less single-handedly! Please don't mistake my concerns about this one article for antipathy or lack of appreciation for the overall effort! --Xover (talk) 07:58, 5 July 2019 (UTC)- @Xover: No worries! I really welcome the feedback.
Between you and me (and whoever reads this, I guess), one of the major reasons I didn't put out a newsletter last month was the dispute at EncycloPetey's admin confirmation as well as me feeling conflicted on how best to cover Dmitrismirnov's then-upcoming confirmation. I really don't like seeing drama here (this is actually my safeplace away from enwiki stuff because incivility and harassment aren't as common here- just thinking about some of the stuff I deal with editing enwiki kinda makes me tear up... I'm almost numb to it now..)
If you look at the page history, I started it on 1 July 2019, the added content on a day later then went silent. I figured that someone (like yourself) would object to it before publication if it was objectionable. It still isn't too late to swap out the article if you want (I seriously wouldn't be hurt by it if you did since it's so barebones anyways-- It's goal mostly to inform that our sister publication was going through a mess right now which could impact WMF coverage).
Thank you for the kind words, though! If you really feel like it's a worthwhile effort, please consider adding yourself as a subscriber. If WP:News gets more, I'll be able to request global mass messenger rights for myself and take this to an international readerbase (which was Dovi's original intention for it). –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 18:03, 5 July 2019 (UTC)- Yeah, my increased participation here is most definitely due to being fed up with the dysfunction over there. Not so much typical incivility and harassment, but confrontational, underhanded, and arrogant behaviours that are incredibly demoralising and tiring over time. I see we have our share of dysfunction here too, but it's more of the avoidance and hoping it'll go away variety, which leads to much less intense and less sustained drama. Oh well… No community is perfect, and enws is practically paradise compared to the post-apocalyptic wasteland that enwp resembles at times.I don't think it would be appropriate to alter the newsletter like that after it's been published. I just wanted to give you the feedback for the future (and, it must be admitted, I am a little touchy on this after the Smallbones article). I'd be happy to advise where I can, of course, but as my inclinations are in completely different directions I'll read the newsletter once published rather than watch it in draft. I'll certainly subscribe if it matters: I haven't done so because I see it at WS:S anyway, not because I'm not interested.I'm not sure I think the community(-ies) is large enough and with enough common interest that a newsletter is sustainable. On enws there's not really enough happening to fill a monthly newsletter, and if we can't get more volunteers… well, it's not sustainable if we're dependent on a single person. But I hope I'm wrong because I need a newsletter to keep updated, and because it can help build community (which The Signpost does admirably when it's at its best), and recruit and onboard new contributors. enWS is particularly prone to contributors working off in their own little walled gardens with little or no innteraction with others. I was frankly shocked when I noticed the total number of edits and editors, compared to the five or so names that ever contribute to the noticeboards and Scriptorium. Anything that could bring those closer together would make us stronger as a community. --Xover (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Xover: Wait, how many active editors do we have outside of the noticeboards?? I thought we only have like 10 active editors. :? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:38, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- Nope. It depends on what your definition is, but using Mediawiki's definition, all 327 of these users have performed an action in the last 30 days. If you watch Special:RecentChanges you'll also see a lot of activity from editors that never or only rarely show up on the community pages. Meanwhile, I'm tearing my hair out over the lack of participation on the Scriptorium, Proposed deletions, etc.. I don't think I agree with Kaldari's curly quotes proposal (haven't had time to think through it yet), but I'm really glad they made it: it's something that should be discussed every now and again, and it seems to be drawing out some extra participation. Not least because a vibrant and active community is the best way to recruit more new contributors. --Xover (talk) 08:12, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Xover: Wait, how many active editors do we have outside of the noticeboards?? I thought we only have like 10 active editors. :? –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 21:38, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, my increased participation here is most definitely due to being fed up with the dysfunction over there. Not so much typical incivility and harassment, but confrontational, underhanded, and arrogant behaviours that are incredibly demoralising and tiring over time. I see we have our share of dysfunction here too, but it's more of the avoidance and hoping it'll go away variety, which leads to much less intense and less sustained drama. Oh well… No community is perfect, and enws is practically paradise compared to the post-apocalyptic wasteland that enwp resembles at times.I don't think it would be appropriate to alter the newsletter like that after it's been published. I just wanted to give you the feedback for the future (and, it must be admitted, I am a little touchy on this after the Smallbones article). I'd be happy to advise where I can, of course, but as my inclinations are in completely different directions I'll read the newsletter once published rather than watch it in draft. I'll certainly subscribe if it matters: I haven't done so because I see it at WS:S anyway, not because I'm not interested.I'm not sure I think the community(-ies) is large enough and with enough common interest that a newsletter is sustainable. On enws there's not really enough happening to fill a monthly newsletter, and if we can't get more volunteers… well, it's not sustainable if we're dependent on a single person. But I hope I'm wrong because I need a newsletter to keep updated, and because it can help build community (which The Signpost does admirably when it's at its best), and recruit and onboard new contributors. enWS is particularly prone to contributors working off in their own little walled gardens with little or no innteraction with others. I was frankly shocked when I noticed the total number of edits and editors, compared to the five or so names that ever contribute to the noticeboards and Scriptorium. Anything that could bring those closer together would make us stronger as a community. --Xover (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Xover: No worries! I really welcome the feedback.
- My point was that the details of Fram's case or the drama surrounding that The Signpost article are mostly enwp-internal matters, or "inside baseball" for those working on such publications. The bit that has cross-project significance is the new policies and practices at the WMF; the conflict between the WMF and the wider community; and what that will mean for enWS going forward. But all that is contained in the single sentence
- @Xover: I had no intention of bringing over the drama from there to here (I genuinely prefer the fact we don't have drama for the most part). As I said in my statement to arbcom after WS:News was published, I fully agree to what Headbomb had to say on the matter (and personally, I wouldn't publish the story). Since generally, WS:News relies on the Signpost for most of its coverage of WMF related matters, I kind of thought this would be the rare time it need to publish a piece related to enwiki.
- thanks for the newsletter. if you go by the metrics we have 140 active editors (>5 per month) [2] i should have some notes from wikisource track at wikimania, for next month. with some video links. Slowking4 ⚔ Rama's revenge 10:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Slowking4: Sorry for the late reply, I was deliberately holding off on doing so until some.. drama on enwiki subsided. Do let me know! I'm getting this edition's draft start for publication 1 September 2019. I'd love for you to write a story or something to be included!! :D –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 00:52, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- ha, if you wait for drama to subside, you will not get anything done. here is the list of links User_talk:Slowking4#Wikisource_track , i could fill in more narrative, search commons, but i will be buried at national book festival tomorrow. may be next week. cheers. Slowking4 ⚔ Rama's revenge 01:09, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
- @Slowking4: Sorry for the late reply, I was deliberately holding off on doing so until some.. drama on enwiki subsided. Do let me know! I'm getting this edition's draft start for publication 1 September 2019. I'd love for you to write a story or something to be included!! :D –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 00:52, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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- In the media: Politics starts getting rough
- Discussion report: New proposals in aftermath of Fram ban
- Arbitration report: A month of reintegration
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
- Community view: Video based summaries of Wikipedia articles. How and why?
- News from the WMF: Designing ethically with AI: How Wikimedia can harness machine learning in a responsible and human-centered way
- Recent research: Most influential medical journals; detecting pages to protect
- Special report: Administrator cadre continues to contract
- Traffic report: World cups, presidential candidates, and stranger things
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- News and notes: Documenting Wikimania and our beginnings
- In focus: Ryan Merkley joins WMF as Chief of Staff
- Discussion report: Meta proposals on partial bans and IP users
- Traffic report: Once upon a time in Greenland with Boris and cornflakes
- News from the WMF: Meet Emna Mizouni, the newly minted 2019 Wikimedian of the Year
- Recent research: Special issue on gender gap and gender bias research
- On the bright side: What's making you happy this month?
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- Hi, MJL! In the admin confirmations secton of the newsletter, you (?) write that Zhaladshar has had activity in the multilingual Wikisource this year. However, the diff points to an edit made by Zyephyrus, not Zhaladshar, and I can't see anything suggesting that the two are the same user. It seems Zhaladshar hasn't had any edits in the multilingual Wikisource for 10+ years. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 06:35, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Jon Harald Søby: Yikes! I should have double checked that one. Retracting that now. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 06:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hi! In the next Wikisource News, you should mention something about the Neapolitan and Hindi Wikisources being created, in August and September respectively. I tried writing up something, but I'm not sure what more to add, so I'll leave it to you how it can be covered. :-) Jon Harald Søby (talk) 08:24, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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"Jahrhundert" is a valid word, "Jahrkundert" is not; marking "Proofread" page as "Not proofread"[edit]
Hi, I saw your edit on Page:EB1911 - Volume 03.djvu/485, is there a reason why you substituted the valid German word "Jahrhundert" for the incorrect "Jahrkundert"? A simple Google search would reveal the former is the German word for a century (100 years). There are more than 67 million Google hits for "Jahrhundert" and less than 1200 for the incorrect "Jahrkundert" you used. You can see a high-resolution image of the page in question at [3] which clearly shows "Jahrhundert". I've now edited the page to fix it.
Also, why did you mark the previously Proofread Page:EB1911 - Volume 12.djvu/917 as Not proofread? Why did you remove line-breaks? Removing line-breaks makes proofing much more difficult, so can you please not remove them in future. It also makes it difficult to see what changes you made to that page. It appears you just changed a section tag on the page, why? — DivermanAU (talk) 21:24, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DivermanAU: The page itself uses the incorrect "Jahrkundert" which is why I changed it. The image you link to is from another copy of the text without that typo, so it doesn't really carry any weight with what our text says. I suggest you change it back and simply use {{SIC}} to convey the intended meaning.
As for your second question, I have no honest clue why I made that specific edit 7 months ago. I was new and clueless.
I will say though, that the line breaks may be helpful for you; I find it rather irritating during the transclusion process and remove them for texts I'm transcluding. That's what I was trying to do with 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Hamilton (Scotland) at least. I still find line breaks to be annoying, and I don't plan on keeping them for texts I am personally proofreading. However, I will respect line breaks where they are already found in the future such as pages you may contribute to. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 04:49, 26 November 2019 (UTC)- Hi MJL, thanks for your response. I took another look at Page:EB1911 - Volume 03.djvu/485 — it definitely looks like there are two "h"s in "Jahrhundert" in the Wikisource scan to me. Both "h"s have a clear gap between the two uprights. Compare to a real italic "k" e.g. in "blockade" on Page:EB1911 - Volume 04.djvu/86 (2nd-last paragraph, left column) the italic "k" has a definite closed loop and 45° angled stroke down from the upright; compare to the italic "h" in "the" in the same paragraph which has a gap between the uprights. DivermanAU (talk) 06:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DivermanAU: Alright, I took a second look at it by zooming in on this, and I guess my eyes were playing tricks on me.
My apologies about that. :/ –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 23:38, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
- @DivermanAU: Alright, I took a second look at it by zooming in on this, and I guess my eyes were playing tricks on me.
- Hi MJL, thanks for your response. I took another look at Page:EB1911 - Volume 03.djvu/485 — it definitely looks like there are two "h"s in "Jahrhundert" in the Wikisource scan to me. Both "h"s have a clear gap between the two uprights. Compare to a real italic "k" e.g. in "blockade" on Page:EB1911 - Volume 04.djvu/86 (2nd-last paragraph, left column) the italic "k" has a definite closed loop and 45° angled stroke down from the upright; compare to the italic "h" in "the" in the same paragraph which has a gap between the uprights. DivermanAU (talk) 06:41, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks..
There are also a LOT of Scottish "chapbooks" that you might be interested in , Apparently the National Library of Scotland, decided to use Wikisource as means of getting some of them transcribed. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:47, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
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